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Govt promises 100,000 new jobs by 2016

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  • #32
    jank
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭jank


    The plan itself is ambitious and bit "fluffy". Has the halmarks of a PR/Marketing consultant. But it may be a step in the right direction. Giving people credit to start their own business is the most important point in all this. Lots of talented people out there with ideas. Along with changed bankruptcy laws that should free up a sector in society to start taking risks and try and create businesses that will employ people.

    I don't think it is going to create the amount of jobs it is claiming and those that are in their 40's or 50's who worked in the construction sector can either change careers, stay on the dole, start a business or emigrate. Thats the choice. Adapt or die. I heard here in Australia that Gen Y will have up to 7 different careers, not jobs, careers!! It is the world we live in where information and knowledge leads people to try out many different things/interests/hobbies. The days of being a brickie all your life is over.


  • #33
    lmimmfn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭lmimmfn


    WalterMitty wrote: »
    Not all parts of country are gonna have high speed access likeexists in Dublin etc. Fibre optic network access would be neccesary for most IT companies ?
    Its already exists, the country is covered with a fibre backbone, only that the last leg is only covered by eircon or UPC, meaning that the connections to businesses are as crap as to your home unless youre in a UPC area or within 2 miles of direct cabling to an eircom exchange
    jank wrote: »
    Em, no it doesnt! Unless you mean you want faster broadband so that you can play COD. There is good infrastructure in the larger urban areas where most of the country lives. It may not be Norway or South Korea but lets not kid ourselves that people in say Mallow have to rely on 56k dialup.
    There isint good infrastructure in larger urban areas, even areas of Dublin were only cables last year and its still not completely covered.
    The average upload speed is 40kilobytes per second in the country, its hardly surprising there are no small IT industries developing in the country when you need a huge outlay just to maintain a website. Even using web hosting but you need to modify database entries, importing that data from your home or a small office will take days, if it works at all as most likely it will timeout. You need to upload a video for advertisement, 100 Meg? thats 50 minutes on average, most likely 7-8 hours due to the unreliability on average of broadband in this country.

    If you use it you will know how $hit the broadband is in this country for any development, it should be infrastructure to support development across the country, not just for multinationals in Dublin or UPC covered areas in some towns/cities.

    My point is theyre continuing to sell the FF nonsense of the 'smart economy'. IT and all that crap yet there is no infrastructure to support it and as broadband performance goes, Mongolia would be better suited than Ireland for a smart economy except they dont speak english or have lavish tax breaks, bar tax breaks the UK is far more suited to IT.

    Ignoring idiots who comment "far right" because they don't even know what it means



  • #34
    jank
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    Why would you upload a 100mb video for web use? :confused:
    Have you lived and worked in Mongolia?

    I think you need to recognise the difference between home Broadband and enterprise tiered networks.


  • #35
    lmimmfn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭lmimmfn


    jank wrote: »
    Why would you upload a 100mb video for web use? :confused:
    Have you lived and worked in Mongolia?

    I think you need to recognise the difference between home Broadband and enterprise tiered networks.
    its an example, a training video to stream would easily be 100Meg

    People use home broadband to modify and maintain sites, i dont see why i would rent an office close to where i can get UPC just to maintain a website.

    Ignoring idiots who comment "far right" because they don't even know what it means



  • #36
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,058 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    I smell a Referendum approaching and all these new jobs will disappear if we don't vote "Yes".


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  • #37
    Vita nova
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 768 ✭✭✭Vita nova


    tayto lover wrote: »
    I smell a Referendum approaching and all these new jobs will disappear if we don't vote "Yes".

    Lol no!


  • #38
    jank
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭jank


    lmimmfn wrote: »
    its an example, a training video to stream would easily be 100Meg

    People use home broadband to modify and maintain sites, i dont see why i would rent an office close to where i can get UPC just to maintain a website.

    And realistically what type of upload/download speed do you want to have to maintain a few web-sites? If it was a full time thing which pays your mortgage then surely it would pay you to invest in better/faster broadband. If it were your own business then would it not be tax deductable, if you are even declaring this income for tax? ;)

    Using a home broadband package and then complain that its not fit for purpose holds no water with me.

    I think you want your cake and eat it too.
    You want to live out in the country, yet want the government to provide you with a super fast network connection like they have in Seoul (pop: 10 million ) so you can utilise fast BB speeds. Would be great to know the area in which you live so that we can actually see what options there are?


  • #39
    Permabear
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  • #40
    Bullseye1
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    No doubt they will be retired public servants rehired on contract because they should never been allowed to retire in thr first place. This government is void of any good ideas.


  • #41
    the groutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    First time I've seen Richard Bruton since the election.
    The question is what has he been doing for the last year to stop the haemorraging of jobs in the country to make us think for one second that he can contribute to creating 100,000 new ones?


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  • #42
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    jank wrote: »
    And realistically what type of upload/download speed do you want to have to maintain a few web-sites? If it was a full time thing which pays your mortgage then surely it would pay you to invest in better/faster broadband. If it were your own business then would it not be tax deductable, if you are even declaring this income for tax? ;)

    Using a home broadband package and then complain that its not fit for purpose holds no water with me.

    I think you want your cake and eat it too.
    You want to live out in the country, yet want the government to provide you with a super fast network connection like they have in Seoul (pop: 10 million ) so you can utilise fast BB speeds. Would be great to know the area in which you live so that we can actually see what options there are?

    They have super fast BB speeds all over Britain/Holland/Germany/Belgium, not just highly populated areas. Ireland's broadband services are beyond a joke.


  • #43
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    AdamD wrote: »
    They have super fast BB speeds all over Britain/Holland/Germany/Belgium, not just highly populated areas. Ireland's broadband services are beyond a joke.

    Two words: Population Density.


  • #44
    [Deleted User]
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    Rojomcdojo wrote: »
    Two words: Population Density.

    Two words: 'Smart Economy'.


  • #45
    [Deleted User]
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    AdamD wrote: »
    Two words: 'Smart Economy'.

    What has that got to do with population density?


  • #46
    [Deleted User]
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    Rojomcdojo wrote: »
    What has that got to do with population density?

    It has to do with having better BB service than our population density would entail.


  • #47
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    AdamD wrote: »
    It has to do with having better BB service than our population density would entail.

    No it doesn't! Where is this reasoning coming from? You've lost me.


  • #48
    tibor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭tibor


    AdamD wrote: »
    They have super fast BB speeds all over Britain/Holland/Germany/Belgium, not just highly populated areas.

    Recently moved to central London where BT are only just getting around to upgrading most exchanges to their "infinity" level service, and there are small pockets of select areas with lines for Virgin Media high-speed cable broadband. Most areas are still at around 10Mb tops. My experience and service in terms of home broadband in Dublin has been much better with both UPC and Eircom than what's available in London now. It is a *lot* cheaper in London though.

    Just sayin'.

    /offtopic


  • #49
    Defiler Of The Coffin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Defiler Of The Coffin


    It would be nice to see what steps the government are intending to take to reduce red-tape and cut business costs. That's the best thing they can do to create sustainable jobs.

    I heard Kenny saying to business leaders in America that if they encounter stumbling blocks to creating business in Ireland that they should contact him directly but it would be nice to have something more concrete in place.


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