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  • #812
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,706 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Where were you going to buy it from????

    What's wrong with the board revision???

    Can I has it???


  • #813
    Pyongyang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Where were you going to buy it from????

    What's wrong with the board revision???

    Can I has it???

    Its on Yahoo Japan. Current bid price is €400 plus shipping etc. The B revision is the most saught after as it has Garegga patterns and unlockables on it.

    It's a nice kit with copied art, which is grand but the board revision has to be ver B for me. Price is nice though if you are keen?


  • #814
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,706 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Well the last time I saw it on ebay, I'm pretty sure it sold sub €200. So €400 seems a tad mental!


  • #815
    Pyongyang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Well the last time I saw it on ebay, I'm pretty sure it sold sub €200. So €400 seems a tad mental!

    How long ago was that? €200 is absurdly cheap! I've never seen one for sub-€400.


  • #816
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,706 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    PCBs seem to be going cheapish for the last while on ebay. Sure you saw that Garegga and Donpachi end for crazy cheap recently.

    Here's a Garegga which ended in November for around €200!

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Battle-Garegga-Imported-Japanese-Version-JAMMA-PCB-raizing-/110770014286?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ca68484e

    Batrider was about half way through 2011 I think. Or maybe it was over the summer... it was only a couple of week before you mentioned you wanted to pick one up to me. As I can remember thinking 'oh, I saw that end on ebay recently enough for not too much'

    Should have bid on that fecker. I didn't know it was so rare at the time.

    Oh to be able to travel back to 2006!

    http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?146388-f-s-Armed-Police-Batrider-....-great-shmup-by-Raizing&


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  • #817
    Pyongyang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    Didn't know that. Wow that's absurd, sub €200, was it a full kit version B?

    I actually don't know what I'll do the day I do get that game. Break down sobbing tears of joy, taking occasional breaks to sniff the board as I sob at the same time (think chunk out of The Goonies style sobbing).

    Or just sob because I spent €400 on an amazing game.

    Welcome to Violent City! :D

    Edit: $70? Either the seller was insane or it was a bootleg or not rev B, surely?


  • #818
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,706 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Well, any time you think you've spent alot on a game, just think about that sweater you bought :p

    It was a bare PCB only. I haven't a clue what revision it was..maybe it wasn't the one everyone's after and that's why it went so cheap?

    As for the $70 auction, you'll have to remember that things were different 6 years ago! You'd be really suprised how much cheaper some games were.

    Just got a confirmation that my supergun has been sent :) I really REALLY want to rotate the Trinitron to play some Raiden II.

    It scares me though. It's such a big tv. It's like rotating a really fragile elephant.


  • #819
    Pyongyang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    Have a word with Andrew76. He Yates that CRT of his more times than I've had hot dinners. :)


  • #820
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,706 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Andrew76's CRT is the absolute perfect size and shape for rotation.

    Mine is a bit more unwieldy and comically front heavy. If you sit it down on a surface that's in any way unstable it immediately does a face plant :pac:

    It's so heavy that shifting all the weight from the bottom of the tv (which it was designed for) to the side if it was rotating may in fact destroy itself. Akin to an obese person trying to stand on their baby finger.

    ...

    Great tv though! I'd hate to break it.

    Hmm, does this mean I need a second CRT for vertical games? Dare I?


  • #821
    Pyongyang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Hmm, does this mean I need a second CRT for vertical games? Dare I?

    No. It means get a darn monitor for your cab!

    Missed out on another PCB last night. Sniped on an auction at the last second. Gutted.


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  • #822
    Andrew76
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,556 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Re: Batrider - that $70 auction is depressing seeing the prices now. Rev B or not $70 is a no brainer for that game. Yeah like most things, if we had of been collecting these PCBs years ago when they weren't anywhere near as popular you'd get them silly cheap. I think the few Rev. B Batrider's I've seen for sale were around the €300 mark for the PCB only, never seen a full kit. Mad expensive but then when you see a full DDP BL kit going for €1100 it's just crazy altogether.
    o1s1n wrote: »
    Andrew76's CRT is the absolute perfect size and shape for rotation.

    Mine is a bit more unwieldy and comically front heavy. If you sit it down on a surface that's in any way unstable it immediately does a face plant :pac:

    It's so heavy that shifting all the weight from the bottom of the tv (which it was designed for) to the side if it was rotating may in fact destroy itself. Akin to an obese person trying to stand on their baby finger.

    ...

    Great tv though! I'd hate to break it.

    Hmm, does this mean I need a second CRT for vertical games? Dare I?

    That was the first thing that crossed my mind. Get a smaller 21inch like mine and leave it tated for shmup goodness. If your 29" monster is that unstable and awkward to rotate then I wouldn't bother, leave it horizontal - sure most of your games would be that orientation anyway. Until I can afford an E2 cab my 21" CRT does me perfectly. Some pics of my make shift tate setup :o with Ibara PS2 in action (excuse the mess, office/games room is a kip atm). Modded Dreamcast stick for PCBs/Supergun, Namco for PS2. Has the added benefit of a headphone jack unlike the cab, so can play late at night. :pac:

    ibara1.jpg

    ibara2.jpg

    ibara3.jpg

    /Edit: For all the slagging Adverts gets around here - I got that TV for €30 off it from a sound chap, total bargain for what it lets me play now.


  • #823
    Pyongyang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    Those are very smutty photos Mr. 76! Delightful!


  • #824
    Pyongyang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    So the Akai Katana for Vita rumour was a load of old buttocks?

    https://twitter.com/#!/arcadeotaku/status/157789454449389568

    I've still not pre-ordered my Vita yet. Sales dwindling in .jp and now all this Cave news seeping out this week is lowering my confidence in the device.

    Think I'll wait and see and put my eggs in one, expensive, Batrider full kit basket.


  • #825
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,417 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Can probably live without an inferior handheld port of the game anyway! Rising Star are due to announce their release schedule next week, by the way, so we should get a date for the 360 release.

    Also, just reading back over the Cave business stories, a projected profit of 10 million yen - about 100,000 euro - is a remarkably low margin even if nothing had gone wrong!


  • #826
    Pyongyang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    I wonder if it's a bit of a catch 22 for Cave?

    Microsoft rules and regs stiffed them with regards region locking. The same is happening with Under Defeat HD. PS3 is region free, XBOX 360 is region locked thanks to Microsoft policy.

    I think Rising Star are doing their best to put titles out there, I don't think it's so much that Cave are blinkered. Look at how poorly Deathsmiles 2 did in the USA. No idea what Guwange did globally but I'm assuming it's 'not great'.

    It's a shame really that they've seen fit to go the social route. That said, maybe it's a stop gap? Arcade gaming is dead everywhere outside Japan and it looks like it's on it's last legs in Japan too. But surely, the future can't be purely rubbish social games and touchscreen bullspit can it?

    2012: The year of boring FPS games and touchscreen social bunk. :(


  • #827
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,417 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Pyongyang wrote: »
    2012: The year of boring FPS games and touchscreen social bunk. :(

    Wouldn't go that far. If last year is anything to go by, we will hopefully see as rich a variety again. Like aside from the Cave releases you still had Catherine, Child of Eden, Spacechem, Skyward Sword, Xenoblade, Portal 2, Stacking etc. etc. last year. Indeed, there is the argument that the shmup as a genre (especially Cave games) are the picture of stubborn old-fashioned traditions themselves. To the outsider, what's the difference between Espgaluda II and DDP bar slightly different art. Of course we can spot it, but it's been a long time since Treasure showed up and really kicked the genre's ass innovation-wise.


  • #828
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,706 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    johnny_ultimate wrote: »
    but it's been a long time since Treasure showed up and really kicked the genre's ass innovation-wise.

    You're spot on there.

    Cave Shmups would be grand in a market where there was shmup variety. I'm getting a bit sick of playing them though. We really need some new developers to add something totally different.

    Treasure? Raizing? Toplan?! Where are you?!


  • #829
    Pyongyang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    johnny_ultimate wrote: »
    Indeed, there is the argument that the shmup as a genre (especially Cave games) are the picture of stubborn old-fashioned traditions themselves. To the outsider, what's the difference between Espgaluda II and DDP bar slightly different art. Of course we can spot it, but it's been a long time since Treasure showed up and really kicked the genre's ass innovation-wise.

    True. But then to the outsider, all they think of and anticipate in the years past and ahead are:

    Call Of Duty: Warfare of some description or other
    Halo <insert name/number here>
    Battlefield: Etx something etc
    FIFA <insert year here>
    Something by Rockstar
    An FPS of some description
    Angry Birds
    Facebook

    And that, Mr. U, is the games industry in it's current form.

    I bet you €2.37 that when Catherine is released in a few weeks time, it's a flop. And by flop I mean it hovers around the games chart at number 8 or something. People don't like anything different. Just Facebook, sharing all their personal data and casual touchscreen bunk.

    It's sad to see the industry we love crumble under the weight of utter plop. :(

    You are right though, not just SHMUP's but the industry as a whole needs a kick up the hoop.


  • #830
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,417 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    The reason Catherine will be a flop is because all of us hardcore Persona team fans bought it almost a year ago :P

    But I think it's an exercise in futility looking at is as 'the industry'. I'm a huge fan of arthouse film, and have long since learned to accept that mainstream opinion couldn't care less that A Separation was by a distance the greatest film released last year. Everyone went to see Transformers 3 instead. And I've learned to live with that, the public are frankly a load of gob****es. And just like everyone thinks Oblivion 1.5 aka Skyrim or MW3 are the second coming of Gaming Christ, I am comfortable in the knowledge that there were at least ten games last year many times more innovative, artistic and enjoyable.

    It's true that gaming is an expensive artform to create on. But there'll always be innovators innovating away behind the mainstream, and as long as they are we can let Joe Teenager have his Call of Duty.

    And, it is important to note, that I can totally see from an objective standpoint how people would be repulsed by Cave games, and not just casual gamers.


  • #831
    Pyongyang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    Spot on Mr. U, couldn't have said it any better myself... apart from the Catherine thing. I only didn't buy it because it was region locked. :pac:


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  • #832
    Andrew76
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,556 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Some excellent points Mr. Ultimate. Well, except for Portal 2. I know I'm alone in this but I got it during the Steam Sale recently and it bored me to tears, can't understand how it got game of the year by Eurogamer. Portal was great because it was something fresh, 2 is just a re-hash with bells and whistles.
    johnny_ultimate wrote: »
    It's true that gaming is an expensive artform to create on.

    For mainstream titles yes, but the growth of Indie games in the last half decade or so shows you just need a good idea, bags of talent and some luck - not deep pockets.


  • #833
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,417 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I'm a big fan of Portal 2 because it IMO wasn't a rehash! It took the mechanics of the first and added loads of fantastic twists. The gels alone are ingenious. If you haven't yet, try co-op - some of the mechanics truly burst into glorious life there.

    But yeah, the PC indie industry (and, to a slightly lesser degree, XBLA and PSN) have really allowed innovation to blossom. Just looking at the additions to my Steam library over the last few months - from humble bundles to those cursed and/or beautiful Steam sales - and there's a huge variety of strange, offbeat and highly enjoyable games. And most of them only cost a euro or two!


  • #834
    Pyongyang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    Does anyone have the MMP/PS double pack? I think Greek Mother has it no?

    Question. What's the DLC card for in the pack? BL editions?


  • #835
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,706 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Ah, a Game Paradise PCB. (For those who don't remember, I linked a vid of it ages ago. It's a shmup where you're flying your ship through an arcade)

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Game-Tengoku-Game-Paradise-Jamma-Shmup-/200698994898?pt=UK_Video_Games_Coin_Operated_MJ&hash=item2eba97a0d2

    Not sure what it's worth, but that seems like a decent price.


  • #836
    blag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭blag


    I think the DLC card is for a remix of MMP with PS bosses, but I don't have the game so may be wrong.


  • #837
    Andrew76
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,556 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Pyongyang wrote: »
    Does anyone have the MMP/PS double pack? I think Greek Mother has it no?

    Question. What's the DLC card for in the pack? BL editions?

    I think the DLC has Festival mode that puts the Pink Sweets bosses into the Muchi Muchi Pork levels - but apparently you need a JPN account to use it.


  • #838
    Pyongyang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    Cheers blag and Mr. 76, I'm currently tracking a copy of the limited edition down so wondered if the DLC was worth it. Sounds like it is. :)

    @o1s1n: Saw the same board a few days ago, looks like a sound investment. £100 is about the money at present.


  • #839
    Andrew76
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,556 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Ah, a Game Paradise PCB. (For those who don't remember, I linked a vid of it ages ago. It's a shmup where you're flying your ship through an arcade)

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Game-Tengoku-Game-Paradise-Jamma-Shmup-/200698994898?pt=UK_Video_Games_Coin_Operated_MJ&hash=item2eba97a0d2

    Not sure what it's worth, but that seems like a decent price.

    That exact one, pretty sure it is as the pics are identical, is for sale on AO for £75. Not sure if it's actually still available though.


  • #840
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,706 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Excellent, cheers! just asked the dude is it still for sale.

    I'm totally broke but have wanted that one for a while.


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  • #841
    Andrew76
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,556 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Pyongyang wrote: »
    Cheers blag and Mr. 76, I'm currently tracking a copy of the limited edition down so wondered if the DLC was worth it. Sounds like it is. :)

    I take you're not going the ebay route since those prices are crazy. I know the LE comes with a soundtrack CD but the DLC is no use to you unless you have a Jap Xbox live account? As in I wouldn't pay extra specifically for the DLC.


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