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Girl allegedly raped on Brazilian Big Brother

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  • #62
    fedor.2.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    It is if you're a stunnah like that.



    This is all wrong, i hope my wife doesnt ask why im laughing, could get awkward


  • #63
    Millicent
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    hondasam wrote: »
    I agree a girl has to accept some responsibility in these situations but if the male is awake and the female is asleep he is more to blame.

    Sorry guys, not saying all men are wrong.

    your comment about the one in kerry, No comment really,

    He is more to blame? MORE to blame? He is all to blame in that situation. Have I woke up in backwards land today, where someone who gives no consent to sex and is not capable of resisting is at fault in a rape?


  • #64
    KeithM89_old
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,806 ✭✭✭✭KeithM89_old


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    It is if you're a stunnah like that.
    Do not post in this thread again.


  • #65
    stoneill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭stoneill


    This is exactly the type of behaviour that reality program producers want to see.
    Just look at the type of programs that are on telly now
    Jersy Shore - Tallfornia - Only way is Essex - BB.
    Each year the programs are pushing the boundaries further and further.
    I think the producers wont be happy until we see an actual murder take place on some "reality" show.

    I am disturbed that an alleged rape happened - but not surprised.


  • #66
    fedor.2.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    jaja321 wrote: »
    It's about context, this thread is about a woman being raped.. I think its inappropriate in such a thread to post her picture which undoubtedly will be comment on.. AH or not.. but hey that's just me:rolleyes:


    Looks that way


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  • #67
    Belly_Dancer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 88 ✭✭Belly_Dancer


    over half of these so-called "victims" who turn up at the DRCC cant even recall having sex, let alone if it was consensual or not.


  • #68
    Frank Black
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    I'm off to bed.

    i've had a couple of glasses of wine, so here's hoping I don't get raped.


  • #69
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Belly_Dancer wrote: »
    i agree, but how stupid of any girl to get so drunk in the first place.
    Belly_Dancer wrote: »
    i'm sorry but any girl that gets so "out of it" must accept responsibility also.
    she'll get little sympathy from me.

    sure wasn't it the same with that one down in Kerry.
    Belly_Dancer wrote: »
    over half of these so-called "victims" who turn up at the DRCC cant even recall having sex, let alone if it was consensual or not.
    Hmmmm...


  • #70
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    jaja321 wrote: »
    It's about context, this thread is about a woman being raped.. I think its inappropriate in such a thread to post her picture which undoubtedly will be comment on.. AH or not.. but hey that's just me:rolleyes:

    It's not a thread about a woman being raped. It's not even a thread about a man being charged for rape. You're jumping the gun big time there.


  • #71
    Shane St.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭Shane St.


    you're all ruining after hours


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  • #72
    stovelid
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    I doubt there was a crew there. Probably just a camera in the room.

    I hope not anyway.


  • #73
    paudgenator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭paudgenator


    hondasam wrote: »
    I agree a girl has to accept some responsibility in these situations but if the male is awake and the female is asleep he is more to blame.

    WHAT?are you serious? So a woman is passed out from drink, drugs, whatever....it's ok for a guy to rape her? Where is her blame in that?


  • #74
    languagenerd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭languagenerd


    Belly_Dancer wrote: »
    over half of these so-called "victims" who turn up at the DRCC cant even recall having sex, let alone if it was consensual or not.

    And what on earth has that got to do with this case? There is video footage, so yeah, she's pretty sure it happened, and yeah, she's pretty sure she didn't give consent.

    Anyway, where are you pulling this "over half" figure from? Do you know them all? Do you regularly seek out and survey rape victims to see if they can recall it?


  • #75
    jaja321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭jaja321


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    It's not a thread about a woman being raped. It's not even a thread about a man being charged for rape. You're jumping the gun big time there.

    An alleged rape so .. still stand by what i say


  • #76
    Da Shins Kelly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    Belly_Dancer wrote: »
    i'm sorry but any girl that gets so "out of it" must accept responsibility also.
    she'll get little sympathy from me.

    sure wasn't it the same with that one down in Kerry.

    There's nothing wrong with getting drunk, there's everything wrong with raping someone. Victims are not to blame in these situations. People are entitled to drink however much they like, nobody is entitled to violate someone just because of that though.


  • #77
    fedor.2.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    paudgenator wrote: »
    WHAT?are you serious? So a woman is passed out from drink, drugs, whatever....it's ok for a guy to rape her? Where is her blame in that?


    Take no notice


  • #78
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Millicent wrote: »
    He is more to blame? MORE to blame? He is all to blame in that situation. Have I woke up in backwards land today, where someone who gives no consent to sex and is not capable of resisting is at fault in a rape?

    He is to blame in that particular situation because we can see what happened.
    I was not just commenting on the situation in the op.
    Rape is rape but every situation is different.


  • #79
    Samich
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭Samich


    Anyone giving out about jokes feck off, stop being such a moany arse mcmoanerson. Your views will never be seen by her or her family, neither will the jokes.


  • #80
    ChunkyLover_53
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    stovelid wrote: »
    I doubt there was a crew there. Probably just a camera in the room.

    I hope not anyway.

    Its live in Rio, I presume there are some sort of 24 hour security guards at the studio. I'd be shocked if it turns out there wasn't.


  • #81
    starbelgrade
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    jaja321 wrote: »
    An alleged rape so .. still stand by what i say

    Stand by what exactly?


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  • #82
    fedor.2.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    hondasam wrote: »
    He is to blame in that particular situation because we can see what happened.
    I was not just commenting on the situation in the op.
    Rape is rape but every situation is different.


    Its worse you're getting


  • #83
    Feisar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,929 ✭✭✭Feisar


    This thread is seriously in the gutter.

    Because of the sensitive nature of the crime people jump to the victims defense. Whereas if a person leaves there car window open and their Nikon camera gets stolen people would be more inclined to say they were stupid/careless.
    A drunk person wanders out a dark road on their own and gets raped, then it's how dare anyone portion some responsibility of the crime to the victim. While the fault/blame must be totally assigned to the person who committed the crime people should not look out for themselves. The world suffers fools badly.

    Before someone says she wasn't wandering the roads drunk I know I've deviated from the circumstances of the situation under discussion.

    Surely these cameras are monitored 24/7. How was this allowed to happen???

    First they came for the socialists...



  • #84
    cursai
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,915 ✭✭✭cursai


    Surprised Big Brother didn't have a televised rape before this.

    Am more shocked that people are still sick and dumb enough to watch this porn.


  • #85
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Some f+cking pond life on this thread. Even for this forum.


  • #86
    Belly_Dancer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 88 ✭✭Belly_Dancer


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-422513/Raped-drunk-does-mean-blame.html

    Liza Kelsey, 26, is a fashion designer. She was raped three years ago by three men after going back to a flat with one of them after a party. Liza, who lives in West London, says:
    The proudest day of my life - the day I finished my course at Central St Martin's College of Art in London - turned into a nightmare when I was raped by three strangers after I got drunk celebrating the end of my degree.
    I still suffer horrific flashbacks to that night - forever haunted by the stupidity of putting myself in such a vulnerable position.
    I still consider myself a feminist and I believe that women deserve the utmost respect, even when they are drunk. But I should never have allowed myself to get in such a state and put myself in such danger. I was a potential victim from the moment I started drinking champagne and vodka.
    It was the evening of the party to mark the end of my four-year fashion degree. I'd had a typical middle class upbringing - my parents run their own business and I went to grammar school before university.
    It had been a great few years and, to celebrate, we were all hell-bent on getting drunk. I had a bottle of champagne before I went out, then countless vodka shots and glasses of beer.
    The next thing I remember is sitting in the back of a cab with a Spanish guy I'd met at the party. I didn't have a clue who he was or where I was going, and I didn't care as long as there was going to be more drink.
    Soon we were at his flat and heading for the bedroom, but - and I'm sorry to say this now -that wasn't a problem: I found him very attractive. But I didn't expect to find two other guys there.
    They turned out to be his flatmates, and as they poured me more drink I started to feel detached, as though everything was happening at arm's length. I don't remember them undressing me, but they must have done because there was no way I would ever have consented to having sex with three men.


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-422513/Raped-drunk-does-mean-blame.html#ixzz1jlGMthKM


  • #87
    RobbingBandit
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    Reminds me of Quagmire on the Bachelorette, where he drugs the girl and drags her off before seeing the cameras, wtf was this guy thinking here, he was on live national/internet tv at the time, what a lunatic.


  • #88
    Samich
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭Samich


    krudler wrote: »
    thats pretty fcuking low, even for AH

    Amazing the high horse riders in this country. I doubt that poster has raped someone or will rape someone. Was a joke.


  • #89
    Millicent
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    hondasam wrote: »
    He is to blame in that particular situation because we can see what happened.
    I was not just commenting on the situation in the op.
    Rape is rape but every situation is different.

    No it's not. Rape is bloody rape. I don't care what the situation is--the victim is NEVER to blame. I am horrified you feel that way. Slut shaming is well and truly alive in Ireland today, it seems.


  • #90
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    krudler wrote: »
    pmcmahon wrote: »
    It is if you're a stunnah like that.

    thats pretty fcuking low, even for AH
    But not surprising. How I predicted this thread would go: focus on her hotness and how one "would" rape her - check, victim-blaming - check.
    There's good jokes poking fun at the situation, but then there's just being a dick.


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  • #91
    fedor.2.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    Im out


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