Munster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

thomond2006 · 12-02-2012 10:05PM

It will be interesting to see the Munster selection when they deem Jones ready (let's not rush him).

IMO Jones is the best 15 Munster have but it would be harsh for Hurley to be benched with Murphy starting on the wing, even though Hurley is a much better 15 than wing.

Amazotheamazing · 13-02-2012 10:30AM

thomond2006 wrote: »

It will be interesting to see the Munster selection when they deem Jones ready (let's not rush him).

IMO Jones is the best 15 Munster have but it would be harsh for Hurley to be benched with Murphy starting on the wing, even though Hurley is a much better 15 than wing.

Not much place for sentiment in sport though. Hope Jones can get a long long of fitness.

Fireball07 · 13-02-2012 10:52AM

Try Hurley as a centre. He's got wonderful hands.

Amazotheamazing · 13-02-2012 11:35AM

Fireball07 wrote: »

Try Hurley as a centre. He's got wonderful hands.

Don't see it, for a big guy he's bad at using his size to his advantage.

CiaranMT · 13-02-2012 04:17PM

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

Don't see it, for a big guy he's bad at using his size to his advantage.

Have you not seen him for the last number of months? He's been very Halstead-esque imo with his offloading in the tackle.

Amazotheamazing · 13-02-2012 05:24PM

CiaranMT wrote: »

Have you not seen him for the last number of months? He's been very Halstead-esque imo with his offloading in the tackle.

I think his offloading has improved but he's a big guy, he should be capable of smashing through tackles, too often he doesn't.

Moflojo · 13-02-2012 05:36PM

CatFromHue wrote: »

The ex-Leinster youth collected his three Ireland caps after consistent performances for Munster last season as he ousted Paul Warwick from the number 15 shirt.

My current list of petty annoyances in media coverage/internet discussion of rugby consists of:

Repeated references to Felix Jones's Leinster origins, even after how many seasons at Munster?
Breaking news- David Kearney is Rob Kearney's younger brother!!!
Ireland needs a cheating natural number 7 that knows how to stretch the rules

That's it for now, I'm sure I can think of more though!

CIARAN_BOYLE · 13-02-2012 05:39PM

Moflojo wrote: »

Repeated references to Felix Jones's Leinster origins, even after how many seasons at Munster?

Niall Ronan's Leinster past is still often referred to. Ross Boss and Redden often have their past provinces referred to.

jacothelad · 13-02-2012 06:29PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

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Niall Ronan's Leinster past is still often referred to. Ross Boss and Redden often have their past provinces referred to.

Ulster apparently have 15 South Africans playing for them and no Irish men at all.

budhabob · 13-02-2012 07:35PM

jacothelad wrote: »

Ulster apparently have 15 South Africans playing for them and no Irish men at all.

Do they not have a few on the bench too?

jm08 · 13-02-2012 07:49PM

jacothelad wrote: »

Ulster apparently have 15 South Africans playing for them and no Irish men at all.

About half your team are irish - you have 1 greek, 1 englishman, 1 kiwi, 4 south africans and 2 australians. :pac:

[Jackass] · 13-02-2012 08:45PM

Moflojo wrote: »

Repeated references to Felix Jones's Leinster origins, even after how many seasons at Munster?

Unfortunately, no matter how much you want it to change, along with Niall Ronan, Ian Keatley, Johne Murphy and James Downey, he'll always be a Leinster product who ended up at Munster, as Ruddock would have been if he didn't turn down the contract also.

munsternumber1 · 13-02-2012 09:18PM

Moflojo wrote: »

My current list of petty annoyances in media coverage/internet discussion of rugby consists of:

Repeated references to Felix Jones's Leinster origins, even after how many seasons at Munster?

Breaking news- David Kearney is Rob Kearney's younger brother!!!

Ireland needs a cheating natural number 7 that knows how to stretch the rules

That's it for now, I'm sure I can think of more though!

The one I hate the most is when a high ball is caught that they were only able to do so because of a GAA back round.

thomond2006 · 13-02-2012 09:20PM

All the Irish squad members bar the starting XV selected for the French game will be released for provincial duty this weekend, so Munster will have Ryan, POM and ROG available for the trip to Treviso.

I would have Earls involved in the Munster game too, he hasn't played for nearly a month now. Doesn't look likely though.

Hopefully the Italian weather has cleared up so this trip to Italy will go ahead!

Quint2010 · 13-02-2012 09:29PM

[Jackass] wrote: »

Unfortunately, no matter how much you want it to change, along with Niall Ronan, Ian Keatley, Johne Murphy and James Downey, he'll always be a Leinster product who ended up at Munster, as Ruddock would have been if he didn't turn down the contract also.

Did Ruddock turn down Munster afterall?

irishbucsfan · 13-02-2012 09:31PM

Quint2010 wrote: »

[QUOTE='[Jackass];77072417']Unfortunately, no matter how much you want it to change, along with Niall Ronan, Ian Keatley, Johne Murphy and James Downey, he'll always be a Leinster product who ended up at Munster, as Ruddock would have been if he didn't turn down the contract also.

Did Ruddock turn down Munster afterall?[/Quote]
Munster alluded to it last week on their website. Don't think they actually officially made him a proper offer.

GerM · 13-02-2012 09:32PM

Quint2010 wrote: »

Did Ruddock turn down Munster afterall?

It's on Munster's website, oddly enough.

http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/10095.php

"Ruddock is also understood to have decided to remain with Leinster rather than accept the Munster offer."

ed7890 · 13-02-2012 09:36PM

thomond2006 wrote: »

All the Irish squad members bar the starting XV selected for the French game will be released for provincial duty this weekend, so Munster will have Ryan, POM and ROG available for the trip to Treviso.

I would have Earls involved in the Munster game too, he hasn't played for nearly a month now. Doesn't look likely though.

Hopefully the Italian weather has cleared up so this trip to Italy will go ahead!

According to the Munster site site Earls is back as well, and looks like he'll get a game

http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/10105.php

thomond2006 · 13-02-2012 09:48PM

ed7890 wrote: »

According to the Munster site site Earls is back as well, and looks like he'll get a game

http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/10105.php

Ah that's good so.

Amazotheamazing · 14-02-2012 12:40AM

[Jackass] wrote: »

Unfortunately, no matter how much you want it to change, along with Niall Ronan, Ian Keatley, Johne Murphy and James Downey, he'll always be a Leinster product who ended up at Munster, as Ruddock would have been if he didn't turn down the contract also.

Ruddock is a welsh product surely?

Tbh, I've been fairly impressed by both TOD and Butler this season, I don't think the move made sense for Ruddock or for Munster. TOD is back playing after his injury against Ulster, hopefully either he or Butler will get a start against Treviso, though Kidney might want POM picked at 7.

Amazotheamazing · 14-02-2012 12:45AM

Seems Leinster want yet another Munster player to go along with Cronin, Ross, Reddan and Fitzgerald.

@Indo_Sport
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Donnacha Ryan considers shock move to Leinster as Brad Thorn deal gives Schmidt's men temporary lift

Can't see Ryan going for it myself, would be hilarious to see the reaction on here if Leinster had three Munster players in their tight 5 though.

.ak · 14-02-2012 12:56AM

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

Seems Leinster want yet another Munster player to go along with Cronin, Ross, Reddan and Fitzgerald.

@Indo_Sport
IndoSport
Donnacha Ryan considers shock move to Leinster as Brad Thorn deal gives Schmidt's men temporary lift

Can't see Ryan going for it myself, would be hilarious to see the reaction on here if Leinster had three Munster players in their tight 5 though.

I'd imagine that's his agent doing a bit of fishing... and it's also coming from the indo...

funky penguin · 14-02-2012 01:02AM

Yeah wouldn't put too much stock in it. DR is first choice ahead of DOC and is playing well for one of Europe's top teams. Can't see him moving.

.ak · 14-02-2012 01:05AM

funky penguin wrote: »

Yeah wouldn't put too much stock in it. DR is first choice ahead of DOC and is playing well for one of Europe's top teams. Can't see him moving.

Is he though? I'd like to see the stats, but pretty sure DOC has more starts.. but that's probably down to Ryan's ability to cover backrow too...

EDIT: actually on first glance Ryan does have more starts, sorry. Stand to be corrected tho.

Amazotheamazing · 14-02-2012 01:06AM

funky penguin wrote: »

Yeah wouldn't put too much stock in it. DR is first choice ahead of DOC and is playing well for one of Europe's top teams. Can't see him moving.

you never know though, training ground bust up, taking Lar's retirement badly, could be any number of things that'd drive a Tipp man to do something reckless.

ormond lad · 14-02-2012 01:12AM

dont see it happening tbh, might be in rugby club in nenagh tomorrow and may find out if anyone in the club has heard anything concrete.

He's got 5 starts in the heineken this year ahead of 1 for DOC and will definately get the most gametime he's ever got for munster in a season this season
DOC has 6 starts and 6 sub appearances this season
DR has 9 starts and 1 sub appearance

funky penguin · 14-02-2012 01:12AM

.ak wrote: »

Is he though? I'd like to see the stats, but pretty sure DOC has more starts.. but that's probably down to Ryan's ability to cover backrow too...

No idea of the stats, but his versatility certainly helps. Personally, as I see it, he's ahead of DOC in the pecking order, or at the very least it's in transition towards doing so.

EDIT: sorry, just saw your edit there.

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

you never know though, training ground bust up, taking Lar's retirement badly, could be any number of things that'd drive a Tipp man to do something reckless.

True that.

tolosenc · 14-02-2012 01:39AM

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

Seems Leinster want yet another Munster player to go along with Cronin, Ross, Reddan and Fitzgerald.

Eh, what?

14-02-2012 07:42AM

Ryan doesnt strike me as kind of guy who'd "use" the media as leverage in contract negotiations.

Couple of scenarios stand out.
1 - it's waffle
2 - he's after a central contract but with DOC and POC both on them it may not be possible to get one at Munster
3 - Leinster rocked the **** out of the both when they realised extent of Leo's absence and made silly promises to IQ second rows that Ryan is considering.
4 - yeah it's waffle

irishbucsfan · 14-02-2012 08:13AM

I'd love Ryan at leinster but realistically its very very unlikely.

It'd be a massive blow for that Munster pack's future post-POC

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