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Audi repair costs - incredible!

  • 31-01-2012 09:28AM
    #1
    xabi_a
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭


    So I went to an Audi official service centre yesterday, to investigate some knocking sounds on my '08 A4 2.0 Tdi (about 82,000km). Long story short, they fixed up some loose gearbox mountings, for €150. Not too bad.

    However, they said that the flywheel is noisy, and recommended getting it replaced. Now I know these A4 dual-mass flywheels are notorious, so it's probably true.

    The thing is, they recommend changing the flywheel, clutch plates and release bearing all in one go. Fair enough too. But the total price for them to do this would be ... €2,500 !!! Yes that's right. To be fair it's all detailed down to the last nut and bolt. €1000 just for labour, the rest is parts, VAT etc.

    I've read up on the web about other people who got similar jobs done, and they're always expensive but not that expensive.

    So I see four options:

    1) just keep driving
    2) let this Audi service centre do the job
    3) find a cheaper garage/mechanic in Dublin to do the job
    4) try an Audi dealership in Belfast - I heard they can be much cheaper

    I'd appreciate any opinions on this.

    My thoughts:
    1) is dangerous because these flywheels do go, and if it goes completely it could do much more damage. I reckon I'd like to get the job done within a month or two (I don't do much mileage myself, just bought the car 2 months ago).
    2) I think it's just too much
    3) It's a very big job, but I don't think it's beyond the capabilities of non-Audi garages. Any comments here would be welcome.
    4) I saw in some thread that it was recommended going to NI service centres. The problem is, I'm not sure they'd give me an estimate without seeing the car first. It's a bit of a drive just to get an estimate, would probably cost me a half day at work.


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  • #2
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,630 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Dont keep driving it,

    Do must do mega mileage, but get it repaired it is an 08 afterall not disposable.

    Check around for cheaper independent prices for the same work. You will find the labour rates dramatically reduced, possibly a small saving on the parts.


  • #3
    George Dalton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    This is a relatively simple job for most garages. There are no special tools or equipment required. There is no advantage in having it done by a dealer compared to a good independent garage.

    Is it an old or new shape A4?


  • #4
    R.O.R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,770 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    Probably worth pricing it up with a decent indy - it's only a clutch replacement after all.

    Labour in one of the main Audi dealers is going to be very expensive - probably around €100 an hour so you can cut that dramatically by using an indy. If it's €1,000 labour then that makes parts roughly €1,200 + VAT and that just sounds like a damn expensive clutch to me, but I'm not on that side of things.

    Don't think we've had to replace a clutch on a new model A4 yet, so can't check what it cost us. Highest mileage I can find on an 08 is roughly 180,000km and that hasn't had the clutch done yet.


  • #5
    tin79
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭tin79


    R.O.R wrote: »
    Probably worth pricing it up with a decent indy - it's only a clutch replacement after all.

    Labour in one of the main Audi dealers is going to be very expensive - probably around €100 an hour so you can cut that dramatically by using an indy. If it's €1,000 labour then that makes parts roughly €1,200 + VAT and that just sounds like a damn expensive clutch to me, but I'm not on that side of things.

    Don't think we've had to replace a clutch on a new model A4 yet, so can't check what it cost us. Highest mileage I can find on an 08 is roughly 180,000km and that hasn't had the clutch done yet.

    Its the new DMF that is the expensive part.


  • #6
    MidlandsM
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    In fairness to the boys in Audi, they're GAS craic...........2.5k ehhhhhhh, LOL


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  • #7
    justme7136
    Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭justme7136


    Hate that!!

    What i would do is get the parts through a motor factor yourself, Clutch and flywheel needed, Luk Or sachs Brand will be the exact same as the original audi parts
    You should expect to pay 650 inc vat for both parts, and im sure you could get it fitted for 350-450

    2.500 for a clutch, yeah hang on and il remorgage my house :pac:


  • #8
    xabi_a
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭xabi_a


    It's a new shape A4.

    The costs breakdown is as follows:
    Labour €1004
    Flywheel €872
    Clutch €215
    Release bearing €92

    Then add VAT of course.


  • #9
    trad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭trad


    try this outfit http://www.walkinstownclutch.ie/about.php

    According to their website they are doing an Octavia 1.9tdi DMF and clutch fitted for €500.


  • #10
    George Dalton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    justme7136 wrote: »
    You should expect to pay 650 inc vat for both parts

    I love how people just throw prices out there without anything to back them up :rolleyes:

    You haven't a hope of buying a clutch kit and flywheel for a new shape A4 for €650 including VAT.


  • #11
    George Dalton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    trad wrote: »
    try this outfit http://www.walkinstownclutch.ie/about.php

    According to their website they are doing an Octavia 1.9tdi DMF and clutch fitted for €500.

    That has nothing to do with the OP. It is a totally different car.


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  • #12
    ebbsy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,386 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Try RKgarage.com in D24 as well. Reliable and familiar with this kind of car.


  • #13
    cjt156
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭cjt156


    Its a case of the DMF strikes again; cr@ppy design ends up wiping out Diesel's mpg savings. You're unlucky to be left holding the baby, a lot of diesel-drivers are finding this to be the case.

    DMF, DPF, Swirl-flaps, turbos; all expensive when they fail and most modern Diesels rely on them.


  • #14
    George Dalton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    xabi_a wrote: »
    It's a new shape A4.

    The costs breakdown is as follows:
    Labour €1004
    Flywheel €872
    Clutch €215
    Release bearing €92

    Then add VAT of course.

    Here is how I would price that job and I would imagine most other independents would be along similar lines.

    Labour €400
    Flywheel €500
    Clutch kit including release bearing €300

    Total €1200 + VAT. Any decent garage should be able to do it for that price if not less.


  • #15
    trad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭trad


    George Dalton wrote: »
    That has nothing to do with the OP. It is a totally different car.

    I know it's not the same car, just an indication of the prices they charge. All the OP has to do is make a call with his make and model.


  • #16
    MidlandsM
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    cjt156 wrote: »
    Its a case of the DMF strikes again; cr@ppy design ends up wiping out Diesel's mpg savings. You're unlucky to be left holding the baby, a lot of diesel-drivers are finding this to be the case.

    DMF, DPF, Swirl-flaps, turbos; all expensive when they fail and most modern Diesels rely on them.

    no sh1t sherlock?......;)

    Just to give you a rough starting point on pricing OP, prices in stg etc

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AUDI-A4-2-...item45fd8d4f54

    Kit Includes: Contains dual-mass flywheel, clutch cover assembly and clutch disc - without releaser
    Supplementary Info: Comes Without Concentric Slave Cylinder


  • #17
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,590 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    You can probably save half the price of labour by going to an indy. FWIW it's not just premium car dealers like Audi that have expensive labour rates. Most main dealers (in Dublin) are dear. A neighbour had his DMF changed, plus timing belt job and service just outside of his 3 year warranty for €2,500 on his.....





    .....cheapo Hyundai :rolleyes:

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #18
    marley123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭marley123


    Don't know much about cars:) But OH had to get a couple of parts for his car last wk, quotes were pretty high so he went up to Traynors & picked them up for next to nothing...


  • #19
    MidlandsM
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    marley123 wrote: »
    Don't know much about cars:) But OH had to get a couple of parts for his car last wk, quotes were pretty high so he went up to Traynors & picked them up for next to nothing...

    thats a great help..............


  • #20
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,630 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    marley123 wrote: »
    Don't know much about cars:) But OH had to get a couple of parts for his car last wk, quotes were pretty high so he went up to Traynors & picked them up for next to nothing...

    Always go new for this type of work.


  • #21
    justme7136
    Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭justme7136


    George Dalton wrote: »
    I love how people just throw prices out there without anything to back them up :rolleyes:

    You haven't a hope of buying a clutch kit and flywheel for a new shape A4 for €650 including VAT.

    Now now george!!! i sell car parts for the last 12 years, i looked up the car and priced it on the screen on front of me, i didnt just look into my crystal ball :)


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  • #22
    George Dalton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    So what are the prices then? Also PM me where you work. Because if you are selling clutch, dmf and concentric for the new shape A4 out across the counter to joe public at €650 inc VAT then I am very interested in doing business with you because they cost me a lot more than that from my suppliers.


  • #23
    justme7136
    Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭justme7136


    George Dalton wrote: »
    So what are the prices then? Also PM me where you work. Because if you are selling clutch, dmf and concentric for the new shape A4 out across the counter to joe public at €650 inc VAT then I am very interested in doing business with you because they cost me a lot more than that from my suppliers.

    i work in a distributors i cant sell across the counter, i dont think that car has a concentric cylinder either it its either engine code CAGA, CMEA


  • #24
    dharn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭dharn


    distributor 650, motor factor sells for 800 (according to george dalton )nice mark up for motor factor and thats probably the lower end price


  • #25
    xabi_a
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭xabi_a


    Thanks for the tips guys (and the interesting discussions:) ), there are a few useful leads I'll follow up on.


  • #26
    166man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭166man


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    thats a great help..............
    MidlandsM wrote: »
    no sh1t sherlock?......;)

    Having a rough day Midlands? :D :pac:


  • #27
    R.O.R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,770 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    dharn wrote: »
    distributor 650, motor factor sells for 800 (according to george dalton )nice mark up for motor factor and thats probably the lower end price

    WHAT????!!!???? business's are making profit???!!!????

    23% mark up is pretty low for retail sales.


  • #28
    MidlandsM
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    166man wrote: »
    Having a rough day Midlands? :D :pac:

    lol.....nope, I'm grand here, just in a kinda funny mood.:D


  • #29
    166man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭166man


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    lol.....nope, I'm grand here, just in a kinda funny mood.:D

    It's grandd it's a Tuesday morning sure, last weekend is forgotten and next weekend is still too far away...:p


  • #30
    barryt1975
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 ✭barryt1975


    Forget Audi ROI, go NI [northern Ireland], I got timing belt €900 v's £450 STG and half price service for my 2003 A4 done in the VW main garage in Newry [very very nice people and very quick] - they take ROI cars all the time, and it's half price, I'll never get anything done in ROI again [I did get my flywheel and clutch done on my A4 a few years ago, from memory there were €1kish each from main Audi garage in Dublin], hope this helps.


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  • #31
    Bandara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭Bandara


    R.O.R wrote: »
    WHAT????!!!???? business's are making profit???!!!????

    23% mark up is pretty low for retail sales.


    VERY low

    Too low imo


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