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Irish locos in Spain

  • 24-01-2012 08:28PM
    #1
    corktina
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    Just bought a book which shows a Woolworth being loaded on board ship and a dockside full of Irish locos in Spain. :(


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  • #2
    Judgement Day
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    The survival of Irish locos in Spain used to be an urban (?) legend when I became interested in preservation back in the late 1970s, but the pic you refer to shows, they were cut up on the quayside where they were unloaded. I seem to remember that there was some financial shenanigans involved as they were shipped from Ireland as 'operational' locos. Perhaps I'm incorrect in this, it wouldn't be the first time. :D


  • #3
    eejoynt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭eejoynt


    there was a ban on the export of scrap (or a customs duty - same effect) in order to keep raw material prices low for Irish Steel in Haulbowline.
    Shenanigans is maybe a tad to strong a word - maybe proving that the law in this case was an ass!

    there are some pics and a list i think in the IRRS journal at the time


  • #4
    CaptainSkidmark
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    is that picture online?


  • #5
    corktina
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    not as far as I have found


  • #6
    dmcronin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 267 ✭✭dmcronin


    What's the title/author of the book?

    Sounds like part of Todd Andrews' clearout of Inchicore.
    Were any Irish locos scrapped by private firms here, a la Barry in the uk?


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  • #7
    roundymac
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    Forgive my ignorence, but what's a Woolworth?


  • #8
    dmcronin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 267 ✭✭dmcronin


    A nickname for a 2-6-0 loco, built at Woolwich Arsenal, regauged to 5'3'' and bought 'off the shelf' at a bargain price.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSR_Classes_372_and_393


  • #9
    roundymac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭roundymac


    Ahh, were these also know as Woolwich Moguls, or am I going off in the wrong direction?


  • #10
    dmcronin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 267 ✭✭dmcronin


    The very same, 'Mogul' is a reference to the 2-6-0 wheel arrangement.


  • #11
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,730 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    roundymac wrote: »
    Forgive my ignorence, but what's a Woolworth?

    sorry, I'm more used to the SR U and N class cousins...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SECR_N_class

    k35gyu.jpg
    Book is Railways in Irelnad part 4 GSW by Martin Bairstowisbn 978 1 871944 40 2


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  • #12
    Losty Dublin
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    There was a certain Northern Ireland scrap metal merchant who supposedly bought up a welt of the ex CIE and UTA steam locos, scrapped them and sold on the metal and boilers and made his fortunes. He is more famous for a few other trades, mind :)


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