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Sexism in advertising......

  • 16-02-2012 09:49AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0215/ryanair.html

    I don't if anyone saw this story but basically Ryanair have had to pull one of their ads because there were lots of complaints to the affect that it was sexist and offensive to women.

    Do you agree that women are objectified or are some of us just overly sensitive and/or feministic?

    I personally think that this was something of an over-reaction. We all know that sex sells and there is never any problem with objectiying men in the media e.g. in Calvin Klein underwear ads or ads for mens scents yet when women are portrayed in a sexual manner there is uproar.

    I remember those Hunky Dory ads where the models were supposed to be rugby players but looked more like underwear models and not once did I, as a woman, feel offended or objectified.

    But that's just me.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0215/ryanair.html

    I don't if anyone saw this story but basically Ryanair have had to pull one of their ads because there were lots of complaints to the affect that it was sexist and offensive to women.

    Do you agree that women are objectified or are some of us just overly sensitive and/or feministic?

    I personally think that this was something of an over-reaction. We all know that sex sells and there is never any problem with objectiying men in the media e.g. in Calvin Klein underwear ads or ads for mens scents yet when women are portrayed in a sexual manner there is uproar.

    I remember those Hunky Dory ads where the models were supposed to be rugby players but looked more like underwear models and not once did I, as a woman, feel offended or objectified.

    But that's just me.

    funny how the diet coke ads featuring men stripping to the waist on a "diet coke break" while women ogled him and made suggestive comments were never pulled for being sexist....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    It's a double standard we have live with sadly.
    Like equal employment law, democracy & a then quota for female politians. It's a product of an elite powerful lobby in action.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    summerskin wrote: »
    funny how the diet coke ads featuring men stripping to the waist on a "diet coke break" while women ogled him and made suggestive comments were never pulled for being sexist....

    My point exactly!

    We women are far too sensitive at times.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    I like looking at scantily clad wimmins. They don't make me think I want to hop on a plane to some not so far flung destination. The only problem with the ad in my opinion is the lack of a definitive relationship between the product and the setting of the ad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Didn't Michael O'Leary say that feminists need to get a sense of humour?

    Obviously they didn't listen to him!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,652 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    There's a new Bounty ad where Juan Sheet turns up to clean up spills and shake his ass and as he does so, women stand behind him and check him out.

    Can you imagine if that was a woman? There's be bras burning all over the shop!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,105 ✭✭✭Swampy


    I agree with the op. no where near enough sexy ladies in skimpy underwear in advertising.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,424 ✭✭✭Storminateacup


    Wow. 17 ugly people with nothing better to do.


    They probably wouldn't even fit in a ryanair seat anyway.

    Haters b hatin


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Susie_Q




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,652 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    By the way, i'd love to know how a woman being sexy is even sexist in the first place!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Dunny


    Offensive to women? Was O'Leary in a mini skirt?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,652 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Dunny! wrote: »
    Offensive to women? Was O'Leary in a mini skirt?

    It was only offensive to women because the ones who complained were ridiculously jealous of the chick in the poster!

    Bitches be hatin'!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭stargazer 68


    17 complaints? 17 cabin crew who didnt get picked as sexy more like! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭jimthemental


    Susie_Q wrote: »

    Must have been a yorkie ad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,033 ✭✭✭Feisar


    I don't think there is a double standard at play.


    Advertisers make the ads and sex sells. I don't think they have an agenda beyond the product they are pushing. The ad gets released and if there is uproar it'll get pulled.
    How many men complained to the advertising watchdog thingy about the Diet Coke ad?

    The only time I see men complain about these things are in double standard arguments.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Dunny


    You could say people would be O'Learing....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    I love tha add where yer wan i at home making the dinner and uses some new bag to cook chicken and veg in, then the husband seat down and tastes it "Good job Carrol". And she is so happy that she has impressed him.

    You can impress your housebound too!!

    Seen one the other day, good looking woman is getting no attention from Housebound, she makes him a nice cup of coffee, he tastes it, it's good, he realises she is in the room! Wow! Coffee make husband like you! onlt 4:99!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭Raditub


    Total overreaction!!! Grow up..sex sells! Who cares like?! Take it easy and dont be soo uptight ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Dunny




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,033 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Is the us of a scantily clad person in advertising not the objectification of a sex rather than sexism which is discrimination of a person due to their sex?

    I'm probably being pedantic here.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    So the summer holidays are approaching.
    Ryanair want to advertise their fares to these sunny destinations.
    The chose a slogan "Try our red hot fares"
    An attractive model in a red bikini on a sunny beach with a banal double entendre.

    Cue media uproar at the objectifying of women.
    Cue more media coverage for ryanair.
    Win-Win for media troll Michael O'Leary, again.

    I do wonder if the same over-reaction would have been noted had the model in question been a size 14 or sans make up or a six -pack sporting male model with all the trimmings.

    I guess it stems from the sexes reaction to being a sexual object. i.e. if a man is sexually objectified other men react with quiet envy in a "Ya lucky bastard *nudge nudge* *wink wink*" whereas the general response from women (or should I be specific here and suggest daily mail type readers) is that this is 'unacceptable', 'outrageous', 'this will fuel rape' , 'Think of the Children!', 'BAN THIS SICK FILTH' and other histrionic reactions. Whereas the majority of women simply don't care.

    They who shout loudest, get heard most.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭Napper Hawkins


    Guill wrote: »
    I love tha add where yer wan i at home making the dinner and uses some new bag to cook chicken and veg in, then the husband seat down and tastes it "Good job Carrol". And she is so happy that she has impressed him.

    You can impress your housebound too!!

    Seen one the other day, good looking woman is getting no attention from Housebound, she makes him a nice cup of coffee, he tastes it, it's good, he realises she is in the room! Wow! Coffee make husband like you! onlt 4:99!

    Housebound?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    Housebound?


    Husband...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭Napper Hawkins


    Feisar wrote: »
    Is the us of a scantily clad person in advertising not the objectification of a sex rather than sexism which is discrimination of a person due to their sex?

    I'm probably being pedantic here.


    The way I see it, the scantily clad women/men being 'objectified' in these ads don't seem to have a problem with it and more than likely get paid handsomely for it too.

    So why should anyone else?

    Change the channel, turn off your tv or get a ****ing grip and realise that the world isn't how you think it should be. (that's not directed at you, Feisar)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭Napper Hawkins


    Guill wrote: »
    Husband...

    I figured that much, I thought you were deliberately spelling it wrong for a reason seeing as you spelt it correctly in other parts of your post.

    Never mind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    This was banned because gay men objected



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭policarp


    There was no sex in Ireland before The Late Late Show.
    So one of our former politicians seemed to think. . .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭LittleBook


    The promotion, which showed scantily-clad women in lingerie ... in conjunction with the text 'Red hot fares & crew!!!' and the names of the women.

    My problem with the ads isn't that they're sexist but that they're demeaning to Ryanair cabin crew (not the "models").
    "I'm a member of cabin crew. I love my job and take it seriously, so I was disgusted to see this Ryanair ad, which basically portrays cabin crew as glamour models.

    "My work colleagues, many of whom are male, work hard with me to ensure the safety of our passengers.

    "Safety is our number-one priority, not the brand of our underwear."

    I travel a lot with Ryanair and I genuinely feel sympathy for the shíte the cabin crew have to put up with from passengers, not because of themselves but because of the rules of the company they work for which tend to píss people off. This is just a slap in the face.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Either way, O'Leary got his advert to have it's impact which is being noticed by more people than it would be if it had just run it's course and not brought so much to the media's and people's attention


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