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Some Neck Guitars

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  • #32
    MilanPan!c
    Site Banned Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭MilanPan!c


    happyman81 wrote: »
    Perhaps learning to manage a credit card would help there. I'd hate to bother people to use their cards. Honestly, I don't see how such a simple thing can be such a problem?

    Thanks for your financial advice.

    If you MUST know. We had a kid and took out a cc to pay for all the kid stuff. There's a lot of expense there. I had also just been made redundant from my job. We ended up maxing the cc (all of 2500 euro) on kids stuff and refuse to get into any more debt until it's paid off... guess why?

    Because we are managing our debt responsibly.

    Want any other details? Does that suffice?

    There's lots of people with money that refuse to use credit cards, for lots of reasons, many of those reasons have nothing to do with being irresponsible.


  • #33
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,181 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    happyman81 wrote: »
    I don't see the point to local music shops anymore. Why pay over the odds for gear that you can get cheaper online?

    And don't give me that 'customer service' crap. The worst CS I have ever seen was at music shops.

    Remember, exceptions never prove the rule.
    I dunno about that, You can't judge craftsmanship,wood quality and playability on thomann..and they are three of the most important things when buying. You could walk into a music shop and play a gibson les paul only to find the next one on the shelf is better...you don't have that luxury online.


  • #34
    MilanPan!c
    Site Banned Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭MilanPan!c


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    I dunno about that, You can't judge craftsmanship,wood quality and playability on thomann..and they are three of the most important things when buying. You could walk into a music shop and play a gibson les paul only to find the next one on the shelf is better...you don't have that luxury online.

    Absolutely true... and the depressing thing is you wouldn't even know until you run into another one, sometimes years later, that you got a poor example.

    There's a great thread on TheGearPage where a guy goes into a music shop and tries a lot of different LPs and discovers just how different they can be, and it has nothing to do with the cost.

    Strats are also notorious for differing pretty wildly; same guitar from the same shop, same price, same finish, same electronics, different sound and feel.

    I wouldn't buy a guitar I couldn't play first... unless it was REALLY cheap.


  • #35
    Grolschevik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    MilanPan!c wrote: »
    Absolutely true... and the depressing thing is you wouldn't even know until you run into another one, sometimes years later, that you got a poor example.

    There's a great thread on TheGearPage where a guy goes into a music shop and tries a lot of different LPs and discovers just how different they can be, and it has nothing to do with the cost.

    Strats are also notorious for differing pretty wildly; same guitar from the same shop, same price, same finish, same electronics, different sound and feel.

    I wouldn't buy a guitar I couldn't play first... unless it was REALLY cheap.

    Exactly! I played pretty much every Les Paul I could find in Dublin a few years back, and it was literally the last one I tried that was the only one that worked for me.


  • #36
    Malice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,077 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    MilanPan!c wrote: »
    I wouldn't buy a guitar I couldn't play first... unless it was REALLY cheap.
    I bought a 5 string bass without playing it a few years ago. In my defence it was a bad attack of GAS but happily it turned out to be a fine instrument. In general though I would agree with you, trying before buying is essential.


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  • #37
    Rigsby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    I'm sure there is not one person on this forum who would not prefer to try before you buy. However, unless you are prepared to take a flight to the country where the guitar is available, often the online route is the only option.

    I suppose if someone has two or three grand to spend on a guitar, this would not pose much of a financial inconvenience.


  • #38
    Malice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,077 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    Rigsby wrote: »
    I'm sure there is not one person on this forum who would not prefer to try before you buy. However, unless you are prepared to take a flight to the country where the guitar is available, often the online route is the only option.
    To be fair, one look at the Post Your Gear thread will show quite a wide variety of instruments and amps owned by folks that post on here. If someone happened to want to play one of my guitars before buying a similar one online I'd have no problem letting them have a play as folks have been kind enough to extend the same offer to me in the past.

    Mind you that doesn't help what Ash and MilanPan!c wrote about 2 guitars of the same make potentially differing quite a lot :).


  • #39
    Ravelleman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    The only thing I'm absolutely convinced you need to try before buying is a high end acoustic. Otherwise, I'm totally in favour of taking a risk and buying from the States unseen.

    The simply fact is that I could never have afforded my Gretsch Annie if I'd tried it and bought in Music Maker (€2400). As it stood, I saw a NOS one on ebay for a fantastic price and I bought it. There was a certain elements of risk but the 66% savings I made on the price, including shipping and tax, give me a warm and fuzzy feeling inside. It's superb guitar but the price I paid is one of the best things about it.


  • #40
    Stompbox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭Stompbox


    MilanPan!c wrote: »
    I wouldn't buy a guitar I couldn't play first... unless it was REALLY cheap.

    Or unless you're REALLY rich.


  • #41
    Rigsby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    Malice wrote: »
    To be fair, one look at the Post Your Gear thread will show quite a wide variety of instruments and amps owned by folks that post on here. If someone happened to want to play one of my guitars before buying a similar one online I'd have no problem letting them have a play as folks have been kind enough to extend the same offer to me in the past.

    Mind you that doesn't help what Ash and MilanPan!c wrote about 2 guitars of the same make potentially differing quite a lot :).

    Not much choice if you happen to like USA G&L guitars/basses ;)

    I agree about letting people play a guitar if they are considering buying.



    Ravelleman wrote: »
    I'm totally in favour of taking a risk and buying from the States unseen.


    The simply fact is that I could never have afforded my Gretsch Annie if I'd tried it and bought in Music Maker (€2400). As it stood, I saw a NOS one on ebay for a fantastic price and I bought it. There was a certain elements of risk but the 66% savings I made on the price, including shipping and tax, give me a warm and fuzzy feeling inside. It's superb guitar but the price I paid is one of the best things about it.

    +1. I have bought three basses on line from the USA. I am very happy with them all, and the purchase transactions. Who knows ? Maybe I was lucky, but I'd certainly do the same again.


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  • #42
    kingofpain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 ✭kingofpain


    raindog.promo wrote: »
    There was a nice music instrument shop I went into the other day above a pub on Capel street. before Godwins if you're walking towards the Liffey. Don't remember the name of it. Nice pleasant guy runs it....

    McNeils/O'Neils, actually a few houses in the other direction. Anywayz, cosy place for the folk crowd but the good man told me he's closing for good next weekend. There are a few acoustics hanging there.

    Visited Some Neck for the first time also, hope he can stay in business with that impressive stock - not for my purse though. Could probably have chosen a better name but wtf, seen worse (Xmusic for starters)


  • #43
    happyman81
    Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭happyman81


    MilanPan!c wrote: »
    happyman81 wrote: »
    Perhaps learning to manage a credit card would help there. I'd hate to bother people to use their cards. Honestly, I don't see how such a simple thing can be such a problem?

    Thanks for your financial advice.

    If you MUST know. We had a kid and took out a cc to pay for all the kid stuff. There's a lot of expense there. I had also just been made redundant from my job. We ended up maxing the cc (all of 2500 euro) on kids stuff and refuse to get into any more debt until it's paid off... guess why?

    Because we are managing our debt responsibly.

    Want any other details? Does that suffice?

    There's lots of people with money that refuse to use credit cards, for lots of reasons, many of those reasons have nothing to do with being irresponsible.

    Personally, if I was in your scenario I wouldn't be dropping 400 euro on a delay pedal. I have a job, and I am fretting over potentially spending 500 on an analog synth. But as they say, it's your money, I wasn't judging you in my previous post, despite your response.


  • #44
    raindog.promo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭raindog.promo


    kingofpain wrote: »
    McNeils/O'Neils, actually a few houses in the other direction. Anywayz, cosy place for the folk crowd but the good man told me he's closing for good next weekend. There are a few acoustics hanging there.

    Visited Some Neck for the first time also, hope he can stay in business with that impressive stock - not for my purse though. Could probably have chosen a better name but wtf, seen worse (Xmusic for starters)

    Shame. I've been off the beer for January. I'll have to nip in and see if I can get something.


  • #45
    BostonB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    Doesn't matter if its a cheap or expensive quitar you could try 10 of the same quitar and they'd all fell different. You can't judge that online. Unless of course you reckon it doesn't matter...


  • #46
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,741 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    happyman81 wrote: »
    Personally, if I was in your scenario I wouldn't be dropping 400 euro on a delay pedal. I have a job, and I am fretting over potentially spending 500 on an analog synth. But as they say, it's your money, I wasn't judging you in my previous post, despite your response.

    Woah there, less of the digs lads, play nicely.

    Fair play to Owen doing what he loves in such tough times, the shop looks great from the couple of times I've been in it, bit pricey for myself, but best of luck to him.


  • #47
    happyman81
    Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭happyman81


    stetyrrell wrote: »
    happyman81 wrote: »
    Personally, if I was in your scenario I wouldn't be dropping 400 euro on a delay pedal. I have a job, and I am fretting over potentially spending 500 on an analog synth. But as they say, it's your money, I wasn't judging you in my previous post, despite your response.

    Woah there, less of the digs lads, play nicely.

    Fair play to Owen doing what he loves in such tough times, the shop looks great from the couple of times I've been in it, bit pricey for myself, but best of luck to him.

    It wasn't a dig, I just don't get why having a credit card is such a hassle and thus is a massive hurdle to purchasing goods online, which was the root of our discussion. He may have chosen to take my comments as a personal dig, but I can assure you it wasn't my intention. If you take a second look, I merely said what I would have done in his situation, I never said that he shouldn't have bought the pedal, that's his business.


  • #48
    ohigg84
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭ohigg84


    Glassheart wrote: »
    You won't find the stuff this guy sells on websites like Thomann.

    True, especially that Gibson SG Junoir from 1965. I have my eye on that one..:D


  • #49
    ohigg84
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭ohigg84


    stetyrrell wrote: »
    Woah there, less of the digs lads, play nicely.

    Fair play to Owen doing what he loves in such tough times, the shop looks great from the couple of times I've been in it, bit pricey for myself, but best of luck to him.

    Yeah he is a sound guy, I actually traded in a white sg stamdard '61 reissue for a cherry '61 reissue, and he can fix guitars and amps..
    Owen is a nice, genuine guy, you won't find a lot of guys like him around..


  • #50
    ohigg84
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭ohigg84


    happyman81 wrote: »
    I don't see the point to local music shops anymore. Why pay over the odds for gear that you can get cheaper online?

    And don't give me that 'customer service' crap. The worst CS I have ever seen was at music shops.

    Remember, exceptions never prove the rule.

    I would have to disagree with you there, its fundamental to have local music shops.
    With buying online, who to say that the equipment you buy could be broken whilst in transit or faulty, and there is so much hassle having to get refunded, its all a bit messy.

    On the other hand, I do agree with some of what you say about CS in music shops, I think we all have had our fair share of arseholes that just can't deal with customer queries, however, you will be saitisfied at stores like Someneck guitars.

    Owen, is a really sound guy, he knows his stuff, he maintains guitars and amps, so thats why I value stores like his. Not many like him granted, but its so important.


  • #51
    Bod1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭Bod1


    I think there should be a league of gentlemen sticky on this forum. There are so many threads where people have had bad experiences that a thumbs up thread might be useful. What you got done, things that especially impressed etc.

    Guys like Owen should be applauded for opening a boutique store in Dublin especially in this environment. Even more so if he's providing a high level of customer service. It's long overdue so thumbs up here !


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  • #52
    raindog.promo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭raindog.promo


    Bod1 wrote: »
    I think there should be a league of gentlemen sticky on this forum. There are so many threads where people have had bad experiences that a thumbs up thread might be useful. What you got done, things that especially impressed etc.

    Guys like Owen should be applauded for opening a boutique store in Dublin especially in this environment. Even more so if he's providing a high level of customer service. It's long overdue so thumbs up here !

    I heartily endorse this event or product.


  • #53
    Dord
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,817 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    ohigg84 wrote: »
    Yeah he is a sound guy, I actually traded in a white sg stamdard '61 reissue for a cherry '61 reissue, and he can fix guitars and amps..
    Owen is a nice, genuine guy, you won't find a lot of guys like him around..

    I agree, any time I've been in there he's been excellent. Nice guy to chat to and seriously knows his stuff. :)


  • #54
    ohigg84
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭ohigg84


    Dord wrote: »
    I agree, any time I've been in there he's been excellent. Nice guy to chat to and seriously knows his stuff. :)

    Yeah he is a great guy, and has very good knowledge of guitars and amps, and he does get some rae guitars, such as a Zeimatis.
    I love his shop, and its always a pleasure to do business with him.
    I will continue to do business with him.
    He is trustworthy, friendly and extremely competent.


  • #55
    slavetothegrind
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    i got nothing but abuse in there!




    Ok i may have asked for and started it........:D

    Fair play to owen if i had any readys i would spend them in there happily


  • #56
    Demeyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Demeyes


    Where abouts is the shop located? I wouldn't mind having a look next time I'm in Dublin.
    Also with regards to the buying online thing, I've bought almost all of my guitars without playing them first. In fact the only guitar I've sold is the only one I tested before I put my money down! I've imported a few guitars from the states and saved a load on them and had no hassle. I've been pretty happy with my purchases. I don't mind dealing with music shops but often they are more expensive and they have to order stuff in which is basically what I'd be doing with thomann anyway.


  • #57
    Rigsby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    Demeyes wrote: »
    Where abouts is the shop located? I wouldn't mind having a look next time I'm in Dublin.



    http://www.someneckguitars.com/


  • #58
    Orando Broom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭Orando Broom


    I hope it is going well for him. I pay semi-regular visits to his shop. It is unreal. I covet the Gibson Flying V that mocks me from its perch. Unfortunately I can't afford much (any) of his stock. I feel bad for going in knowing that I am just a voyer.


  • #59
    Ostrom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭Ostrom


    What are the prices like?

    Doubt i'll be up anytime soon to look, but I see some nice looking fiddles from the website photo...


  • #60
    CianRyan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,729 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    The prices are high but there's no reason they should be any lower.
    I bought a MXR Custom Shop GT-OD from him a while back, €90 for it. That seemed to be the same everywhere and it was like new.

    There's some sweeeeet guitars in there and I've been half thinking of buying the vintage Bassman he has!


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  • #61
    ohigg84
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭ohigg84


    I know i'm a little bit off tangent here, but I have to mention customer service again. I do actually have a strong background in customer service, and I actually specialised in services marketing for my masters research, I actually work in retail.

    But back to music, I went to Waltons on George St. yesterday afternoon jus to toy around with the Angus Young Signature SG (the black one), and it took the staff member a good 5 minutes tuning the guitar. He handed me the guitar and went off, but when Iplayed it, the guitar was not tuned properly at all.

    I had to tune it up myself.. That just surmises the sometimes bad service you shouldn't get at a top music shop, especially at Waltons.

    When I go to Owen, any guitar I try out is always in tune, and in good working order. Whats more is that Owen has the time to talk to you, is friendly, and hospitable.

    Some staff at music stores don't deserve to work there,especially the manner in which they treat you, they acrtually dont seem to care at all.

    I want to see more stores like Some Neck guitars around, this is what we need.
    That little bit extra cash is definitely worth the purchase and visit..
    And will definitely lead to you going back there, I know I will.

    My point is.. Sometimes its better to go to the small music stores..


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