Some Neck Guitars

Stompbox · 18-01-2012 11:16PM #1

Popped in there today with a mate; had never heard of the place before but my mate assured me that there was some delish vintage gear in there and boy howdy, I was licking my lips all the way around that shop. Came down with some serious gas for a blond Gibson ES 335. The €1900 price tag quickly sobered me up though.

happyman81 · 18-01-2012 11:24PM

Nice ad.

CianRyan · 19-01-2012 12:07AM

Really doubt it's an ad seeing a the owner's a long time poster and there's already a thread about the shop.

Stompbox · 19-01-2012 12:56AM

Yeah, if I was involved with a music shop I'd hardly take to selling my old pedals over an internet forum, would I? Just thought it was a neat little place, I guess I shoulda searched before posting. Mods, feel free to lock, I'll dig up the old one!

eoin5 · 19-01-2012 02:03AM

Stompbox wrote: »

Popped in there today with a mate; had never heard of the place before but my mate assured me that there was some delish vintage gear in there and boy howdy, I was licking my lips all the way around that shop. Came down with some serious gas for a blond Gibson ES 335. The €1900 price tag quickly sobered me up though.

My bandmate told me he saw a lovely blonde.. Turns out it was that 335

MilanPan!c · 19-01-2012 09:24AM

Great shop and Owen is a sound guy.

Does a pretty decent trade as well.

Good location + good selection + good guy = a winner

happyman81 · 19-01-2012 10:20AM

I don't see the point to local music shops anymore. Why pay over the odds for gear that you can get cheaper online?

And don't give me that 'customer service' crap. The worst CS I have ever seen was at music shops.

Remember, exceptions never prove the rule.

ednwireland · 19-01-2012 10:30AM

happyman81 wrote: »

I don't see the point to local music shops anymore. Why pay over the odds for gear that you can get cheaper online?

And don't give me that 'customer service' crap. The worst CS I have ever seen was at music shops.

Remember, exceptions never prove the rule.

20 quid more than thomman, guitar checked for faults action setup and lowered (i've bought 2 guitars from my local shop) i'll stick with my local shop (mostly)

and i'd rather not see him close

there are bad shops and bad online retailers (although my one will close when the owner retires and i'll be forced online )

raindog.promo · 19-01-2012 11:33AM

There was a nice music instrument shop I went into the other day above a pub on Capel street. before Godwins if you're walking towards the Liffey. Don't remember the name of it. Nice pleasant guy runs it and I had a great chat with him discussing the various instruments, squeezeboxes, hurdygurdy's whistles and all strange types of instruments (which I love, the odder the more fascinating) ssome very expensive and some very cheap, some childs toys. Planning to go back there and buying some stuff. I don't think it's possible to get them kinds of shops online, although if anyone knows of any I'd be grateful for the address.

For the standard stuff, I do usually buy from thomann or musicstore.de. In my experience they're more reliable and less hassle. A few years back I had a horrible experience with a guitar shop in Tallaght Village (sob story here) and as a result of which I will not make big purchases in small retailers or pay for something that you can't get in your hands as soon as you hand the cash over.

MilanPan!c · 19-01-2012 12:40PM

happyman81 wrote: »

I don't see the point to local music shops anymore. Why pay over the odds for gear that you can get cheaper online?

And don't give me that 'customer service' crap. The worst CS I have ever seen was at music shops.

Remember, exceptions never prove the rule.

I agree is general, the exception is specialty shops. Some Neck is a specialty shop in that it traffics posh and vintage stuff unavailable anywhere else in Dublin. It also provides a needed service for the many people that don't have credit cards, which greatly limits their access to online shopping.

happyman81 · 19-01-2012 01:21PM

MilanPan!c wrote: »

happyman81 wrote: »

I don't see the point to local music shops anymore. Why pay over the odds for gear that you can get cheaper online?

And don't give me that 'customer service' crap. The worst CS I have ever seen was at music shops.

Remember, exceptions never prove the rule.

I agree is general, the exception is specialty shops. Some Neck is a specialty shop in that it traffics posh and vintage stuff unavailable anywhere else in Dublin. It also provides a needed service for the many people that don't have credit cards, which greatly limits their access to online shopping.

Meh, the credit card thing is not really an issue, these days, given Visa debit cards, paypal and what not. The way I see it, if you have three grand to drop on a guitar, then you have the means to buy it online.

Rigsby · 19-01-2012 01:39PM

I have being wondering why he never got his web site up and running. At least you would then have an idea of what's available.

Grolschevik · 19-01-2012 01:41PM

happyman81 wrote: »

Meh, the credit card thing is not really an issue, these days, given Visa debit cards, paypal and what not. The way I see it, if you have three grand to drop on a guitar, then you have the means to buy it online.

I wouldn't drop three grand on a guitar without touching/seeing/playing it first.... Nor would I care that I could get it €50 cheaper online!

Grolschevik · 19-01-2012 01:44PM

raindog.promo wrote: »

A few years back I had a horrible experience with a guitar shop in Tallaght Village (sob story here)

Jesus, man! What happened next? The last installment in the saga was:

I have to go down and make sure for myself, but has anyone here actually seen the shop? If the sheriff doesn't work, I can demand the sum owed me is paid back in installments and if he fails to do that he gets sent to jail for a week until he does pay.
Which would be so sweet at this stage.

Rigsby · 19-01-2012 01:52PM

Grolschevik wrote: »

I wouldn't drop three grand on a guitar without touching/seeing/playing it first.... Nor would I care that I could get it €50 cheaper online!

I can understand your first point, but in my experience the price difference can be a LOT more then that, even when shipping and import tax are taken into consideration.

Grolschevik · 19-01-2012 02:40PM

Rigsby wrote: »

I can understand your first point, but in my experience the price difference can be a LOT more then that, even when shipping and import tax are taken into consideration.

Yeah, the first point is the real point.

(The second point was more that, if I could afford to drop three grand on a guitar right now, I wouldn't let a smallish price difference stop me buying one that I could try out...)

happyman81 · 19-01-2012 03:17PM

Grolschevik wrote: »

Rigsby wrote: »

I can understand your first point, but in my experience the price difference can be a LOT more then that, even when shipping and import tax are taken into consideration.

Yeah, the first point is the real point.

(The second point was more that, if I could afford to drop three grand on a guitar right now, I wouldn't let a smallish price difference stop me buying one that I could try out...)

What if it was five hundred euro (17% cheaper), rather than the strawman fifty euro you presented?

raindog.promo · 19-01-2012 03:35PM

Grolschevik wrote: »

Jesus, man! What happened next? The last installment in the saga was:

I have to go down and make sure for myself, but has anyone here actually seen the shop? If the sheriff doesn't work, I can demand the sum owed me is paid back in installments and if he fails to do that he gets sent to jail for a week until he does pay.
Which would be so sweet at this stage.

According to the sheriff, who eventually found out that the shop was exactly where it should have been, he was given bounced cheques and at one stage I was told that they had recovered around €80. I found the Sheriff's office to be quite unhelpful and very lacksadaisy in their work method. The guy then closed down his business in Dundrum and I was sent back the court order/judgement (I can't remember what it's properly called.) with a stamp saying that no more could be done as the business had closed down. I rang and asked about the €80 or so that they had told me had been recovered and they said they had never recovered any money.

Complete bull****. At the start, some people were encouraging me to just go into the shop and take a guitar off the wall. Others offered to go down and rough the guy up to get the money back, but I said no, that I would do it through legal means; went through all the legal horse**** and red tape and won, yet still got screwed. Great little country we got, eh?

Some form of Karma I guess was that he was fined €5,400 on failure to lodge income tax returns, which was exactly 10 times more what he owed me.

Grolschevik · 19-01-2012 04:36PM

happyman81 wrote: »

What if it was five hundred euro (17% cheaper), rather than the strawman fifty euro you presented?

Yes, and what if it was 80% cheaper? The figure was meant to represent, as I said, a smallish price difference that wouldn't deter me from buying in a bricks and mortar place.

The point remains that I would not drop three grand on a guitar I'd never played, even if one that looked identical was six grand in the shop down the road. I'd just buy a different guitar.

Grolschevik · 19-01-2012 04:40PM

raindog.promo wrote: »

According to the sheriff, who eventually found out that the shop was exactly where it should have been, he was given bounced cheques and at one stage I was told that they had recovered around €80. I found the Sheriff's office to be quite unhelpful and very lacksadaisy in their work method. The guy then closed down his business in Dundrum and I was sent back the court order/judgement (I can't remember what it's properly called.) with a stamp saying that no more could be done as the business had closed down. I rang and asked about the €80 or so that they had told me had been recovered and they said they had never recovered any money.

Complete bull****. At the start, some people were encouraging me to just go into the shop and take a guitar off the wall. Others offered to go down and rough the guy up to get the money back, but I said no, that I would do it through legal means; went through all the legal horse**** and red tape and won, yet still got screwed. Great little country we got, eh?

Some form of Karma I guess was that he was fined €5,400 on failure to lodge income tax returns, which was exactly 10 times more what he owed me.

So no money back, no guitar, and no comeback through the system? FFS.

happyman81 · 19-01-2012 05:11PM

Grolschevik wrote: »

happyman81 wrote: »

What if it was five hundred euro (17% cheaper), rather than the strawman fifty euro you presented?

Yes, and what if it was 80% cheaper? The figure was meant to represent, as I said, a smallish price difference that wouldn't deter me from buying in a bricks and mortar place.

The point remains that I would not drop three grand on a guitar I'd never played, even if one that looked identical was six grand in the shop down the road. I'd just buy a different guitar.

I wouldn't buy a guitar for that price, full stop! Madness.

Grolschevik · 19-01-2012 05:19PM

happyman81 wrote: »

I wouldn't buy a guitar for that price, full stop! Madness.

I'm with you on that. Unless someone else or the Lottery was paying...

raindog.promo · 19-01-2012 05:23PM

Grolschevik wrote: »

So no money back, no guitar, and no comeback through the system? FFS.

Yup, and the reason why I don't do big buys with small business. I know that's unfair to some of them but i think my reasons are fairly justified

MilanPan!c · 19-01-2012 09:24PM

Rigsby wrote: »

I have being wondering why he never got his web site up and running. At least you would then have an idea of what's available.

I def agree with this, but basically, he's the entire business at the moment and everytime I'm in he's up to his eyes busy.

He does update his FB page more frequently, but that's not saying much.

MilanPan!c · 19-01-2012 09:26PM

happyman81 wrote: »

Meh, the credit card thing is not really an issue, these days, given Visa debit cards, paypal and what not. The way I see it, if you have three grand to drop on a guitar, then you have the means to buy it online.

You'd be wrong and it's still an issue to me all the time. I just spent 400 on a delay pedal and had to have a friend pay for it. All the other crap is either not handy for me or has screwed me in the past (eg. Paypal and credit cards)

happyman81 · 19-01-2012 09:36PM

MilanPan!c wrote: »

happyman81 wrote: »

Meh, the credit card thing is not really an issue, these days, given Visa debit cards, paypal and what not. The way I see it, if you have three grand to drop on a guitar, then you have the means to buy it online.

You'd be wrong and it's still an issue to me all the time. I just spent 400 on a delay pedal and had to have a friend pay for it. All the other crap is either not handy for me or has screwed me in the past (eg. Paypal and credit cards)

Perhaps learning to manage a credit card would help there. I'd hate to bother people to use their cards. Honestly, I don't see how such a simple thing can be such a problem?

Rigsby · 19-01-2012 10:30PM

MilanPan!c wrote: »

I def agree with this, but basically, he's the entire business at the moment and everytime I'm in he's up to his eyes busy.

He'd probably be even busier, i.e. get more custom if he got the site going.

Ravelleman · 20-01-2012 12:47AM

You gotsta have a website in this day and age. There's no doubt about it.

Glassheart · 20-01-2012 02:15AM

happyman81 wrote: »

I don't see the point to local music shops anymore. Why pay over the odds for gear that you can get cheaper online?

And don't give me that 'customer service' crap. The worst CS I have ever seen was at music shops.

Remember, exceptions never prove the rule.

You won't find the stuff this guy sells on websites like Thomann.

happyman81 · 20-01-2012 10:32AM

Glassheart wrote: »

happyman81 wrote: »

I don't see the point to local music shops anymore. Why pay over the odds for gear that you can get cheaper online?

And don't give me that 'customer service' crap. The worst CS I have ever seen was at music shops.

Remember, exceptions never prove the rule.

You won't find the stuff this guy sells on websites like Thomann.

I know that. And we all know that vintage websites don't exist.

Miklos · 20-01-2012 10:54AM

He'd do well being linked in with this I'd say - http://www.vintageandrare.com/

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