You'd be better off buying a m7r. It's rechargeable so you'll save a fortune on batteries

I reacon the P7 is a great little torch but there is definitely an issue with losing power after a few hours. I have a collection of batteries that still have power in them and are handy for remotes etc all because you start losing power in the torch. Led Lenser have sorted this out with the rechargable models but they do cost extra. I my opinion aswell I reacon you would be better to buy a P7 Gun Mount and a set of Filters and dont bother with the pressure switch. It is of course personal preference but out of all the pressure switches I supplied I took nearly all of them back, the reason being that you must keep constant pressure on it and when your tring to keep a rifle steady and take aim this seems to be very off-putting as the light keeps flickering. I dont understand why they cannot make one that you can just click on and off There is always a debate wether torches are better than a light and battery pack and again it is personal choice. I do believe that shortly we will all use torches as they are a lot handier and save you carrying around battery packs and wires but the problem I see with all L.E.D. torches is the sheer intensity of the light coming off them. Filters will sort this out but at home we have bought L.E.D. Lights that replace our standard GU10's and they have the same sort of "warm light" you get off the halogens so hopefully the manufacturers will do the same sort L.E.D's in the torches soon to try and give off the same light as the Light Forces etc but Im sure its not as simple as that. Happy hunting with whichever you pick:D

I didnt read the rest of the replies, but I have one on the 243 and I wouldnt be without it. Its not as good as some of the bigger lights, but if your like me and you go out on your own and dont have a dedicated lampman by your side well then the P7 is perfect... its not too heavy, if you have the mount no messing with trying to hold the rifle and light at the same time and it gets you out to about 100 yards easily..

but saying all that, you cant get filters (or if you can I havent seen them), its hard enough on the batterys and I found on one of my rifles I couldnt get good clearance with the mount and whatever way the light was reflecting off the barrel it was comming back into the scope and I was losing maybe 1/3 of the picture... that was a right pain in the ass.

Wouldnt go out without my p7. When i had the hmr i used to lamp alone most nights and shot dozons of foxes under it. You can pick up eyes from a good distance out but wouldnt make the fox out till it was closer.

They are not a permanent substitute for a big lamp but i defo wouldnt go out without it and now with the 223 iv gone out on my own a few times just with the p7.

johngalway wrote: »

I had a reflected light issue when I first put on the T8. Solved it by doing two things:

• Moved the scope mount as far back on the scope as possible.
• Put black electrical tape covering the bottom 1/3(ish) of the sunshade of the scope (the sunshade also helps remove reflection, and it keeps the tape well, well away from the lens).

The second point may help your situation with barrel reflection.

Funny enough, I think it was a picture you may have posted that gave me my current idea of putting a sock over the barrel. Its a great job so long as it doesnt rain....

djflawless wrote: »

any chance of a pic?ive been trying to find a lamp suitable for a shotgun but to no avail. .anything ive tried just gets too much of a shock or else doesn't suit the pump

These few photos might help you. Its a very simple clamp that holds any torch onto a shotgun or rifle scope etc, there is also a bike clamp that a few people have used. I never had a problem with the torch moving or getting loose with this gun mount unless you were not using the piece of rubber that comes with -which I keep losing so what i did was glue a small bit to to each side of the mount or someone else told me they cut two small pieces off a bicycle tube ant pull them over each side of the clamp also.
Would also like to point out that you can get filters for the P7 and M7r but they are sold as an "Intelligent Pouch" which is basically a pouch that your supposed ti put the P7 into and it has a coloured filter on the top of it but you can just pull the cap off and put it directly onto the torch.You also get four colours-Red Yellow Green and Blue.

For some reason some of the pics are upside down-Sorry

I will put up some photos comparing the 2 tommorow