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  • #1892
    Means Of Escape
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭Means Of Escape


    I guess Uganda under Amin improved immensely after he booted out their 'colonial overlords!?
    Zimbabwe is doing swimmingly too!!


  • #1893
    Zorbas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭Zorbas


    In the African countries I have visited I found that many of the old people told me of the good times they had under colonial rule but the young always told me how bad it was. The young were born after independence. The roads were built for security and exports and the inherited languages of the colonials was invariably adopted as official, the levels of education and medicine could not be maintained. Terrible really !!


  • #1894
    Nolanger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Nolanger


    Shenshen wrote: »
    I think people who decide to eat meat 7 days a week, 3 meals a day, should not complain about not having enough money at the end of the month, and demand that meat be produced even cheaper than it already is.
    They shouldn't complain if they get ill either. Most meat these days is processed junk.


  • #1895
    psychward
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭psychward


    Nolanger wrote: »
    They shouldn't complain if they get ill either. Most meat these days is processed junk.

    even an old fashioned steak ?


  • #1896
    Temptamperu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    psychward wrote: »
    even an old fashioned steak ?
    Yes, even your steak.


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  • #1897
    karaokeman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭karaokeman


    Welcome to Tallafornia is pretty darn good.

    Shakespeare is rubbish, anyone who thinks this is ignorant needs to read Twain or Joyce, seriously there are better writers out there.

    Leaving Cert modern History is easy as f***.

    Everyone should go to college, its a rite of passage.


  • #1898
    dirtyden
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    me bolly wrote: »
    I guess Uganda under Amin improved immensely after he booted out their 'colonial overlords!?
    Zimbabwe is doing swimmingly too!!

    How many people suffered whilst these people were colonies and every country suffers during the transition, that is a result of colonialism, if there were no colonial overlords there would not be an Amin or a Mugabe (is that not blatantly obvious?). Amin and Mugabe were products of colonialism, you have inadvertently added another proof to my point.


  • #1899
    Means Of Escape
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭Means Of Escape


    karaokeman wrote: »
    Welcome to Tallafornia is pretty darn good.

    Shakespeare is rubbish, anyone who thinks this is ignorant needs to read Twain or Joyce, seriously there are better writers out there.

    Leaving Cert modern History is easy as f***.

    Everyone should go to college, its a rite of passage.

    Profaner of the neighbour stained steel!!
    Screw your courage to the sticking post and you will not fail
    May flights of angels herald thee to thy rest(if you do)


  • #1900
    Means Of Escape
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭Means Of Escape


    dirtyden wrote: »
    How many people suffered whilst these people were colonies and every country suffers during the transition, that is a result of colonialism, if there were no colonial overlords there would not be an Amin or a Mugabe (is that not blatantly obvious?). Amin and Mugabe were products of colonialism, you have inadvertently added another proof to my point.

    You are misinformed. Amin and Mugabe were returning to the way The nations were ruled before the Belgians,French and British moved in namely a supreme ruler.
    When the colonialists left so did stability and prosperity.
    I'd welcome an example of a thriving African country.


  • #1901
    kieranfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭kieranfitz


    dirtyden wrote: »
    What were these positive effects?

    What benefits did we gain from the world wars, I am not sure can you pick a benefit for any country from the world wars. Theoretically the USSR and USA perhaps became superpowers, I would not describe that as a benefit to the world. And what do you mean 'potato factories being prisons for children'. Colonialism never benefitted the colonised.

    What benefits? hmmm well, our national anthem isnt Deutschland uber alles for a start. We left ze Germans take charge all by ourselves.
    Nolanger wrote: »
    The whole points system is a joke because most people aged 23 or older can go to college. School leavers should join the army for a few years and then go to college!

    If I wasnt colour blind I would have, and I'm not alone on that score.


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  • #1902
    dirtyden
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    kieranfitz wrote: »
    dirtyden wrote: »
    What were these positive effects?

    What benefits did we gain from the world wars, I am not sure can you pick a benefit for any country from the world wars. Theoretically the USSR and USA perhaps became superpowers, I would not describe that as a benefit to the world. And what do you mean 'potato factories being prisons for children'. Colonialism never benefitted the colonised.

    What benefits? hmmm well, our national anthem isnt Deutschland uber alles for a start. We left ze Germans take charge all by ourselves.



    If I wasnt colour blind I would have, and I'm not alone on that score.
    So you are arguing against colonialism being a bad thing by claiming colonialism (by the germans) is a bad thing.


  • #1903
    dirtyden
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    me bolly wrote: »
    You are misinformed. Amin and Mugabe were returning to the way The nations were ruled before the Belgians,French and British moved in namely a supreme ruler.
    When the colonialists left so did stability and prosperity.
    I'd welcome an example of a thriving African country.

    But they were all colonised


  • #1904
    dirtyden
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    me bolly wrote: »
    You are misinformed. Amin and Mugabe were returning to the way The nations were ruled before the Belgians,French and British moved in namely a supreme ruler.
    When the colonialists left so did stability and prosperity.
    I'd welcome an example of a thriving African country.

    And Botswana, colonial backwater in the 60s, now thriving


  • #1905
    kieranfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭kieranfitz


    Colonization by the brits better then ze Germans? yes, or France or Spain for that matter. given those countries past relationships with the Brits and our strategic location it was inevitable that we would get taken over by some one and the brits for all their atrocities committed here were probably the lesser of many evils. It amazes me how people seem to think that we would have been left shrouded in Atlantic mist, unmolested by goings on on the continent.


  • #1906
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    I want to know why Mary Harney and the wimmin politicans get dogs abuse on boards over their weight yet our current Minister for Health James Reilly is never mentioned

    As for Pat Rabitte, he's been obese for years and heading for an early grave

    Ruari Quinn isn't exactly slim either but carries it well but gets away with it
    Joe Costello isn't in top shape himself

    I'm spotting a trend here with Labour politicians

    The only TD I've ever heard about going on a fitness plan was Bertie about ten years ago and he lost a few stone from running.
    And I hear Enda Kenny is into cycling, he's fairly slim

    Double standards for the wimmin


  • #1907
    later12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,298 ✭✭✭✭later12


    kieranfitz wrote: »
    It amazes me how people seem to think that we would have been left shrouded in Atlantic mist, unmolested by goings on on the continent.
    1. like in Switzerland?
    2. You are aware that there was no serious British army presence in the state during WWII, and that we were essentially left untouched?

    People often overstate the wartime tactical importance of Ireland, especially when one considers the loyal population of Ulster as it was in the 20th century, and even a significant preference for British rule amongst the Irish themselves, whose politicians after all had only come 'round to the idea of complete independence during WW1.


  • #1908
    doomsday
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33 ✭doomsday


    Unpopular opinion:
    democracy doesn't work , we need a benevolant tyrant, like the Patrician in Practchetts Disworld books!


  • #1909
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,272 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    I want to know why Mary Harney and the wimmin politicans get dogs abuse on boards over their weight yet our current Minister for Health James Reilly is never mentioned

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=76336909


  • #1910
    dirtyden
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    kieranfitz wrote: »
    Colonization by the brits better then ze Germans? yes, or France or Spain for that matter. given those countries past relationships with the Brits and our strategic location it was inevitable that we would get taken over by some one and the brits for all their atrocities committed here were probably the lesser of many evils. It amazes me how people seem to think that we would have been left shrouded in Atlantic mist, unmolested by goings on on the continent.

    I think you need to check the history of britains occupation of ireland. As a starter maybe try looking up the plantations, famine and partition. None of these were particularly beneficial to us (in my opinion). Perhaps you have a different theory.

    There is no evidence of Germany having any particular strategic interest in ireland in any case.


  • #1911
    later12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,298 ✭✭✭✭later12


    dirtyden wrote: »
    I think you need to check the history of britains occupation of ireland. As a starter maybe try looking up the plantations, famine and partition. None of these were particularly beneficial to us (in my opinion). Perhaps you have a different theory.

    There is no evidence of Germany having any particular strategic interest in ireland in any case.
    Not to mention the fact that we simply don't know what the result of being governed by Germany might have been.

    Somewhere out there in an alternate universe, there may be a bunch of Teutonic Irish people thanking their lucky stars they were colonised by the beautiful, efficient and forward thinking Germans, and not by their bucktoothed, bureaucratic neighbours.

    After all, the Germans look pretty happy with themselves today.


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  • #1912
    dirtyden
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    I want to know why Mary Harney and the wimmin politicans get dogs abuse on boards over their weight yet our current Minister for Health James Reilly is never mentioned

    As for Pat Rabitte, he's been obese for years and heading for an early grave

    Ruari Quinn isn't exactly slim either but carries it well but gets away with it
    Joe Costello isn't in top shape himself

    I'm spotting a trend here with Labour politicians

    The only TD I've ever heard about going on a fitness plan was Bertie about ten years ago and he lost a few stone from running.
    And I hear Enda Kenny is into cycling, he's fairly slim

    Double standards for the wimmin

    That is a good point.

    I can only think of Cowen who got a little abuse for his corpulence.


  • #1913
    psychward
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭psychward


    dirtyden wrote: »
    That is a good point.

    I can only think of Cowen who got a little abuse for his corpulence.

    Thats where Cowen hid our money. He tricked us all into thinking he was a fat sweaty obese bastard but every time he went to the central bank he came out with a heavier belly ;)


  • #1914
    Means Of Escape
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭Means Of Escape


    strobe wrote: »
    Macbeth, Act II, Scene II?

    Unseam him from the nave to the chaps!!


  • #1915
    Means Of Escape
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭Means Of Escape


    dirtyden wrote: »
    And Botswana, colonial backwater in the 60s, now thriving

    Try standing over that statement in 20 years when their diamonds dry up.
    Low population of 2 million people also helps.


  • #1916
    busyliving
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭busyliving


    That Fake Tan is ugly and any women who wears it would really want to sort their lives out...

    And jewellery is the biggest scam on the planet, especially those charms bracelets...

    /rant


  • #1917
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Israel is a illegitimate state and should not be in existence.


  • #1918
    Paddy Cow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    This thread is no where near as interesting as I thought it would be and is infact, quite boring.


  • #1919
    dirtyden
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    me bolly wrote: »
    Try standing over that statement in 20 years when their diamonds dry up.
    Low population of 2 million people also helps.

    The diamonds were there under colonial rule too, it did not help the proverbial man on the street then, but it is now.

    I think you are veering towards the attiude of Africans cannot rule themselves, I could counter that with give some of these recently independent african nations 20-50 years and see where they stand.


  • #1920
    Hibernianeggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 30 ✭Hibernianeggs


    acidskiffle wrote: »
    Hopefully it won't descend into utter chaos.

    I think we both know that that is going to happen.:eek: DUN DUN DUUUUUNN!!


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  • #1921
    Zorbas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭Zorbas


    I would like to rant about people who have the one-liner; "socialism has never worked" and when you ask "do you think capitalism is now working?" the answer comes back; "well at least its better than socialism". All very convincing!!


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