Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 - Mod Note 4153

kop77 · 14-12-2011 08:55PM

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These still make me wet …..

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ASOT · 14-12-2011 08:59PM

kop77 wrote: »

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clearly an expression haha, but the 1st one was by far the best goal i had the privilege of seeing live.

rossie1977 · 14-12-2011 09:04PM

willmunny1990 wrote: »

He was already in poor form when we bought him off Liverpool.

he had 9 league goals in 5 months at liverpool, he has 3 league goals in 11 months at chelsea, look at the goal he scored against blackpool e.g there, that was january of last year, doesn't look to have lost any pace to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyKDjJ3ZTv8

Melion · 14-12-2011 09:11PM

Ah for fúck sake, i promised myself i would come in here and laugh at everyone getting excited about him coming back, i know its not happening so why am i so excited

Dont be at yourself · 14-12-2011 09:11PM

I don't want him back. What remains of his career should be left to fester, as an example to other players who think they'll get the support and adoration that they get at Anfield anywhere else. Maybe Torres's unhappy experience will make Suarez realize what he may give up if Chelsea or Man City come in with a bid in 18 months time.

Besides that, the sums don't add up. 25 million pound + crazy wages could get us much more bang for our buck than Torres. We'd be looking at Cavani, Llorente, Soldado, Podolski, perhaps even Higuain or Villa may be available. They make much more sense, and gel in much more with the owners' direction than going for Torres. Unless it's some sort of loan deal or seriously cut price, it doesn't make sense to me.

If he comes back, fine. I'll hope he gets his form back and scores a tonne of goals. But I won't be singing the Torres song or planning on naming my firstborn son Fernando, like I used to!

YouTookMyName · 14-12-2011 09:14PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9XdMvas2HA

Back when we were the most feared time in europe good times.

kop77 · 14-12-2011 09:23PM

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Revolution9 · 14-12-2011 09:24PM

I prefer this

OldmanMondeo · 14-12-2011 09:36PM

On Torres, I was as pissed off as most when he left, but "IF" he was to come back, I think the system we now play would suit him and he would have a better chance to find the form he had under Rafa.

With saying that, do I think Kenny would bring him back, just like he did with Rushy, probably not.

tommyhaas · 14-12-2011 09:46PM

Dont be at yourself wrote: »

I don't want him back. What remains of his career should be left to fester, as an example to other players who think they'll get the support and adoration that they get at Anfield anywhere else. Maybe Torres's unhappy experience will make Suarez realize what he may give up if Chelsea or Man City come in with a bid in 18 months time.

Besides that, the sums don't add up. 25 million pound + crazy wages could get us much more bang for our buck than Torres. We'd be looking at Cavani, Llorente, Soldado, Podolski, perhaps even Higuain or Villa may be available. They make much more sense, and gel in much more with the owners' direction than going for Torres. Unless it's some sort of loan deal or seriously cut price, it doesn't make sense to me.

If he comes back, fine. I'll hope he gets his form back and scores a tonne of goals. But I won't be singing the Torres song or planning on naming my firstborn son Fernando, like I used to!

Torres flopping thus far at Chelsea will have zero effect on other players decisions to stay or go IMO. Plenty have left and been successful elsewhere, they could just as easily look at Alonso or Masch

Of the above listed alternative's, how many are realistic? Noneif any IMO

noodler · 14-12-2011 09:49PM

Yeah, I want him back but I think Kenny is way too proud to consider it.

tok9 · 14-12-2011 09:53PM

Get on the hype wagon!

I don't care if he's been out of form, I want him back! He's had a pretty rough time at Chelsea but even when he was playing poor for us he still got goals.

Bring him back Kenny!

Dont be at yourself · 14-12-2011 09:54PM

tommyhaas wrote: »

Torres flopping thus far at Chelsea will have zero effect on other players decisions to stay or go IMO. Plenty have left and been successful elsewhere, they could just as easily look at Alonso or Masch

Of the above listed alternative's, how many are realistic? Noneif any IMO

Higuain's out of favour with Madrid, Podolski looks set to move in the summer, as he's stalling over a new deal. Cavani might be tempted, seeing as we have Suarez and Coates. Llorente and Soldado won't be on mega bucks and neither club is in a position to refuse big money bids.

They may be optimistic, but I'd rather try for them than settle for an injury-prone, out-of-form, sulking past-it. And that's ignoring all the massive baggage surrounding his time at the club and the manner of his departure.

In the cold light of day, with the 2 year old memories of the old Fernando Torres put aside, the 2012 Fernando Torres is not worth the risk or the hassle.

Crazy Horse 6 · 14-12-2011 10:03PM

noodler wrote: »

Yeah, I want him back but I think Kenny is way too proud to consider it.

Nonsense Kenny will do what's best for the club, his ego never will never come into it.

Knex* · 14-12-2011 10:05PM

Dont be at yourself wrote: »

Higuain's out of favour with Madrid, Podolski looks set to move in the summer, as he's stalling over a new deal. Cavani might be tempted, seeing as we have Suarez and Coates. Llorente and Soldado won't be on mega bucks and neither club is in a position to refuse big money bids.

They may be optimistic, but I'd rather try for them than settle for an injury-prone, out-of-form, sulking past-it. And that's ignoring all the massive baggage surrounding his time at the club and the manner of his departure.

In the cold light of day, with the 2 year old memories of the old Fernando Torres put aside, the 2012 Fernando Torres is not worth the risk or the hassle.

Now Podolski is a player I would absolutely love to see in a Liverpool shirt. He was hopeless when he left Koln the 1st time for Bayern but he has been in good form this year and last, looks to have a lot more about him.

Could really see him doing well in the PL and could form a good partnership with Suarez or Carroll.

tommyhaas · 14-12-2011 10:10PM

Dont be at yourself wrote: »

Higuain's out of favour with Madrid, Podolski looks set to move in the summer, as he's stalling over a new deal. Cavani might be tempted, seeing as we have Suarez and Coates. Llorente and Soldado won't be on mega bucks and neither club is in a position to refuse big money bids.

They may be optimistic, but I'd rather try for them than settle for an injury-prone, out-of-form, sulking past-it. And that's ignoring all the massive baggage surrounding his time at the club and the manner of his departure.

In the cold light of day, with the 2 year old memories of the old Fernando Torres put aside, the 2012 Fernando Torres is not worth the risk or the hassle.

A lot of them will in all likelihood have more attractive offers though, ie CL football. What I would hope is that the club look at players like these though, as oppose to focusing on Premiership proven English players

Turtyturd · 14-12-2011 10:21PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

he had 9 league goals in 5 months at liverpool, he has 3 league goals in 11 months at chelsea, look at the goal he scored against blackpool e.g there, that was january of last year, doesn't look to have lost any pace to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyKDjJ3ZTv8

Up until the Wolves goals none of those goals were taps ins and he still looked world class...WTF did Chelsea do to him.

noodler · 14-12-2011 10:33PM

Crazy Horse 6 wrote: »

Nonsense Kenny will do what's best for the club, his ego never will never come into it.

Aha, don't so be naive.

djPSB · 14-12-2011 10:34PM

I don't think Owen was as a good as Torres. I'd put Torres and Fowler on level par. However, all their careers seem to be following a similar path, prolific when they were younger and their careers faded around the age of 27. They were most successful when they were at Liverpool and never reached the same heights with another club.

I don't think Chelsea will let Torres leave, I am still undecided whether I would welcome him back or not. He brought some great memories to our club.

Our best team over the last few years had a back bone of Reina, Carragher, Mascherano, Alonso, Gerrard and Torres. The only one that features in the team on a regular basis now is Reina. We would still challenging for titles only for H&G dismantled the squad, and we are now very much a team in transition.

Crazy Horse 6 · 14-12-2011 10:58PM

noodler wrote: »

Aha, don't so be naive.

Nothing naive about it at all.

Outkast_IRE · 14-12-2011 11:03PM

With regards to Torres a great saying comes to mind

"Start wide, expand further, and never look back."
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............Arnold Schwarzenegger

tommyhaas · 14-12-2011 11:18PM

Outkast_IRE wrote: »

With regards to Torres a great saying comes to mind

"Start wide, expand further, and never look back."
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............Arnold Schwarzenegger

Didn't he also say something else? Specifically about coming back??

meercat · 14-12-2011 11:20PM

willmunny1990 · 14-12-2011 11:32PM

I felt Torres played his best with Gerrard behind him.

Their is no chance of that partnership happening again since Gerrard is a crock now.

Alonso is also gone so Torres if he were to move back he would be joining up with a significantly weaker Liverpool side than the one he played his best football with.

SlickRic · 14-12-2011 11:34PM

Christ Almighty, this is all getting waaaaaayyyyyyyyyy out of hand.

Outkast_IRE · 14-12-2011 11:55PM

tommyhaas wrote: »

Didn't he also say something else? Specifically about coming back??

yeah but they keep killing him once he comes back , hes a persistant bugger.

monkey9 · 15-12-2011 12:06AM

Why waste 20 odd million on Torres. The bloke made his decision and he can live with it. You just don't leave Liverpool for Chelsea!!

I'd rather see the money spent on the likes of Roberto Soldado of Valencia, someone who is actually capable of scoring on a regular basis!

noodler · 15-12-2011 12:25AM

Crazy Horse 6 wrote: »

Nothing naive about it at all.

Managers hold grudges. They are people.

It is naive of you to think Kenny would not be affected in the slighest by such things.

Rafa certainly was when he refused to sign Owen on a free.

manual_man · 15-12-2011 12:32AM

noodler wrote: »

Crazy Horse 6 wrote: »

Nothing naive about it at all.

Managers hold grudges. They are people.

It is naive of you to think Kenny would not be affected in the slighest by such things.

Rafa certainly was when he refused to sign Owen on a free.

Rafa was Rafa

niallo27 · 15-12-2011 12:58AM

noodler wrote: »

Managers hold grudges. They are people.

It is naive of you to think Kenny would not be affected in the slighest by such things.

Rafa certainly was when he refused to sign Owen on a free.

I think he refused to sign owen because he knew he was finished, which proved correct.

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