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David Fincher's Version - The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    syklops wrote: »
    From the trailer:

    She looks more like Edward Scissorhands lovechild.
    Unlike the original Lisbeth, if I was Mikael Blomkvist, I would kick that out of my bed.

    Making Rooney Mara look unattractive is an impressive makeup department feat, I must admit.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Fascinating article on the editing workflow for the film: http://www.postmagazine.com/Publications/Post-Magazine/2011/November-1-2011/Cover-Story-The-Girl-With-the-Dragon-Tattoo.aspx

    Nerdy 'wow' moment: 400+ hours of RED 5k footage :eek:

    or: They shot a lot of stuff, yo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    http://www.digitalspy.ie/movies/news/a354076/trent-reznor-dragon-tattoo-soundtrack-to-be-three-hours-long.html

    Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross's soundtrack for The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo will be three hours long.
    The Nine Inch Nails
    frontman and Ross have recorded the score.
    Reznor revealed details of the soundtrack on his official website, writing: "For the last 14 months Atticus and I have been hard at work on David Fincher's The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. We laughed, we cried, we lost our minds and in the process made some of the most beautiful and disturbing music of our careers.
    "The result is a sprawling three-hour opus that I am happy to announce is available for pre-order right now for as low as $11.99. The full release will be available in one week - December 9."
    The album will include 39 tracks and be available in several formats: regular and HD digital downloads, to be released December 9, a triple CD released on December 27 and a deluxe version available on February 6.
    Reznor and Ross's cover of Led Zeppelin's 'Immigrant Song' featuring Karen O - which appeared in the film's red band teaser trailer - is included on the soundtrack. It has also been released for purchase via download ahead of the album's release.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭SVG


    I spent the weekend reading the book and listening to the soundtrack sampler (it's here, if it hasn't been linked already) in preparation for the film. I didn't think the book was great but I think it will be a good vehicle for Fincher. It definitely feels like there are some echoes of Se7en, which is a good thing. There's a lot of potential for great visuals and translating the book into a film will cut out all that tedious description (I didn't really feel the need to know what size screen was on her ibooktongue.gif). Rooney Mara definitely looks the part.

    There are a few things I am concerned about though. I thought the Blomkvist character lacked something on the page-
    why does every woman throw herself at him? He doesn't even seem interested in sex, he just goes along with it. And the way he talks to Lisbeth about wanting to be her "friend" and the importance of trust and keeping secrets nearly sounds like he's grooming her!
    - but I think casting James Bond in the role was a good move. Daniel Craig can bring the charisma.

    I'm also wondering about how the Wennerström aspect of the story will be handled. I thought the Vanger part of the story was the most compelling- the Wennerström stuff felt like the soggy bread sandwiched around it. I imagine they'll keep it in for sequel potential but it could dull the ending considerably.

    Anyway, I'm definitely looking forward to it. All the promotional material looks spot on (that first trailer is one of the best I've seen) and the soundtrack sampler is great. I don't know that it'll be a masterpiece but I'm Team Fincher Forever after Zodiac.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,719 ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Fincher said they toned down Blomkvist's promiscuity. The Swedish version did as well.

    David Denby's New Yorker review can be read here. He's very positive, particularly about Mara. Last line:

    "This is a bleak but mesmerizing piece of filmmaking; it presents a chilled view of the world in which brief moments of loyalty flicker between repeated acts of greed and betrayal."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,719 ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    The soundtrack is now on iTunes. All 3 hours of it!

    You can download a 6 track sample here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭Boo Radley


    Interesting viral campaign.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,730 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    Is this out on the 26th?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    Is this out on the 26th?

    According to the posters it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭WatchWolf


    This has gotten amazing reviews. A 75 on metascore and a 94% on Rotten Tomatoes. Can't wait.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    Apparently it's savage, getting really good reviews.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭Renn


    Yeah I was surprised by it. Didn't like the Swedish version at all really so this was nearly always going to be an improvement for me. Slightly dodgy opening credits but things get going nicely after a half an hour or so. Slick and stylish from Fincher, and the score works most of the time - probably better than TSN in that regard. One or two slightly odd changes from the book which irked me a little. 3/4 from me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭WatchWolf


    Renn wrote: »
    Yeah I was surprised by it. Didn't like the Swedish version at all really so this was nearly always going to be an improvement for me. Slightly dodgy opening credits but things get going nicely after a half an hour or so. Slick and stylish from Fincher, and the score works most of the time - probably better than TSN in that regard. One or two slightly odd changes from the book which irked me a little. 3/4 from me.


    What were the opening credits like? I heard they were similar to Casino Royale's.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 livlondon


    Ok,

    I'm afraid to read most of the prior posts but I need to know.

    I'm having an arguement with my partner because from the trailer she thinks that its basically nearly a shot for shot remake of the original including the story etc..

    My point is that Fincher wouldn't be bothered doing that and it is all a rouse that the trailer looks exactly the same as the original. Whereas he has made a very different film content and style wise.

    So is it a very different film or are we going the see the same thing but a 'bit' better?


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,901 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    livlondon wrote: »
    Ok,

    I'm afraid to read most of the prior posts but I need to know.

    I'm having an arguement with my partner because from the trailer she thinks that its basically nearly a shot for shot remake of the original including the story etc..

    My point is that Fincher wouldn't be bothered doing that and it is all a rouse that the trailer looks exactly the same as the original. Whereas he has made a very different film content and style wise.

    So is it a very different film or are we going the see the same thing but a 'bit' better?

    I thought the trailer looked way different to the original. It looks far more stylish and cinematic imo. I actually think this will be a better version.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    I thought the trailer looked way different to the original. It looks far more stylish and cinematic imo. I actually think this will be a better version.

    Yeah my only criticism of the original was that it lacked punch. This looks punchier <-- may not be a word.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    It's not a shot-for-shot remake.

    Of course there are going to be significant similarities - it's the same story after all! - but there have been some narrative changes and obviously the overall style and atmosphere is going to be different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭WatchWolf


    Anyone get to see this yet? Thoughts?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,730 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    Hopefully tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,511 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    Numbers in the US box office are looking bad, it was beaten by MI4 and sherlock holmes and Chipmunks this weekend , This looks like it will quickly turn into no sequals very fast.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,719 ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    It’s early days yet. Certainly too early to be writing its box office obituary as many bloggers are doing. It has strong competition from M:I4 and SH2, plus it’s R-rated and hasn’t been tracking well with women. If word of mouth remains good it should pick up.

    Christmas week is a terrible time to release a film like this. I assume they couldn't get it finished any earlier and wanted it out for Oscar consideration. I seriously doubt anyone on the studio side was expecting an instant hit. There's a reason they don't make films like this anymore.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Definite improvement over the Swedish version in terms of atmosphere and tone. Most of the particularly memorable sequences are handled with real aplomb (serious lulz at the soundtrack choice in the
    torture room
    scenes). Fincher and his DoP / editor mostly do a fantastic job, although there are a handful of scenes that are strangely perfunctory compared to others. I think the score mostly worked well, with only the strange jingly theme reserved for some of the (rare) happier / romantic moments seeming out of place.

    Cast wise, most do a good job, although I wasn't sold on the choice to have everyone speak in Swedish accents. Made some of the quieter scenes hard to understand. But hey, surely people would have complained if they hadn't retained the accent, but the English language / text etc... was actually distracting IMO. Mara was a solid choice, although only really impressed in a handful of scenes (her high pitched wail really makes the
    rape scene
    infinitely more disturbing than the Swedish one). As much as I like her as an actress, though, I'm not sure if she owned it quite as well as Rapace. Craig was grand - actually liked Blomkvist more here than in the book / earlier film. Few of the others get much time to make an impression, but Skarsgard and the fellow playing Bjurman impress.

    The major thing that holds it back from being truly spectacular are a few problems inherited from the book. The first hour is strangely structured, and it all feels like it's just checking the mandatory adaptation boxes. Definitely picks up in the second hour, and as a thriller it has a real violent momentum. Last fifteen minutes, like the book, are messy though. Most of the changes are grand - while initially confused about
    the Harriet reveal (I was still awaiting an Australian diversion as they sat on the bench)
    I guess it makes sense in keeping everything tidier. The reduced role for Cecilia also makes pacing sense. Although thought the Swedish version handled Mikael's daughter subplot more elegantly
    by excising her visit to Helstadt. Here, just like in the book, it feels like a cheap way out of an awkward loose end.
    Overall, it's a fairly loyal, literal remake, and I'll admit to being a bit disappointed Fincher didn't managed to wring any new insight / significant changes out of the material.

    Mostly I liked it: Fincher is certainly the star, even if this is slightly B-Grade material for him. Biggest problem is that it's perhaps too soon for this remake, and the inevitable familiarity of the source material is a problem I guess no-one can solve. As the film ended on an ellipsis rather than a full-stop, I certainly appreciated Fincher's work while not being totally blown by it.

    Re: the opening credits. They may not make a lick of sense in terms of content or even context, but hey it looks nice. You can tell they obviously had a bit of SFX budget left over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭JennyBurke101


    I seen this yesterday in the cinema...I dont know how I feel about it though ...it was good but I think I expected better...but it was still good!!!! The opening sequence was amazing though!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭Renn


    The Bond-esque credits? That was totally out of place imo!

    Oh and apologies for being annoying but this isn't a remake :)


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Renn wrote: »
    The Bond-esque credits? That was totally out of place imo!

    Oh and apologies for being annoying but this isn't a remake :)

    People need to learn the difference between a remake and an adaptation.

    Nothing worse than listening to someone moan about how they can't believe that Hollywood is raping their childhood by remaking films based on books/TV Show/s etc is really getting tiresome. Had to listen to a rant on how remakes are killing Hollywood as the speaker repeatedly referenced the latest version of the Thing completely oblivious to the fact that the Thing was in fact the second adaptation of a "Who Goes There?" by John W. Campbell.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    As nice as the Bond credits looked, they did seem strangely disconnected from the music for a while. When they synched up I think it worked. Out of place though? Certainly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭Renn


    Exactly. This is an adaptation of the book.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    But it's also hard to view it in complete isolation having seen the previous films and read the book.

    Still think the inherent familiarity of the material, and its proximity to the Swedish version, is a problem. While I certainly appreciate Fincher's more intense take on the story (and would have loved if this was adaptation number one), could have personally used a longer gap between adaptations to avoid oversaturation.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    Gonna go and see this tonight. Ive wanted to watch the original for years but just never got around to it. Am i missing out by not having seen it?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Nope. Thought some of the major developments from the book were a bit confused here, though.


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