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Why dont our new cars have duel speedometers?

  • 07-01-2012 01:31PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭


    Before we moved from MPH to KPH our cars speedometers were displayed in both, now all the new cars with analog displays only display in KPH. UK cars continue to have both.

    Would have thought sharing a land mass with the UK would have been an arguement for continuing to to this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,871 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    Wasn't it an EU rule that if you had MPH you also had to have KPH?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,270 ✭✭✭✭Paulw


    Because our laws and speeds are in Kph. The UK are still lagging behind with their measurements being non-metric.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,902 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    This is Ireland.:D. Then of course the reverse is true on the commercial side in the UK. Speedometer is kms only:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,590 ✭✭✭theteal


    irish-stew wrote: »
    Before we moved from MPH to KPH our cars speedometers were displayed in both, now all the new cars with analog displays only display in KPH. UK cars continue to have both.

    Would have thought sharing a land mass with the UK would have been an arguement for continuing to to this.

    New cars? My last Irish car was a 05 Focus, it only had KM's on the speedo - it was a little awkward when I initially started splitting my time between the Belfast and Dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,871 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    theteal wrote: »
    irish-stew wrote: »
    Before we moved from MPH to KPH our cars speedometers were displayed in both, now all the new cars with analog displays only display in KPH. UK cars continue to have both.

    Would have thought sharing a land mass with the UK would have been an arguement for continuing to to this.

    New cars? My last Irish car was a 05 Focus, it only had KM's on the speedo - it was a little awkward when I initially started splitting my time between the Belfast and Dublin

    The change occurred on Jan 1 2005


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    I once got stopped by the PSNI for doing 54mph in a 50 zone. I got away with it by showing how I couldn't tell the mph on my km speedo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,849 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    KPH only new cars have been on sale here for the last 7 years. I don't understand what the big issue is being made about needing a speedo with both. I've owed Irish cars with kph only and UK imports with mph/kph, it takes about 10 mins to get used to either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,590 ✭✭✭theteal


    irish-stew wrote: »
    Newer cars in ROI dont display MPH, and I'm simply wondering why considering the two facts I have mentioned.

    manufacturers could give a dixie where we intend on driving and the additional ink involved in adding the extra digits is not cost effective????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,871 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    bazz26 wrote: »
    KPH only new cars have been on sale here for the last 7 years. I don't understand what the big issue is being made about needing a speedo with both. I've owed Irish cars with kph only and UK imports with mph/kph, it takes about 10 mins to get used to either.

    I drive MPH and still read my speed at MPH. So much so, I actually dislike driving KPH cars and vans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,849 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    MugMugs wrote: »
    I drive MPH and still read my speed at MPH. So much so, I actually dislike driving KPH cars and vans.

    People didn't like moving from the Punt to the Euro either but got used it quick enough. They might need to get used to the Punt again but that is for another forum. :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,674 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    irish-stew wrote: »
    This is not a political debate. I'm asking as a driver, and many others like me who drive around this island, and sometimes we drive into another part of the Island that uses MPH. Newer cars in ROI dont display MPH, and I'm simply wondering why considering the two facts I have mentioned.

    My car can display both 10-C car :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,730 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    can you not write on the MPH in tippex if its a serious problem for you?

    Me? well I sort of know the MPH/km/h equivalents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭pippip


    If you have a satnav set it to miles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    Pedantic off-topic posts deleted.

    Move on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    The real question is do European spec left hand drive cars have miles included with the kph?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,157 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    The real question is do European spec left hand drive cars have miles included with the kph?

    No. I have one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,567 ✭✭✭rebel.ranter


    Tone fair there's only a few values you need to be concerned about converting:

    - 30kph
    - 50kph
    - 80kph
    - 100kph
    - 120kph
    Learn those off and you're done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,593 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    In fairness, I cannot fathom why new cars don't have MPH inside KPH like vica versa on pre 2005 cars.

    Wouldn't it just be that simple to do and would also aid people when in the UK ? It's just bloody common sense.


    Another thing that drives me crazy is the trip computer in Fords. It allows you to change between Mile per Gallon and Litres per 100km. However, if you go with Miles per Gallon, temperature is then automatically shown in Fahrenheit :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 170 ✭✭scoobymunster


    What Ford have you? Between various relatives over the last decade I've drove a fair few Fiesta's/Focus/Mondeo/Kugas and haven't experienced that issue?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,734 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    In fairness, I cannot fathom why new cars don't have MPH inside KPH like vica versa on pre 2005 cars. :

    Because there's no need. Our distances are measured in kms, our speed limits are posted in km/h, and our units for fuel are litres.

    Miles and mph have no function in this country.

    Your summons, should you get one for speeding, will also be in km/h... ;)

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    Me, I'm old school and prefer miles and cubic inches! ;)

    In all fairness it's very easy to convert in your head, divide by 10 and multiply by 6.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭Tails142


    Here's one slightly off topic, but its been at the back of my mind for the past while.

    If it's illegal to sell fruit and veg in pounds/ounces, and all signage has to be in metres/kilometres with speedos reading km/hr, then how is dominos pizza getting away with advertising its pizzas in inches?!?

    Go to their website now, you'll see they're advertising a 9.5inch pizza deal :confused:http://www.dominos.ie/Campaign/PDFStoreMenus//27312%20Castleknock.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,674 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    MCMLXXV wrote: »
    Me, I'm old school and prefer miles and cubic inches! ;)

    In all fairness it's very easy to convert in your head, divide by 10 and multiply by 6.


    I always thought it was divide by 8 and multiply by 6 :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Understand peoples explantion that its not too difficult to roughly equate the speed limits if driving up north or in GB, able to do this my self, but still wouldn't want to be done for driving a few MPH over the limit if using just a KPH dial.

    Looks like for now that if I do get a car with just a KPH dial, i'm gonna be using a satnav alot more, now if only that switched from KPH to MPH automatically when crossing the boarder.

    :D
    vectra wrote: »
    I always thought it was divide by 8 and multiply by 6 :confused:

    Always done /10 and x6 as well my self.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    vectra wrote: »
    I always thought it was divide by 8 and multiply by 6 :confused:

    That's coz you're a donkey! :p

    100kmph = 60mph (62 to be exact)

    Divide 100(kmph) by 10 = 10, multiply by 6 = 60(mph). Still slightly off but close enough for daily driving.

    If you did it your way at 100kmph you would theoretically be doing 75mph


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,734 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    galwaytt wrote: »
    Because there's no need. Our distances are measured in kms, our speed limits are posted in km/h, and our units for fuel are litres.

    Miles and mph have no function in this country.

    Your summons, should you get one for speeding, will also be in km/h... ;)

    Because we have a land border with a territory that does use mph.

    Irrelevant. Been to Canada, or the USA ? Grow up.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,593 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    galwaytt wrote: »
    Irrelevant. Been to Canada, or the USA ? Grow up.

    Why is it irrelevant ?

    Yes, I have been to the USA, but I have not driven there. No, I have not been to Canada.

    Why grow up ? What does growing up have to do with anything. Printing an mph scale within the kph scale would add a simple convenience while at the same time costing next to nothing extra.



    On the a similar topic, should all trip computers not have the option to display fuel consumption in miles per gallon considering this country neither designates distance in miles or sells fuel in gallons ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Theanswers


    I agree, as I live quite close to the border.
    It would be no harm to have MPH on the car as well as KPH.

    Part of this island is MPH and therefore it should be displayed in all cars as they may be driving there. Costs nothing and is practical for thoes of us living near Northern Ireland.

    There would be no need for it on mainland europe though, but here were MPH is used less than 20 minutes up the road, its should be on the cars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,721 ✭✭✭Al Capwned


    Divide by 8, mult by 5 gives you a fairly accurate approximation.



    Anyway, Both my car and van have km only speedos.
    But i still find myself thinking 120 = 75mph or 80 = 50 mph etc. even though it has no relevance or importance. People who grew up knowing nothing only miles, will, and do, find it very hard to change - especially the older generation.
    Whereas, younger people who've never known anything but km/h and kph obviously dont have an issue.

    Suppose i can understand now how sh1te it must have been changing to decimal currency for my parents generation.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    More posts deleted/snipped. The next person who gets "politically geographic" with regards to territories either to the north, or on a land mass to our immediate east, will be banned for a week.

    Final warning.


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