Any [Dublin] pubs/clubs open tonight [Christmas Day]?

26-12-2011 01:31AM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

By the way, I don't watch TV on Christmas day. It's a tradition we have has at home since I was a child.

I'm sure you use some electricity or gas though.

We do and I believe that the same happens there as does with doctors and guards. That those without families or who prefer not to celebrate the holiday volunteer to work.

randylonghorn · 26-12-2011 01:32AM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

What if their other half is a Garda, a nurse, a doctor , a fireman, ESB employee or other essential staff such as the people keeping the television I'm sure you like to watch on Christmas day on air. It's ok for them to work yeah? but not barstaff? lenty of garages and newsagents open today too. But sure once the precious barstaff have the day off thats all that matters.

Only in Ireland could barstaff be lumped into the same paragraph as "essential staff" / emergency services personnel.

Barkeep, we have a man in withdrawal here! 70 cl. draught Heineken, stat!

Guy:Incognito · 26-12-2011 01:32AM

Deleted User wrote: »

We do and I believe that the same happens there as does with doctors and guards. That those without families or who prefer not to celebrate the holiday volunteer to work.

So in every industry except the pubs, there are staff available to work who dont have families etc. How convenient.

randylonghorn wrote: »

Only in Ireland could barstaff be lumped into the same paragraph as "essential staff" / emergency services personnel.

Barkeep, we have a man in withdrawal here! 70 cl. draught Heineken, stat!

Leaving out essential things such as emergency services, there are plenty of people working today.

I assuemd throwing in the quip about the tv being an essential service showed a distinction but hey, maybe I do need to spell it out with inverted commos or somesuch **shrugs**

26-12-2011 01:36AM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

We do and I believe that the same happens there as does with doctors and guards. That those without families or who prefer not to celebrate the holiday volunteer to work.

So in every industry except the pubs, there are staff available to work who dont have families etc. How convenient.

I'm sure that many pubs would have a similiar situation but in pubs where there are only a handful of employees of which there are thousands around the country twe all know that they would end up being forced to work on the day. In most cases the bar owner wouldn't be forced to give up his family time but his staff would.

Birdie086 · 26-12-2011 01:36AM

randylonghorn wrote: »

Only in Ireland could barstaff be lumped into the same paragraph as "essential staff" / emergency services personnel.

Barkeep, we have a man in withdrawal here! 70 cl. draught Heineken, stat!

post of the day IMO

Guy:Incognito · 26-12-2011 01:39AM

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I'm sure that many pubs would have a similiar situation but in pubs where there are only a handful of employees of which there are thousands around the country twe all know that they would end up being forced to work on the day. In most cases the bar owner wouldn't be forced to give up his family time but his staff would.

Your just going to keep answering like that arnt you? Look. They are provate businesses. Like any other they should be allowed choose whether or not to open Christmas day.

Again, it doesnt seem to have any ill effect in other countries.

26-12-2011 01:41AM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm sure that many pubs would have a similiar situation but in pubs where there are only a handful of employees of which there are thousands around the country twe all know that they would end up being forced to work on the day. In most cases the bar owner wouldn't be forced to give up his family time but his staff would.

Your just going to keep answering like that arnt you? Look. They are provate businesses. Like any other they should be allowed choose whether or not to open Christmas day.

Again, it doesnt seem to have any ill effect in other countries.

If that's the case then banks, tje postal service and every other business that closes for bank holidays should open for them and not offer staff an automatic day off.

Guy:Incognito · 26-12-2011 01:43AM

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If that's the case then banks, tje postal service and every other business that closes for bank holidays should open for them and not offer staff an automatic day off.

They can if they want to. The whole point is that pubs are not allowed even if they wanted to.

AN Post is not a private company btw.

26-12-2011 01:53AM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

If that's the case then banks, tje postal service and every other business that closes for bank holidays should open for them and not offer staff an automatic day off.

They can if they want to. The whole point is that pubs are not allowed even if they wanted to.

AN Post is not a private company btw.

Be interesting to know how many bar staff would want to be able to work Christmas, I imagine the percentage is a lot less than those who don't work in the industry but seem to think the ban on opening is some personnal attack on them.

And let's be honest, in most towns there's at least one pub opened on the day. I know of three people who were asked to work by their boss as the regulars would appreciate being able to get some drinks.

Guy:Incognito · 26-12-2011 01:57AM

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Be interesting to know how many bar staff would want to be able to work Christmas, I imagine the percentage is a lot less than those who don't work in the industry but seem to think the ban on opening is some personnal attack on them.

And let's be honest, in most towns there's at least one pub opened on the day. I know of three people who were asked to work by their boss as the regulars would appreciate being able to get some drinks.

Whether staff want to work is irrelevant.

Private companies should be allowed choose whether they want to open or close.

Not that it matters, but I wouldnt be going to the pub to drink on Christmas day . Doesnt change my stance on the issue though.

As I said. Other countries cope just fine with the pubs being allowed open.

26-12-2011 02:09AM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

Be interesting to know how many bar staff would want to be able to work Christmas, I imagine the percentage is a lot less than those who don't work in the industry but seem to think the ban on opening is some personnal attack on them.

And let's be honest, in most towns there's at least one pub opened on the day. I know of three people who were asked to work by their boss as the regulars would appreciate being able to get some drinks.

Whether staff want to work is irrelevant.

Private companies should be allowed choose whether they want to open or close.

Not that it matters, but I wouldnt be going to the pub to drink on Christmas day . Doesnt change my stance on the issue though.

As I said. Other countries cope just fine with the pubs being allowed open.

Im assuming that the closing is due to some religious significance and as such, as long as Ireland remains a catholic country then the rule can and should be left as it is. I'm not the least bit religious but I do find it immensely sad that a hospital cannot have a crib on display in case it offends nonchristians.

It's just two days a year that pubs closr but for the fuss people kick up you'd swear that pubs were only allowed open two days a year. The queues in off licenses yesterday was ridicolous, passing by one in town and the queue was out the door and a good 15 foot up the road outside. If going two days out of 365 without being able to head to the pub is such an inconvenience to you then you need to reevaluate your life.

As for the whole argument that private businesses should be allowed open on Christmas day then surely public businesses such as an post, the banks, etc should all be opening up on bank holidays. After all why should those of us who want to deposit money, receive a package but put out.

Guy:Incognito · 26-12-2011 02:11AM

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As for the whole argument that private businesses should be allowed open on Christmas day then surely public businesses such as an post, the banks, etc should all be opening up on bank holidays. After all why should those of us who want to deposit money, receive a package but put out.

Theres nothing stopping them opening. Petition the relevant politicians and unions.

Get them all operating 7 days if you want. I'm not goign to oppose it.

Deleted User wrote: »

It's just two days a year that pubs closr but for the fuss people kick up you'd swear that pubs were only allowed open two days a year. If going two days out of 365 without being able to head to the pub is such an inconvenience to you then you need to reevaluate your life..

Irrelevant. Thier business, they should be able to choose.

As for religion. They shouldnt (and certainly not one alone over others) have a say in matters of how the country is run. Just because we were a backwards country in the past doesnt mean that "tradition" should be protected.

Mark200 · 26-12-2011 12:08PM

jimthemental wrote: »

I went through Bondi junction in Sydney today and most of the pubs were closed. Damn religion.

There's a difference between choosing to close and being told that they have to close.

And to the people who make the ridiculous argument "if you can't go 2 days a year without going to the pub blah blah blah",I have absolutely no desire to go to the pub on Christmas day. I have absolutely no problem with pub owners deciding that they want to close on Christmas day. But I do have a problem with a Government that removes that choice in order to adhere to a certain religion.

Imagine the Government said that you couldn't use the internet 2 days a year for religious reasons. I think in that case you might see the stupidity of the arguments such as "If you can't go 2 days a year without the internet".....

It has nothing to do with whether I want to go to a pub, its to do with whether or not a religion should be able to tell me that I can't.

hoody · 26-12-2011 01:02PM

Sullivans Hotel in Gort opens its nightclub from 12 on Christmas night, draws a massive crowd as well. Pubs should be allowed to open every day of the year, let people decide for themselves if they want to go or not.

26-12-2011 07:27PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

As for religion. They shouldnt (and certainly not one alone over others) have a say in matters of how the country is run. Just because we were a backwards country in the past doesnt mean that "tradition" should be protected.

Ireland, no matter how much you despise the fact remains a catholic country and as such certain traditions are upheld. The argument that the country should abandon all it's old traditions so as not to cause offense to any other religion is one that I can't agree with. We rarely see other countries abandoning long held religious tradition or beliefs in order to be more welcoming to other religions so why then should Ireland be forced to hide it's long held traditions. Is a pub being closed that difficult to deal with, it's a tradition that goes back years and is one of the few that is still upheld. If it's such a problem for some then move to another country but I imagine that no matter where you move there is going to be some tradition that annoys you.

Kevin Duffy · 26-12-2011 07:33PM

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Ireland, no matter how much you despise the fact remains a catholic country and as such certain traditions are upheld. The argument that the country should abandon all it's old traditions so as not to cause offense to any other religion is one that I can't agree with. We rarely see other countries abandoning long held religious tradition or beliefs in order to be more welcoming to other religions so why then should Ireland be forced to hide it's long held traditions. Is a pub being closed that difficult to deal with, it's a tradition that goes back years and is one of the few that is still upheld. If it's such a problem for some then move to another country but I imagine that no matter where you move there is going to be some tradition that annoys you.

No it isn't and the rest of your post is just as nonsensical. If I, as an Irish Citizen, born here, from an Irish family, disagree with how something is done in the name of religion, I should move abroad? What shíte.
The right to not have to live by the strictures of a religion I'm not a member of has nothing to do with not causing offence to other religions - I am equally indifferent to all of them and would like to live free of their restrictions.

Sofiztikated · 26-12-2011 07:45PM

Does this "IT'S CLOSED AND THAT'S THE WAY IT IS, ALWAYS HAS BEEN LALALALALALALALALALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU" mentality extend to other services that are actually open on Christmas day?

We were open, and had one of our busiest Christmases yet. Hotel staff still work on Christmas day. Receptionists, waiters, chefs, housekeeping, bar staff, groundsmen.

What is the big deal if, and I say IF, bars are allowed to open on Christmas day? They have the OPTION to open. They don't have to. A lot probably wouldn't, wouldn't be cost effective for them to open. But they would have the choice.

And believe it or not, not all employers are arseholes. Bring in a staff member, and pay them, when it could be done themselves? Are you having a giraffe? If that's the case, then they have no right to complain if business is bad.

Any place I've been working, its usually staffed by senior supervisors/management on the day, because they are salaried, and the rest made up by wage staff.

Out of the last 15 Christmases, I've worked 10. It's normally a year on, year off situation, but I'd normally offer to work for people if they have a younger family.

And this bolox of "We're a catholic country, nothing should ever, ever change." Shove it up your arse. If that was the case, there'd be no contraception. I, for one, like sex without STD's and babbies.

26-12-2011 08:01PM

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

No it isn't and the rest of your post is just as nonsensical. If I, as an Irish Citizen, born here, from an Irish family, disagree with how something is done in the name of religion, I should move abroad? What shíte.
The right to not have to live by the strictures of a religion I'm not a member of has nothing to do with not causing offence to other religions - I am equally indifferent to all of them and would like to live free of their restrictions.

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Does this "IT'S CLOSED AND THAT'S THE WAY IT IS, ALWAYS HAS BEEN LALALALALALALALALALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU" mentality extend to other services that are actually open on Christmas day?

We were open, and had one of our busiest Christmases yet. Hotel staff still work on Christmas day. Receptionists, waiters, chefs, housekeeping, bar staff, groundsmen.

What is the big deal if, and I say IF, bars are allowed to open on Christmas day? They have the OPTION to open. They don't have to. A lot probably wouldn't, wouldn't be cost effective for them to open. But they would have the choice.

And believe it or not, not all employers are arseholes. Bring in a staff member, and pay them, when it could be done themselves? Are you having a giraffe? If that's the case, then they have no right to complain if business is bad.

Any place I've been working, its usually staffed by senior supervisors/management on the day, because they are salaried, and the rest made up by wage staff.

Out of the last 15 Christmases, I've worked 10. It's normally a year on, year off situation, but I'd normally offer to work for people if they have a younger family.

And this bolox of "We're a catholic country, nothing should ever, ever change." Shove it up your arse. If that was the case, there'd be no contraception. I, for one, like sex without STD's and babbies.

Ireland is still for the most part a catholic country, no matter how much you want to argue against that fact. The move abroad remark was in relation to those who view the two days that pubs are closed as some sort of personal attack on them. It's just two days out of 365, big deal. There are far more important things to complain about. If you want to look at countries with truly backward religious beliefs then Ireland is pretty low down on that list. As bad as Ireland is and the backward religious notions of some people at least we don't persecute a woman if she is raped by a man or stone people to death.

Also I never said that nothing should ever change, I for one would welcome a move away from many of the traditionally held beliefs as has been happening over the past few decades. I'm not in the least bit religious but I do find it sad that so many people are being forced to put their beliefs to one side so as to be more accommodating to others. In a local school kids can no longer wish one another merry Christmas in case some people find it offense. They now have to say happy holidays or seasons greetings. Christmas cards have also been banned. It's not an isolated incident either and it is quite sad that we live in a country where people celebrating the most important day in their religion is actively being frowned upon by so many.

Kevin Duffy · 26-12-2011 08:11PM

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Ireland is still for the most part a catholic country, no matter how much you want to argue against that fact. The move abroad remark was in relation to those who view the two days that pubs are closed as some sort of personal attack on them. It's just two days out of 365, big deal. There are far more important things to complain about. If you want to look at countries with truly backward religious beliefs then Ireland is pretty low down on that list. As bad as Ireland is and the backward religious notions of some people at least we don't persecute a woman if she is raped by a man or stone people to death.

When people throw this argument out, do they think that the Catholic Church has a proud record and can criticise other religions attitude to women or that it never raped an harmed thousands of children in its care all over the world?

Deleted User wrote: »

Also I never said that nothing should ever change, I for one would welcome a move away from many of the traditionally held beliefs as has been happening over the past few decades. I'm not in the least bit religious but I do find it sad that so many people are being forced to put their beliefs to one side so as to be more accommodating to others. In a local school kids can no longer wish one another merry Christmas in case some people find it offense. They now have to say happy holidays or seasons greetings. Christmas cards have also been banned. It's not an isolated incident either and it is quite sad that we live in a country where people celebrating the most important day in their religion is actively being frowned upon by so many.

Do a minimum of research, you don't even have to leave AH to do it, and you'll find that this is urban myth.
You'd welcome a move away from some traditions, would you? But not the pub opening one? So you get to decide what traditions change, do you? Eh, yeh, right, good man.

If Catholics want to stay out of the pub on Christmas Day, or any other day, best of luck to them. Shouldn't mean I have to though. Religious adherence is voluntary and shouldn't be enforced.

26-12-2011 08:25PM

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

When people throw this argument out, do they think that the Catholic Church has a proud record and can criticise other religions attitude to women or that it never raped an harmed thousands of children in its care all over the world?

I'm well aware of the churches reputation, I know a number of people who saw the worst of what it has to offer (shooting a documentary on the churches checkered past atm). Why can I as an atheist not criticise any religion I choose, far too many people zero in on teh Catholic church for criticism ignoring the others. I'm an equal opportunity hater.

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

Do a minimum of research, you don't even have to leave AH to do it, and you'll mind that this is urban myth.

I'd best tell that to the teacher who told me how it was policy in their school not to refer to Christmas or allow the kids to. Guess the headmaster's talk to them regrading it took place only in their minds.

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

You'd welcome a move away from some traditions, would you? But not the pub opening one? So you get to decide what traditions change, do you? Eh, yeh, right, good man.

If Catholics want to stay out of the pub on Christmas Day, or any other day, best of luck to them. Shouldn't mean I have to though. Religious adherence is voluntary and shouldn't be enforced.

Again, as it seems that so many people fail to grasp the central idea. Why should bar staff be forced to give up one of their only 2 guaranteed days off in the year so as to serve those who can't go a day without a pint.

Should a devout catholic be forced to spend Christmas day pulling pints while his family stay at home and celebrate without him? For that matter should anyone who has a family or loved ones be forced to spend the day away them just to pull a dew pints?

Soon were going to be living in a country where all tradition has been abandoned and Ireland will lose it's identity. I don't agree with many traditions that the country has but many of them are central to what makes Ireland the country that it is. I bet when weer identical to most other European countries people will be complaining when tourist numbers drop off.

Sofiztikated · 26-12-2011 08:33PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Again, as it seems that so many people fail to grasp the central idea. Why should bar staff be forced to give up one of their only 2 guaranteed days off in the year so as to serve those who can't go a day without a pint.

Again, you are the one not grasping it.

Noone is forcing anyone to do anything, except be closed on Christmas day.

Not everywhere would open.

Business is business.

Why not have the OPTION to open, if you want.

Kevin Duffy · 26-12-2011 08:37PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm well aware of the churches reputation, I know a number of people who saw the worst of what it has to offer (shooting a documentary on the churches checkered past atm). Why can I as an atheist not criticise any religion I choose, far too many people zero in on teh Catholic church for criticism ignoring the others. I'm an equal opportunity hater.

Don't bring up other religion's track records as a reason to observe Catholic tradition then.

Deleted User wrote: »

Again, as it seems that so many people fail to grasp the central idea. Why should bar staff be forced to give up one of their only 2 guaranteed days off in the year so as to serve those who can't go a day without a pint.

It's a while since I worked in that trade, but I do remember getting more than two days off per year. There are also plenty of people working on Christmas Day, they haven't died of it yet.I'd say at least as many, if not more, would be happier with the overtime than the day off.

Deleted User wrote: »

Should a devout catholic be forced to spend Christmas day pulling pints while his family stay at home and celebrate without him? For that matter should anyone who has a family or loved ones be forced to spend the day away them just to pull a dew pints?

Devout Catholic barstaff? Are there many? Should pubs close every Sunday then?

Deleted User wrote: »

Soon were going to be living in a country where all tradition has been abandoned and Ireland will lose it's identity. I don't agree with many traditions that the country has but many of them are central to what makes Ireland the country that it is. I bet when weer identical to most other European countries people will be complaining when tourist numbers drop off.

Tourists are coming here because we close the pubs for two religious holidays a year and will stop coming if we don't? Ha, that's gas

Increasingly stretched arguments going on there

26-12-2011 08:40PM

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Again, you are the one not grasping it.

Noone is forcing anyone to do anything, except be closed on Christmas day.

Not everywhere would open.

Business is business.

Why not have the OPTION to open, if you want.

I do get it, I just find peoples outrage over the fact ridiculous. It's a long held tradition and one which does no harm to anyone. Maybe after we get Christmas Day pub openings the next step can be to abolish bank holidays, something I bet the vast majority of people would be against.

We all know that given the option to open most pubs would and bar staff would be the ones forced to work. I bet if you took a poll of bar staff and asked them if they would like the option of pubs to open On Christmas Day they would mostly vote no. I know numerous bar staff who look forward to the day as it's usually the only day they get off in the last half of December.

Sofiztikated · 26-12-2011 08:47PM

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I do get it, I just find peoples outrage over the fact ridiculous. It's a long held tradition and one which does no harm to anyone. Maybe after we get Christmas Day pub openings the next step can be to abolish bank holidays, something I bet the vast majority of people would be against.

We all know that given the option to open most pubs would and bar staff would be the ones forced to work. I bet if you took a poll of bar staff and asked them if they would like the option of pubs to open On Christmas Day they would mostly vote no. I know numerous bar staff who look forward to the day as it's usually the only day they get off in the last half of December.

Point 1.

There is nothing stopping a business opening or closing on a Bank Holiday. Not one.

Point 2. Utter bolox. And even if (and I say IF) they do work for a number of days in a row, you can be more than guarenteed they a) get paid for it, b) they get their time back when it's quiet and z) hospitality is a service based business. Don't ****ing whinge about being busy when most people are off. It's all part of it! That's when you are busy.

26-12-2011 08:49PM

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

Don't bring up other religion's track records as a reason to observe Catholic tradition then.

Where did I do that? I merely pointed out that in other countries religious beliefs are followed a hell of a lot stricter than over here. As bad as Ireland is at least in this day and age we don't persecute rape victims.

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

It's a while since I worked in that trade, but I do remember getting more than two days off per year. There are also plenty of people working on Christmas Day, they haven't died of it yet.I'd say at least as many, if not more, would be happier with the overtime than the day off.

I said it was the only two days they were guaranteed off each year. Most people get a few bank holidays off a year but for bar staff those are often their busiest and the days everyone is in working.

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

Devout Catholic barstaff? Are there many? Should pubs close every Sunday then?

I'm sure there are many devout Catholics working in Irish pubs and no pubs should not close every Sunday. Christmas Day isn't just another day, for the vast majority of the country it's a day where families come together and spend the day with one another. Forcing many families to not be able to do that simply so that a few pints can be pulled is ridiculous.

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

Tourists are coming here because we close the pubs for two religious holidays a year and will stop coming if we don't? Ha, that's gas Increasingly stretched arguments going on there

At least bother to read the post before jumping in. My point was that one of Ireland's most appealing aspects for tourists are many traditions which have created such a defining image of us as a country. People seem to want Ireland to throw out any uniqueness and s

26-12-2011 08:56PM

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Point 1.

There is nothing stopping a business opening or closing on a Bank Holiday. Not one.

Point 2. Utter bolox. And even if (and I say IF) they do work for a number of days in a row, you can be more than guarenteed they a) get paid for it, b) they get their time back when it's quiet and z) hospitality is a service based business. Don't ****ing whinge about being busy when most people are off. It's all part of it! That's when you are busy.

There is no law stopping them but most simply don't open. I know that bank holidays back home the entire town is pretty much closed down, shops may open for a few hours but the only places doing a roaring business are the puss.

As for your second point, yes they get paid and yes it's part of the job but why should we take away the only day they are guaranteed off during the Christmas period.

as long as Ireland remains a catholic country (and yes it remains one now) I don't see the problem with one of the longest traditions being upheld. Why don't all the people who take offense to the fact that pubs are closed do something about it? Seriously why not get out there and try and have the law changed.

Kevin Duffy · 26-12-2011 08:58PM

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

Don't bring up other religion's track records as a reason to observe Catholic tradition then.

Deleted User wrote: »

Where did I do that?

Eh, here;

Deleted User wrote: »

As bad as Ireland is and the backward religious notions of some people at least we don't persecute a woman if she is raped by a man or stone people to death.

Pass it off as whatever you think you can, but that's the context you brought it up in.

Deleted User wrote: »

At least bother to read the post before jumping in. My point was that one of Ireland's most appealing aspects for tourists are many traditions which have created such a defining image of us as a country. People seem to want Ireland to throw out any uniqueness and s

I did read the post. My observation stands - the idea that tourists come here because we close the pubs on Christmas day is rubbish. If anything, it may well have a negative effect. Christmas break in Dublin when one of its biggest tourist assets will be closed? Er, no thanks.

murrayp4 · 26-12-2011 09:04PM

discus wrote: »

Because you live in Ireland. We have traditions, decades if not centuries old. It doesn't matter if you don't agree with their origins - it's how we do things. Lets be fair, most of our traditions such as no buying alcohol til 12pm sunday, or no pubs on christmas are fairly harmless. It's not how it's done the world over, but who wants a horribly homogenous world anyway?

I don't think the intoxicating liquor acts are 'traditions'...

26-12-2011 09:05PM

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

I did read the post. My observation stands - the idea that tourists come here because we close the pubs on Christmas day is rubbish. If anything, it may well have a negative effect. Christmas break in Dublin when one of its biggest tourist assets will be closed? Er, no thanks.

Again I never said that pubs closing on Christmas Day brought tourists here. I merely pointed out that the way we are going all the traditions which Ireland is renowned far will soon be gone.

If you feel so strongly about Pubs being closed on Christmas day why not try and do something about it rather than complain about it online.

Why don't we simply try to turn Christmas day into just another day of the week for anyone who isn't Catholic. After all it is their day so why do so many of us non-Catholics celebrate it?

Sofiztikated · 26-12-2011 09:06PM

Deleted User wrote: »

There is no law stopping them but most simply don't open. I know that bank holidays back home the entire town is pretty much closed down, shops may open for a few hours but the only places doing a roaring business are the puss.

As for your second point, yes they get paid and yes it's part of the job but why should we take away the only day they are guaranteed off during the Christmas period.

as long as Ireland remains a catholic country (and yes it remains one now) I don't see the problem with one of the longest traditions being upheld. Why don't all the people who take offense to the fact that pubs are closed do something about it? Seriously why not get out there and try and have the law changed.

My point about the bank holidays is exactly that. They have the option to open or not. I don't know what "the puss" are though.

I really don't get what having to have a guaranteed day off over Christmas has to do with it? Honestly, I don't. As I mentioned, I've worked 10 of the last 15 Christmases. I'm still alive.

I assume you are a catholic. Answer me this. Do you use contraception?

EDIT: Actually, **** it. I don't care.

Any [Dublin] pubs/clubs open tonight [Christmas Day]?

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