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NYC VS London. Which is the best place to live ?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    I think theres 1 in Ireland, theres a UK company that imports larger engine american cars/trucks then are normally available

    Yeah, there's a few American cars here in ireland - I've even seen one or two of them myself. :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭steve9859


    I've lived in both and currently in London. Both are great if you are earning enough to live in them on your own terms - ie. choose where you want to live (eg. by the parks), and don't have to watch what you spend (if you are not in that position, i can understand why people dont enjoy those cities).

    New York is the best for the 24 hour life and general craziness. London best for the range of things to do and the international connections for weekends away.

    So in a nutshell I guess that means (IMO) New York is the best for those in their 20's, London for 30's.

    (and maybe back to dublin when I'm a good bit older as compared the the other two, I just dont find that there is as much going on!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    Lived in London for 2 years and I'd say New York although I've only visited for a couple of days. I found the place ridiculously exciting and new and I didn't feel the same way in London although I'd a deadly time living there too. I'd recommend South London if you're moving there. Lived in East London and the hipsters seriously got on my tits after 2 years of living there. Would love to live in New York but there's no chance without a visa, is there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Neither? The Irish obsession with New Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark is tilting.
    London is gash.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭Yahew


    steve9859 wrote: »
    I've lived in both and currently in London. Both are great if you are earning enough to live in them on your own terms - ie. choose where you want to live (eg. by the parks), and don't have to watch what you spend (if you are not in that position, i can understand why people dont enjoy those cities).

    Thats gotta be a salary over £100K, then. ( My guess is - given you lived in both - you are a banker).
    New York is the best for the 24 hour life and general craziness. London best for the range of things to do and the international connections for weekends away.

    So in a nutshell I guess that means (IMO) New York is the best for those in their 20's, London for 30's.

    (and maybe back to dublin when I'm a good bit older as compared the the other two, I just dont find that there is as much going on!)

    Not convinced by the international connections bit. Whats amazing about London is how little influenced it is by France, a country just a few miles away, and how few people take the train. Most people fly anywhere, anyhow.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭pabloh999


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    Neither? The Irish obsession with New Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark is tilting.
    London is gash.

    Irish obsession??
    You mean world obsession.;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭steve9859


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    Neither? The Irish obsession with New Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark is tilting.
    London is gash.

    Small-minded much??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭Yahew


    Thats the other thing about both cities - unless you are a CEO or a banker the bankers will be earning more than you. And unlike CEOs there are tens of thousands of bankers,and they are going to get the nice places to live.


  • Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭ Ezra Sticky Stack


    Definitely New York. I've lived in both cities and just felt so much more at home in NYC. There's a real exciting feel to it, all the time and I love that it's an island with water all around (something I really miss in London - it often feels like a prison to me). If I could get a visa, I'd be over to NYC in a heartbeat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭steve9859


    Yahew wrote: »
    steve9859 wrote: »
    I've lived in both and currently in London. Both are great if you are earning enough to live in them on your own terms - ie. choose where you want to live (eg. by the parks), and don't have to watch what you spend (if you are not in that position, i can understand why people dont enjoy those cities).

    Thats gotta be a salary over £100K, then. ( My guess is - given you lived in both - you are a banker).

    [

    And what of it if I was?

    Your comment re. 100k: tbh, to get the most out of both cities, and actually live in the city instead of having a big commute from the 'burbs (esp if you have little ones) that is about right


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 548 ✭✭✭Seomra Mushie


    Have never lived in either city, have visited London a few times.

    I picked NYC as I think I would prefer that it is much more compact than London, and nearer the sea.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭Yahew


    steve9859 wrote: »
    And what of it if I was?

    Your comment re. 100k: tbh, to get the most out of both cities, and actually live in the city instead of having a big commute from the 'burbs (esp if you have little ones) that is about right

    Nothing, I was just saying.

    You made the point yourself that you needed to live beside the parks. I know the cost of housing, or rent, in Hyde Park and Central Park.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭steve9859


    Yahew wrote: »
    steve9859 wrote: »
    And what of it if I was?

    Your comment re. 100k: tbh, to get the most out of both cities, and actually live in the city instead of having a big commute from the 'burbs (esp if you have little ones) that is about right

    Nothing, I was just saying.

    You made the point yourself that you needed to live beside the parks. I know the cost of housing, or rent, in Hyde Park and Central Park.

    I actually live near the river - was just an example. What I should have said was "to live in the community / borough of your choice". Many people moving to either arent able to do that and the point I was making is both London and NYC can suck if you don't live there on your own terms.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭Johnny Foreigner


    I was born in London and lived there for 28 years. I have also lived with my cousin in New York for 3 months.
    To be honest with you I would not choose to live in either city.
    I moved to Ireland from London 3 years ago, and my quality of life is better here.
    There is nothing between New York and London, with globalisation and capitalism they are very similar in many ways. Culturally they are totally different.
    Both are cosmopolitan cities made up of millions of immigrants.
    I find that the culture and lifestyle in Ireland is better than in either New York or London.
    They are great cities to visit, for a holiday etc. But living there is something different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭SHOVELLER


    NYC for sure. Love going to London for a weekend but wouldnt live there.

    There is an energy in NYC that I havent experienced in any other city.

    Plus you can drink until 4am legally there. London's opening hours are appalling for a world tourism city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭youreadthis


    London. Greener, better variety of architecture, better transport, nearer other great countries/cities of Europe. As much to see and do as NYC. Outside of Manhattan there isn't much to New York, but outside of Central London there are some amazing gems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    Would chop my nuts off before I'd live in either city. Two of the most unfriendliest, impersonal and emotionally detached cities in the world today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,315 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    grenache wrote: »
    Would chop my nuts off before I'd live in either city. Two of the most unfriendliest, impersonal and emotionally detached cities in the world today.

    You're from Limerick and live in Cork, somehow I think your statement is untrue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭saywhatyousee


    Been to New york twice and and London 3 times out of the 2 i would pick London .Rome is the real capital of the world tough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Batsy wrote: »
    ..........
    FOOD

    London has more Michelin star restaurants than any other city in the world, more than New York and more even than Paris.

    London 1-0 NY

    From 2010 - Tokyo has 197 star resturants compared to Londons 48. Paris has 65, New York 56.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Nodin wrote: »
    From 2010 - Tokyo has 197 star resturants compared to Londons 48. Paris has 65, New York 56.

    How many does dublin have?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    I wouldn't want to have to work in either tbh. That said if I could spend my time swanning around like a gadfly without let nor hindrance, I'd probably choose london.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    amacachi wrote: »
    grenache wrote: »
    Would chop my nuts off before I'd live in either city. Two of the most unfriendliest, impersonal and emotionally detached cities in the world today.

    You're from Limerick and live in Cork, somehow I think your statement is untrue.

    I'm from Limerick and live in Limerick, and I agree with grenache, so I think YOUR statement is untrue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    I'm from Limerick and live in Limerick, and I agree with grenache, so I think YOUR statement is untrue

    Sure NYC and London havent a patch on limerick or cork boy, we're pure friendly down in the south.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭steve9859


    grenache wrote: »
    Would chop my nuts off before I'd live in either city. Two of the most unfriendliest, impersonal and emotionally detached cities in the world today.

    I would say that Dublin is the most unfriendly and cliquey (sp?) city of the 3 (and I lived in Dublin for far longer than I lived in NYC and London). I have more good and lasting NYC friends after 2 years there than I do irish friends after 8 in Dublin. I really think it is an urban myth that London and NYC are unfriendly, and one that people who have never lived in either city for a lengthy period of time are quick repeat - I find them far friendlier than Ireland (once you get past the faux friendliness that is put on for tourists)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭ICANN


    I live in London and I see it very differently now to when I used to come here for a weekend away. It is a great city with loads to do but it's also tough and I'd never raise a family here (speaking as a teacher).

    I went to New York a few months ago and I really liked it, it seemed like a really down to earthplace but then again I haven't a clue what it's like to actually live here. One thing that struck me about NYC was the amount of old people (as in late 60s and 70s) working in restaurants and supermarkets etc. Putting in long hours in menial jobs to survive and I also wondered how the men in the hot dog stands make a reasonable living.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    ICANN wrote: »
    . One thing that struck me about NYC was the amount of old people (as in late 60s and 70s) working in restaurants and supermarkets etc. Putting in long hours in menial jobs to survive.

    Yep that struck me too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭Yahew


    steve9859 wrote: »
    I would say that Dublin is the most unfriendly and cliquey (sp?) city of the 3 (and I lived in Dublin for far longer than I lived in NYC and London). I have more good and lasting NYC friends after 2 years there than I do irish friends after 8 in Dublin. I really think it is an urban myth that London and NYC are unfriendly, and one that people who have never lived in either city for a lengthy period of time are quick repeat - I find them far friendlier than Ireland (once you get past the faux friendliness that is put on for tourists)

    Yet you stayed 8 in Dublin? Londoners are fine within their Office walls, or inside in general. but the general atmosphere in the city is unfriendly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭Yahew


    One of the interesting things I find about this debate is the way everybody treats both cities as if yez were rich, which Steve apart, yes probably aren't.

    The number of Michelin starred restaurants in London, and the fact that it is on Europe's doorway ( no more than Dublin really), is irrelevant if after rent and the commute to the suburbs you are too poor, and too exhausted, too far from town, to go anywhere.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I quite liked both cities, bloody expensive to survive in, though. NY is full of lunatic people on public transport, moreso than London.

    At least with London if I want a pack of Walkers crisps I'm sorted, innit bruv'?


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