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Would you wear clothing with the British Flag on it?

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  • #422
    Johnny Foreigner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭Johnny Foreigner


    Clareboy wrote: »
    The British flag is a Christian symbol as it incorporates the flag of St. George, the flag of St. Andrew and the flag of St. Patrick. It symbolises the common Christian heritage of England, Ireland and Scotland, so I cannot understand why anyone would object to or be offended by someone wearing a British flag on their clothing.

    The Irish tricolour is a symbol of peace between the Irish (green), peace (white), Orange (Orange Order Protestants).
    You try telling that to Loyalists in Northern Ireland though.
    You have to respect that what the Union Jack and Tricolour symbolise in Ireland and the UK are different things.
    Sectarianism.
    Just look at a Celtic and Rangers match at Ibrox.
    You will see the modern day meaning of the Union Jack flag.


  • #423
    Stripey Cat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭Stripey Cat


    The USSR doesn't even exist.

    The Crimson Flag still inspires.


    See if you can listen to this (Paul Robeson) without getting teared up: www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2jnX2y30DE


  • #424
    Johnny Foreigner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭Johnny Foreigner


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Oh my God, I've just discovered a very small British flag/label on the inside of my M&S suit jacket :eek:

    Looks for scissors . . . .

    Scissors?
    You need a can of petrol and a lighter.


  • #425
    bwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭bwatson


    Johnny Foreigner wrote: »
    Scissors?
    You need a can of petrol and a lighter.

    Never bought any British products while growing up in London then, did you?


  • #426
    Johnny Foreigner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭Johnny Foreigner


    Kotek Besar wrote: »
    Do you mean you're from London-Derry?

    No, I mean I am London-Irish. Born in London to Irish parents.
    Unlike American-Irish for example, I can't call myself British-Irish due to the history of the conflict between the two.
    We have to call ourselves London-Irish. Manchester-Irish, Liverpool-Irish, Birmingham-Irish; as children of the Irish diaspora.
    Derry is something different.
    People born in Derry are Northern Irish.
    Derry has nothing to do with London, it should not be called any thing other than Derry.


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  • #427
    Kotek Besar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭Kotek Besar


    Johnny Foreigner wrote: »
    Scissors?
    You need a can of petrol and a lighter.

    Wow. You've some hatred for your country of birth and citizenship.


  • #428
    bwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭bwatson


    Nodin wrote: »
    Don't run back to the keyboard with the scissors to answer this, but, in your own time....
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=76592513&postcount=412

    He is under no obligation to answer your question. Who on earth do you think you are?


  • #429
    bwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭bwatson


    Kotek Besar wrote: »
    Wow. You've some hatred for your country of birth and citizenship.

    Interesting that he calls himself Johnny "Foreigner" too.


  • #430
    Agricola
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    Johnny Foreigner wrote: »
    Derry has nothing to do with London, it should not be called any thing other than Derry.

    Doire, perhaps!?


  • #431
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    bwatson wrote: »
    He is under no obligation to answer your question. Who on earth do you think you are?

    Somebody who asked a question.

    Who do you think you are? Just as a matter of interest like...


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  • #432
    blatantrereg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭blatantrereg


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Agreed, my Dad used to tell me about the large support in Dublin for England in the 1966 World Cup, and then the troubles arrived, the poison set in, and everything changed, that is until the las few years (or so I thought) :(



    Fair enough, but would you go to the extreme of hacking off the Union flag from your Reebok trainers? Or peeling off the Union flag from the inside of your motorcycle helmet (because you hate the flag sooo much)?
    No hatred there. It's more like the way I wouldn't wear something saying I was a librarian - just because I'm not a librarian. Or a thing saying my name is John - my name's not John. Or wear a t-shirt with the name of a film I hadn't seen, or band I didn't know much music of....

    I'd just feel silly because it would be misrepresentative. I'd feel like I was portraying myself as being something I'm not.


  • #433
    Cathaoirleach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 701 ✭✭✭Cathaoirleach


    I scratched the "British Made" label off my tin whistle :p


  • #434
    Mikel91
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭Mikel91


    My Girlfriend as a bag that has the Union Jack on it so every time she has it nI blast her with piss!

    Oh god I hope she never sees this hah hah


  • #435
    Johnny Foreigner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭Johnny Foreigner


    bwatson wrote: »
    Is this line really necessary as an introduction for every second post you make?

    Stating that a man should divorce his wife because she brought him back a jumper which he didn't really like also seems a bit extreme. You really come out with some odd things.

    It is entirely relevant to state that I am London-Irish (as it makes people aware I was born in Britain). Therefore one can have the informed perspective from someone who has dual nationality; both British and Irish.
    When discussing national flags, your nationality is of the utmost relevance.
    I would not stop at divorce personally. I would take things further than that.
    I regard it as a personal insult if someone gives an Irish citizen a Union Jack in any form. One has to be sensitive and aware of the history of conflict between Britain and Ireland.
    Would you give an Israeli a t-shirt with a Palestinian flag on it? No.


  • #436
    OpTiMuS Pr1mE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 ✭OpTiMuS Pr1mE


    You did the right thing I would in me bollix wear that.


  • #437
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Cathaoirleach wrote: »
    I scratched the "British Made" label off my tin whistle :p

    It's impossible to get it off oul orange flutes though.


  • #438
    Mollyd90
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭Mollyd90


    no way would I wear it. saying that i wont wear any flag


  • #439
    bwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭bwatson


    Johnny Foreigner wrote: »
    It is entirely relevant to state that I am London-Irish (as it makes people aware I was born in Britain). Therefore one can have the informed perspective from someone who has dual nationality; both British and Irish.
    When discussing national flags, your nationality is of the utmost relevance.
    I would not stop at divorce personally. I would take things further than that.
    I regard it as a personal insult if someone gives an Irish citizen a Union Jack in any form. One has to be sensitive and aware of the history of conflict between Britain and Ireland.
    Would you give an Israeli a t-shirt with a Palestinian flag on it? No.

    Out of interest, why do you have dual nationality?

    You have already suggested that you would take the rather peculiar course of action of burning a marks and spencer suit simply for having a union flag on the inside pocket. This to me suggests a certain level of anger (as well as mental instability). How can you tolerate a British passport?

    The fact that you don't appear to be joking when stating that you "would not stop at divorce personally. I would take things further than that." is also really rather disturbing. All that over a jumper? I hope to god that women have the good sense to steer clear of you.


  • #440
    Johnny Foreigner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭Johnny Foreigner


    Kotek Besar wrote: »
    Wow. You've some hatred for your country of birth and citizenship.

    Yes, I have.
    I hate Britain. I have never felt British despite being born there. I always felt Irish, due to being born to Irish parents; and raised as Irish.
    Children of the Irish diaspora often have this hatred of their country of birth, and become polarised. As we feel we are something different and do not belong to our country of birth; we reject and hate anything associated with it, and embrace anything that relates to our parents nationality.


  • #441
    Luap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭Luap


    Reebok Classics kid!


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  • #442
    Kotek Besar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭Kotek Besar


    Johnny Foreigner wrote: »
    Yes, I have.
    I hate Britain. I have never felt British despite being born there. I always felt Irish, due to being born to Irish parents; and raised as Irish.
    Children of the Irish diaspora often have this hatred of their country of birth, and become polarised. As we feel we are something different and do not belong to our country of birth; we reject and hate anything associated with it, and embrace anything that relates to our parents nationality.

    Reminds me of something else, but that's not for here.


  • #443
    Johnny Foreigner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭Johnny Foreigner


    Agricola wrote: »
    Doire, perhaps!?

    I am prepared to accept that as an alternative.
    Personally I prefer SaorDhoire.


  • #444
    charlemont
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    All Reeboks wearers in Carrick on Suir black the flag out with marker...Well they did years ago anyway.


  • #445
    coyotefitzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 ✭coyotefitzy


    I worked in a high end clothes shop in Cork a few years ago, we got in a load of new stock to be displayed, and in the batch was a wool hat with the Union Jack embroidered on the front. My manager, (She was Scottish) suggested I put them at the back of the rail, and the floor manager (He was Polish) suggested we just put them behind the counter. They went on the display on the floor, hidden behind other hats, there was no issue for me to display & sell them, as I was working in a British chain store.
    I would not buy it or wear it, and I'm guessing it would be the same as asking a Polish person if they would wear something with the German or Russian flag on it.


  • #446
    Kotek Besar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭Kotek Besar


    Johnny Foreigner wrote: »
    I am prepared to accept that as an alternative.
    Personally I prefer SaorDhoire.

    LondainDoire.


  • #447
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Nodin wrote: »
    Don't run back to the keyboard with the scissors to answer this, but, in your own time....
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=76592513&postcount=412

    Well done, a bit of humour from you for once :)

    Quick, back to the barricades . . .


  • #448
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,623 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    charlemont wrote: »
    All Reeboks wearers in Carrick on Suir black the flag out with marker...Well they did years ago anyway.

    Why would somebody buy the damn things in the first place if they're going to do that? :confused:

    Feckin eejits


  • #449
    Johnny Foreigner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭Johnny Foreigner


    bwatson wrote: »
    Out of interest, why do you have duel nationality?

    You have already suggested that you would take the rather peculiar course of action of burning a marks and spencer suit simply for having a union flag on the inside pocket. This to me suggests a certain level of anger (as well as mental instability). How can you tolerate a British passport?

    The fact that you don't appear to be joking when stating that you "would not stop at divorce personally. I would take things further than that." is also really rather disturbing. All that over a jumper? I hope to god that women have the good sense to steer clear of you.

    Duel: Fight.
    Dual: Two.
    I have dual nationality as I was born in Britain.
    I have an Irish passport not a British one. I choose not to avail of the option of a British passport.
    I think for a wife to buy her Irish husband an item of clothing with the Union Jack flag on it is a disgrace. I regard it as a personal insult. During the IRA's bombing campaign in Britain during the 1980's as a child I witnessed the discrimination and prejudice Irish people experienced in London from the English. On public transport the Irish had to hide their accents for fear of abuse. I feel very strongly that people should be aware of the history of conflict between Britain and Ireland. The Union Jack and tricolour flags are symbolic; not just of nationality; but also of sectarianism. One needs to be sensitive about the ramifications of an Irish man wearing a Union Jack flag.
    For the record, I have an Irish girlfriend who respects my views.


  • #450
    bwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭bwatson


    Johnny Foreigner wrote: »
    Duel: Fight.
    Dual: Two.
    I have dual nationality as I was born in Britain.
    I have an Irish passport not a British one. I choose not to avail of the option of a British passport.
    I think for a wife to buy her Irish husband an item of clothing with the Union Jack flag on it is a disgrace. I regard it as a personal insult. During the IRA's bombing campaign in Britain during the 1980's as a child I witnessed the discrimination and prejudice Irish people experienced in London from the English. On public transport the Irish had to hide their accents for fear of abuse. I feel very strongly that people should be aware of the history of conflict between Britain and Ireland. The Union Jack and tricolour flags are symbolic; not just of nationality; but also of sectarianism. One needs to be sensitive about the ramifications of an Irish man wearing a Union Jack flag.
    For the record, I have an Irish girlfriend who respects my views.

    Firstly, I have reported your post for picking up on a spelling error. Secondly, so you don't have dual nationality? You don't have a British passport and evidently don't feel even the slightest attachment to the nation. Why did you lie?

    Thirdly, I find it rather amusing that you would be so unapologetically intolerant of Britain and the Union Flag due to the history of the relationship between the countries, yet you express anger at people on British buses being hostile towards the Irish in the middle of an Irish bombing campaign. Hilarious. Do you not see any sort of comparison there?

    Lastly, I'm just thankful your Irish girlfriend respects your views. Otherwise you may chuck her out, or worse...


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  • #451
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    bwatson wrote: »
    an Irish bombing campaign.

    IRA bombing campaign.

    Bombs don't have a nationality.


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