Superbowl XLVI

fisgon · 23-01-2012 05:01PM

New England Patriots

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

I just don't like the match-up for the Pats. I think they match-up badly with the Giants. I would have fancied the Pats to beat the 49ers even though technically the 49ers have an even better defence than the Giants. The Giants can rush the passer with just their front 4 so won't even have to blitz. They will pressure Brady and on the other end they have a good QB and very good receivers and the Pats have been terrible defending the pass. I expect the Giants will try and do exactly what they did in 07 and try to batter Brady only this time they are much better offensively.

Agree with this. The Giants are the team that the Patriots didn't want. I reckon they would have handled the 49ers fairly easily in the end, as SF don't have the offence to keep up. I think the stat yesterday was that they had 1 catch from a WR in the whole game! The Giants are much more dangerous. It's going to be a great game I reckon, though we're going to get sick of all the references to Superbowl 42 within days of the build up starting.

Paully D · 23-01-2012 05:20PM

I voted for the Patriots earlier by an accident when I was using the phone, the Giants will take this IMO.

Giants +3 at evens is a serious price.

woodchopper · 23-01-2012 05:22PM

New England Patriots

I hope the bookies back the patriots bigtime because I may be in for a welcome pay day. The Giants cannot be stopped, when they are in this form they know how to grind it out. The Patriots do not have the team to dismantle the Giants from what I have see, and were lucky last night. The AFC looks pretty weak compared to the NFC during these playoffs. Eli Manning on current form is in the top five in his position, but so is Mr Brady.

matthew8 · 23-01-2012 05:34PM

New England Patriots

I back the Patriots. Their defense is bad, but I just don't get the feeling Eli will constantly score on them. The Giants have coverage issues that the Patriots can exploit, and the Patriots should get the deep ball back after not using it at all against the Ravens.

DiscoHugh · 23-01-2012 08:40PM

heart says Pats, head says Giants.

Don't really put too much into the 07' game as the personnel on both teams are quite different.

But the Giants are the form team. Seem to be peaking at the right time of the season.Pats defence has been generally poor. And the Giants pass rush can get to Brady.

kryogen · 23-01-2012 09:05PM

New England Patriots

The match ups are the thing I dont like from a Pats point of view, I think we will need the Giants to be having an off night to win sadly.

Theyre strengths are our weakness

Utopia Parkway · 23-01-2012 09:08PM

New England Patriots

The Pats run D is actually pretty good. They more or less shut down the Broncos and Ravens from running the ball effectively and both those teams are better than the Giants at running the ball. It's their pass D that would worry you. Especially up against Cruz, Nicks and to a lesser extent Manningham. They will have to try and get to Eli and not give him time to get settled and throw. At least Vince Wilfork seems to be playing out of his mind right now so they will hope for more of the same from him in the Superbowl.

The Giants have a fantastic defensive line but their linebackers are average and their secondary is nothing to write home about either. If the Pats can protect Brady better than they did in 07 and keep him upright he could have a lot of success because the Giants have nobody than can cover Welker and Gronkowski especially. I'm just not sure they will be able to keep JPP, Tuck and Osi off Brady for long enough.

spiralism · 23-01-2012 09:16PM

Giants will wear their white road unis. The similarities just keep stacking up. In 2007/8 the Giants won the 4 vs 5 seed matchup, beat the top seed on the road and the second seed in an overtime thriller by a FG in a road game played in poor conditions. This Superbowl, like Superbowl 42, will be played in a retractable roof dome.

cena · 23-01-2012 11:48PM

Why is it on a Saturday this year.

tallaghtoutlaws · 24-01-2012 12:01AM

cena wrote: »

Why is it on a Saturday this year.

Its not. Tis on the 5th which is the Sunday.

craggles · 24-01-2012 12:07AM

Giants should seriously be favourites for this. They will score plenty, they will make stops, they will get to Brady, they will get turnovers, they will be more physical, they will be gritty as all hell if it's tight in the 4th and Manning will be ice.

craggles · 24-01-2012 12:10AM

Giants have also essentially been in playoff mode for 5 games now.

cena · 24-01-2012 12:19AM

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Its not. Tis on the 5th which is the Sunday.

Sky sports say its sat. thats why I asked

UnitedIrishman · 24-01-2012 12:24AM

New England Patriots

I fancy the Giants in this one. Thought they were a good thing against the 49ers given the way they've played in the last number of weeks. The team with the momentum coming into the playoffs always seems to outperform sides who might have had their records locked in well before the playoffs. NY are the kind of team who relish this and even the little things that I read after the Packers game like the jokes in the dressing room etc, it looks like they love doing it by going on the road.

I could repeat much of the stuff already said on here about the Giants pass rushers and that but not much point saying everything again. The NFC has been a lot stronger this season in my opinion and I think the Giants are going to win in the Manning's back yard by 3.

kmart6 · 24-01-2012 12:50AM

cena wrote: »

Sky sports say its sat. thats why I asked

And that's exactly why you were right to question it in here!

kryogen · 24-01-2012 12:52AM

New England Patriots

Just watched the highlights on bbc again

Carlson is hilarious

He started off by saying if Brady can win his second superbowl he will be up there with the greatest, then corrected himself by saying if he wins his.....third superbowl he can be talked about with the greats!

the man is comedy genius

bruschi · 24-01-2012 09:08AM

another thing I was thinking of, and even contradicts my own point kinda of the Giants being on a great run of form, winning effectively 5 games in a row, all being playoff games basically, but the Patriots have now won 10 in a row. They have some good form too.

whether or not it will make any difference, but I really get the impression the Patriots are 'mentally' tougher this year. I know Belichick has them well drilled about giving the proper soundbites and speaking to the media in the right manner, but form the various interviews of them, they do seem totally focussed, and have been for quite a while now. I'm not much into or get the spirituality side of things, but a lot of the players are talking and mentioning Myra Kraft a lot, and how the season means so much to them and they are playing for Bob Kraft. He went to find BJGE straight after the game to thank him for his celebration where he touched the badge with her initials on it.

Now as I said, being mentally strong or prepared doesnt win games on the field, but it might just be the difference in a tight game. The Patriots have lost twice to the Giants on last minute touchdowns. Its a fine line between winning and losing, and I think it will be a fine line again

Clareman · 24-01-2012 12:31PM

cena wrote: »

Sky sports say its sat. thats why I asked

Sky Sports are hyping a build up show they are having on the Saturday, Super Bowl Sunday is always on a Sunday

HigginsJ · 24-01-2012 03:06PM

New England Patriots

Cant wait for it. Giants are much healthier than they were in the regular season meeting but if i remember correctly either Gronk/Hernandez were missing.

The Giants will have their way with the New England secondary. IF edelman is on the field as a DB Eli will beat him badly.

Hard to know how Giants will handle both Gronk and Hernandez as they struggled with Davis. Grant, Rolle & Phillips need to step up big time. None of our starting LB's are athletic enough and Williams & Jones are too raw in coverage to put on them.

I'd nearly drop Bass and get Boothe in at centre as he would be more capable of holding up againt Wilfork.

Cant wait for it. 27-17 Giants.

Eli with his 2nd ring and 2nd superbowl MVP

Go Giants.

kmart6 · 24-01-2012 08:33PM

Papa Johns SB ad poking fun at Bettis and the coin controversy....gave me a laugh when I saw it on Sunday cause of that and Peyton's bit!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ6SV4EkQHs

FreeOSCAR · 24-01-2012 11:04PM

New England Patriots

Saw this on reddit earlier on.

http://steelergridiron.com/history/rings/sbrings.html

On the whole they are quite hideous things I think but my favorites are probably
The Colts SB 41 followed by the Patriots SB 36 ring.

What do you all think yourselves?

kmart6 · 24-01-2012 11:11PM

Pats jersey for the game!

HigginsJ · 25-01-2012 12:18AM

New England Patriots

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Eli's helmet for the game

davyjose · 25-01-2012 06:09AM

New England Patriots

eagle eye wrote: »

So I guess you don't like the Patriots pass rush then? Or the receivers that are Welker, Gronkowski, Hernandez and Branch? And the best Quarterback ever to walk onto a field?

Seems like he gave a fairly valid argument to me. You're the one listing players names with no actual substance to your argument.

baddebt · 25-01-2012 01:32PM

New England Patriots

i'm sitting on the fence for this superbowl (as a Bears fan people say I should route for the NFC team )...but hey , a few of my mates are Giants ...........they had their fun in 09

looking forward to a good game tho

tonysopprano · 25-01-2012 05:22PM

New England Patriots

FreeOSCAR wrote: »

Saw this on reddit earlier on.

http://steelergridiron.com/history/rings/sbrings.html

On the whole they are quite hideous things I think but my favorites are probably
The Colts SB 41 followed by the Patriots SB 36 ring.

What do you all think yourselves?

Here is one from closer to home. Copy of SB III ring, made for Dublin Celts in Shamrock Bowl IV

eagle eye · 25-01-2012 08:26PM

davyjose wrote: »

Seems like he gave a fairly valid argument to me. You're the one listing players names with no actual substance to your argument.

I merely asked him two questions. I wasn't making a case for the Patriots, but don't worry I'll do that if I feel I have to.

jonnygiles · 25-01-2012 11:41PM

You would have to say coming into this game that both the Giants and the Patriots got a lot of fortune winning both their respective Championship games, Lee Evans had the td pass in his hands for the Ravens when he let it slip and Cundiff hooked the kick badly to send it to overtime. The conditions were not in the Giants favour against San Francisco as their running game was weaker, and if it werent for the muffed punt and fumble in overtime we could have een having the Harbaugh Bowl. That said coming into this game i do believe the Giants are coming into this game with huge momentum and will be hard to stop. Eli playing in the dome should have a good day up against what looks like a weak New England secondary, Giants pass rush will put a lot of pressure on Tom Brady . Giants going into this game as the underdogs suits them down to the ground and will edge this one 20-17

Kev8360 · 26-01-2012 01:48AM

Tough one to call - I always think that if 2 teams play in the Regular season the team which lost (especially if it was a close game) have a good chance of winning the re-match. I will give it to the Patriots but only just: 23-21.

Matt Santos · 26-01-2012 05:49PM

New England Patriots

Giants-
Beat Dallas in a what might as well been a play-off game.
Smashed up Atlanta who were well fancied to go deep.
Went to the prohibitive favs Holy ground. The top offensive team in Football and beat them up lie nobody had for 18 months!
Went to the defensive giant that had not given up a rushing score until Christmas Eve and beat them convincingly.

Patriots-
Secured the No.1 seed and home draws throughout with a solid regular season.
Stepped on the paper thin dream that was the Denver Broncos!
Can consider themselves lucky to have Evans TD knocked out in the endzone and watched Cundiff kick a regular FG wide left.

I have no idea why the Patriots are favs in this tie!

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