Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 - Mod Note 4153

Morzadec · 15-12-2011 12:49PM

VW 1 wrote: »

The alternatives are the likes of Torres and Llorente..then the likes of Pedro who is a starter for Barca but has only 15 caps for Spain. Coupled with the likes of Moreno and Bojan in the underage squads as backup, I dont think Villa missing will make a difference to Ireland's chances.

OT but you'd have to say it could make a massive difference. Villa is their main man when it comes to goals and has been for many years.

I'd gladly have our CBs up against Torres, who is terrible at the moment.

Llorente is a very good player, but I'd like to think Dunne could cope with his physical presence.

Soldado is a very good player and could hurt us, Negredo is good too but they're not as proven at international level, and i'd imagine would not have the same kind of understanding with Iniesta, Xavi etc...

It's true they have options and great backup but the loss of Villa will hurt them surely

ASOT · 15-12-2011 12:53PM

Nasty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiFebxoA8XE

Sir Gallagher · 15-12-2011 01:08PM

Why anybody would want to see a video of somebody breaking their leg baffles me.

Crazy Horse 6 · 15-12-2011 01:31PM

mike65 wrote: »

Chelsea deny Torres is for sale at any price.

That's him gone then

amiable · 15-12-2011 01:42PM

Any truth in the rumour that Suarez was to blame for David Villa breaking his leg this morning?

citytillidie · 15-12-2011 01:50PM

mike65 wrote: »

Chelsea deny Torres is for sale at any price.

Chelsea would be mad to sell them and leave themselves with just 1 striker from Mid Jan to Mid Feb.

manual_man · 15-12-2011 01:58PM

citytillidie wrote: »

mike65 wrote: »

Chelsea deny Torres is for sale at any price.

Chelsea would be mad to sell them and leave themselves with just 1 striker from Mid Jan to Mid Feb.

Apparently they have some lad called Lukaku they paid 18 million for

YouTookMyName · 15-12-2011 02:04PM

Well done to Brian Reade for donating a kidney to his son Link

Fair play to Brian. Hope all works out well.

Sappy404 · 15-12-2011 02:10PM

citytillidie wrote: »

Chelsea would be mad to sell them and leave themselves with just 1 striker from Mid Jan to Mid Feb.

As unlikely as they are to sell him, they're even more unlikely to do it in January. Unless, of course, they do a deal with Atletico for Falcao, who AVB knows well, or sign Neymar in the same window.

super_furry · 15-12-2011 02:11PM

Liverpool Echo wrote:

Well done to Brian Reade for donating a kidney to his son Link
Fair play to Brian. Hope all works out well.

YouTookMyName wrote: »

Fair play to Brian. Hope all works out well.

Fair play is right. He must be a big Zelda fan too.

ASOT · 15-12-2011 02:12PM

Sappy404 wrote: »

As unlikely as they are to sell him, they're even more unlikely to do it in January. Unless, of course, they do a deal with Atletico for Falcao, who AVB knows well, or sign Neymar in the same window.

And even more unlikely that will happen as i doubt they will sell falcao 6 months after paying €40 million for him.

noodler · 15-12-2011 04:03PM

niallo27 wrote: »

I think he refused to sign owen because he knew he was finished, which proved correct.

mormank wrote: »

Whoa whoa whoa, when are you talking about? Just before he signed for Utd? Even if Rafa had the option of signing him for a free, which we don't even know he did, then his decision to not sign him was proven to be one of his best decisions! How you can put that solely down to a grudge is beyond me! Absurd.

You have both missed the point entirely. Whether or not Owen was worth taking on a free (which he probably was in fairness since Utd got some value with not huge risk by signing a 2-year deal) is not the issue.

The point is whether or not the fact Owen decided to string along the club for an entire summer and then announced he was leaving not long at all after Rafa joined the club.

You'd have to be some sort of saint not to have been thinking "well you can rot now son" when Owen eventually became a free agent and there was speculation of him joining various clubs.

The exact same point is true for Torres, very hard to believe Kenny (especially considering his love for the club) would not have felt in anyway slighted by the fact Torres wanted to move so soon after he took over (regardless of the previous broken promises by owners).

I don't know what Kenny is thinking right now but I sincerely doubt he has quite the same respect, fondness whatever, that he had for Torres when he first arrived.

Crazy Horse 6 wrote: »

I'm sorry i thought we where talking about Kenny not Rafa.

Lateral thinking mate - you can do it.

Jesus Wept · 15-12-2011 04:25PM

It's his child, sure what else would you be at.

Sappy404 · 15-12-2011 04:35PM

ASOT wrote: »

And even more unlikely that will happen as i doubt they will sell falcao 6 months after paying €40 million for him.

If AVB wants him, I could imagine Torres being a very desirable makeweight in a deal. It would suit all parties.

ASOT · 15-12-2011 04:39PM

Sappy404 wrote: »

If AVB wants him, I could imagine Torres being a very desirable makeweight in a deal. It would suit all parties.

Still couldnt see it happening.

Fan favorite or not i dont their they would be willing to part ex a striker with 12 goals in 9 games for a striker with 3 goals in 25 games.

mormank · 15-12-2011 04:42PM

noodler wrote: »

You have both missed the point entirely. Whether or not Owen was worth taking on a free (which he probably was in fairness since Utd got some value with not huge risk by signing a 2-year deal) is not the issue.

The point is whether or not the fact Owen decided to string along the club for an entire summer and then announced he was leaving not long at all after Rafa joined the club.

You'd have to be some sort of saint not to have been thinking "well you can rot now son" when Owen eventually became a free agent and there was speculation of him joining various clubs.

The exact same point is true for Torres, very hard to believe Kenny (especially considering his love for the club) would not have felt in anyway slighted by the fact Torres wanted to move so soon after he took over (regardless of the previous broken promises by owners).

I don't know what Kenny is thinking right now but I sincerely doubt he has quite the same respect, fondness whatever, that he had for Torres when he first arrived.

Lateral thinking mate - you can do it.

No. The point is that you said that Rafa definitely had a grudge against Owen leading to us not signing him on a free. I have said we don't know that is true at all. You have gone on to say no your missing the point and then explain why you or someone else would hold a grudge against him but have zero proof that Rafa did or that it had anything to do with us not singing Owen. Just because you think there is reason to hold a grudge does not prove anything. You are missing the point.

jenno86 · 15-12-2011 04:44PM

Carroll's £150,000 Loyalty Bonus

So Andy is getting a £150,000 loyalty bonus next month.

Andy Carroll will pick up a staggering £150,000 loyalty bonus from Liverpool next month despite making only 13 starts since his £35million move from Newcastle.
Carroll negotiated the windfall, which will be paid in each year of his contract at Anfield, when he signed last January.
The 22-year-old striker, who has scored only four times for his new club, has a deal worth £60,000 a week basic but he is also paid an additional £10,000 for his image rights and a further £5,000 for each appearance.

Sappy404 · 15-12-2011 04:44PM

ASOT wrote: »

Still couldnt see it happening.

Fan favorite or not i dont their they would be willing to part ex a striker with 12 goals in 9 games for a striker with 3 goals in 25 games.

How about for a fan-favourite previously world-class striker with a point to prove, a European Championship to get picked for and who still shows flashes of brilliance, plus £20m?

kop77 · 15-12-2011 04:45PM

jenno86 wrote: »

Carroll's £150,000 Loyalty Bonus

So Andy is getting a £150,000 loyalty bonus next month.

old news

ASOT · 15-12-2011 04:46PM

Sappy404 wrote: »

How about for a fan-favourite previously world-class striker with a point to prove, a European Championship to get picked for and who still shows flashes of brilliance, plus £20m?

Well true that would be tempting. I would take it if i was being honest if i was the manager but it could be because i have a soft spot for torres and believe he just didnt fit into the way chelsea played!

jenno86 · 15-12-2011 04:49PM

kop77 wrote: »

old news

Oh right! Keep Calm and Carry On!

Sappy404 · 15-12-2011 04:53PM

ASOT wrote: »

Well true that would be tempting. I would take it if i was being honest if i was the manager but it could be because i have a soft spot for torres and believe he just didnt fit into the way chelsea played!

I genuinely think he'll go back to Atletico. It's just a question of when. If he's available as reports have suggested, I'd say it's a strong possibility next year.

As for him returning to Liverpool, I'd love to see it; but £20m is too much of a risk and for various other reasons, none of which require motorbike analogies to explain, it's very unlikely to happen.

ASOT · 15-12-2011 04:55PM

Sappy404 wrote: »

I genuinely think he'll go back to Atletico. It's just a question of when. If he's available as reports have suggested, I'd say it's a strong possibility next year.

As for him returning to Liverpool, I'd love to see it; but £20m is too much of a risk and for various other reasons, none of which require motorbike analogies to explain, it's very unlikely to happen.

Yeye i get what you mean!!

Pretty sure he would liek to finish his career there , im nearly certain reina said the same thing but i could be wrong!

Kess73 · 15-12-2011 05:05PM

ASOT wrote: »

Yeye i get what you mean!!

Pretty sure he would liek to finish his career there , im nearly certain reina said the same thing but i could be wrong!

For some reason I thought that Reina said he wanted to finish his career at Villarreal, but Atletico makes sense too given that his father played for them.

ASOT · 15-12-2011 05:06PM

Kess73 wrote: »

For some reason I thought that Reina said he wanted to finish his career at Villarreal, but Atletico makes sense too given that his father played for them.

Yeah im nearly certain he said he wanted to finish their because of his dad! Would need to look for a quote but its in my head anyway.

Jesus Wept · 15-12-2011 05:07PM

I'd donate two kidneys to Dirk.

argosy2006 · 15-12-2011 05:21PM

The-Rigger wrote: »

I'd donate two kidneys to Dirk.

They would not be a match, And you would end up killing him
Why do you want to kill Dirk,
Why WHY !!! :P

D'Agger · 15-12-2011 05:23PM

The-Rigger wrote: »

I'd donate two kidneys to Dirk.

Give him a good first touch while you're at it :pac:

Jesus Wept · 15-12-2011 05:24PM

argosy2006 wrote: »

They would not be a match, And you would end up killing him
Why do you want to kill Dirk,
Why WHY !!! :P

They would be a perfect match. Anyhow, he wouldn't need them, he is superdirk.

PaulieC wrote: »

Give him a good first touch while you're at it :pac:

I have no idea what you are on about.

AgileMyth · 15-12-2011 05:34PM

The-Rigger wrote: »

I'd donate two kidneys to Dirk.

Whose kidneys?

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