Munster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

durkadurka · 12-12-2011 08:06PM

I think it's actually love between them. They just haven't found a way to express it yet.

Flincher · 12-12-2011 08:08PM

thomond2006 wrote: »

It's great to hear that POM is only out for 2 weeks, had it been a broken jaw it could have been 5/6.

2 weeks off for a cracked jaw :rolleyes:

Sure Mike Mullins scored the best try ever and his jaw was in pieces, barely bluetacked together

durkadurka · 12-12-2011 08:11PM

Flincher wrote: »

2 weeks off for a cracked jaw :rolleyes:

Sure Mike Mullins scored the best try ever and his jaw was in pieces, barely bluetacked together

We were poor in the old days. Young folk these days dont know they're born.
By gum.

thomond2006 · 12-12-2011 08:12PM

With Borlase back, you'd wonder how long Hayes will be kept on.

Fireball07 · 12-12-2011 08:12PM

Flincher wrote: »

2 weeks off for a cracked jaw :rolleyes:

Sure Mike Mullins scored the best try ever and his jaw was in pieces, barely bluetacked together

Yeah but Mike Mullins was made of cement.

durkadurka · 12-12-2011 08:13PM

thomond2006 wrote: »

With Borlase back, you'd wonder how long Hayes will be kept on.

Didnt they sign him to end of jan?

Benny Cake · 12-12-2011 08:31PM

thomond2006 wrote: »

With Borlase back, you'd wonder how long Hayes will be kept on.

I wouldn't put to much meas in Borlaise just yet, Archer may yet turn out to be Bothas backup..

ed7890 · 12-12-2011 08:50PM

Cpt_Blackbeard wrote: »

I know that it is a pointless point to make but, does anyone think we would have seen DOC2.0 making the squad had he not picked up that injury a few weeks ago. It lookedlikehe was being introduced into the setup at the start of the season and he was registered for the HC too.

I thought DOC2.0 looked good when he played this season. Where do you think he would play though, has he got the attributes to be a great backrow player? He'll be a long time waiting to get into the second row, too many players there all ready.

PhatPiggins · 12-12-2011 08:57PM

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

Scarlets are one of the most dangerous teams we could play, they know a win would give them back the group and they have a backline that could really damage us. I'm sure we can win, but I'm not confident of it.

Never underestimate the other team , yadda yadda

We'll hammer the Scarlets and they know they've thrown the group away. 13 in a row soon to be 14 in a row. Scarlets really are the great white hype of Welsh rugby.

Thats not bing cocky or arrogant thats just a fact. Scarlets have four good players and 11 pretenders that the Welsh press have completely over blown

Fireball07 · 12-12-2011 08:59PM

PhatPiggins wrote: »

Never underesimate the other team , yadda yadda

We'll hammer the Scarlets and they know they've thrown the group away. 13 in a row soon to be 14 in a row. Scarlets really are the great white hype of Welsh rugby.

Thats not bing cocky or arrogant thats just a fact. Scarlets have four good players and 11 pretenders that the Welsh press have completely over blown

4 good players?? Bit over the top...

If the Scarlets come to Munster and throw everything at us, it's not impossible that they would win. And that would put them back in pole position. I refuse to get any bit cocky until we actually have beaten them.

twinytwo · 12-12-2011 09:07PM

Fireball07 wrote: »

4 good players?? Bit over the top...

If the Scarlets come to Munster and throw everything at us, it's not impossible that they would win. And that would put them back in pole position. I refuse to get any bit cocky until we actually have beaten them.

It will take some team to beat us at home in the HC.... scarlets is not that team

GerM · 12-12-2011 09:20PM

PhatPiggins wrote: »

Never underestimate the other team , yadda yadda

We'll hammer the Scarlets and they know they've thrown the group away. 13 in a row soon to be 14 in a row. Scarlets really are the great white hype of Welsh rugby.

Thats not bing cocky or arrogant thats just a fact. Scarlets have four good players and 11 pretenders that the Welsh press have completely over blown

He speaks the truth. Hugely hyped on the back of one win which was handed to them. They could have put out their first choice back line 6 months ago and people would have yawned and dismissed them. Even 3 months ago. Even if they had Stoddart in there they're only an above average back line. Since when have people started considering the likes of Lamont, Gareth Davies and Liam Williams top class players? Toulouse are a great back line. Leinster 5 years ago were a great back line. Scarlets are a back line that love to throw the ball around and play a high risk game. It doesn't mean they're great, just entertaining. Their pack are, at the very best, an average Pro12 pack. Leinster, Munster, Ospreys, Cardiff, Ulster, Glasgow and possibly Treviso are all better in the forwards for me.

Munster should take them apart in Thomond with room to spare.

phog · 12-12-2011 09:49PM

Some pics from the A game in Tralee. From Munsterrugby.ie

PhatPiggins · 12-12-2011 10:26PM

GerM wrote: »

He speaks the truth. Hugely hyped on the back of one win which was handed to them. They could have put out their first choice back line 6 months ago and people would have yawned and dismissed them. Even 3 months ago. Even if they had Stoddart in there they're only an above average back line. Since when have people started considering the likes of Lamont, Gareth Davies and Liam Williams top class players? Toulouse are a great back line. Leinster 5 years ago were a great back line. Scarlets are a back line that love to throw the ball around and play a high risk game. It doesn't mean they're great, just entertaining. Their pack are, at the very best, an average Pro12 pack. Leinster, Munster, Ospreys, Cardiff, Ulster, Glasgow and possibly Treviso are all better in the forwards for me.

Munster should take them apart in Thomond with room to spare.

Thank you good sir and in my own defence I said the exact same thing proir to the game in Parc y Scarlets

Lets be honest, Munster played at about 70% and beat them away. If they can get that up to around 85% they'll beat them by 12 plus in Thomond

Cpt_Blackbeard · 12-12-2011 10:49PM

phog wrote: »

Some pics from the A game in Tralee. From Munsterrugby.ie

Nagle looks to have bulked up massively.

CiaranMT · 13-12-2011 12:50AM

PhatPiggins wrote: »

Thank you good sir and in my own defence I said the exact same thing proir to the game in Parc y Scarlets

Lets be honest, Munster played at about 70% and beat them away. If they can get that up to around 85% they'll beat them by 12 plus in Thomond

Also consider that we have no Fla, Wally, Keet, Felix or Dougie.

porterbelly · 13-12-2011 01:25AM

Cpt_Blackbeard wrote: »

Nagle looks to have bulked up massively.

+1

GerM · 13-12-2011 08:47AM

CiaranMT wrote: »

Also consider that we have no Fla, Wally, Keet, Felix or Dougie.

Reports this morning that Earls could be involved. Be a decent run out for him if he got 30 minutes of rugby against the Scarlets and is fully fit for the final pool games.

wixfjord · 13-12-2011 08:58AM

durkadurka wrote: »

I think it's actually love between them. They just haven't found a way to express it yet.

We're currently exploring interpretive dance!

Fireball07 · 13-12-2011 02:54PM

GerM wrote: »

Reports this morning that Earls could be involved. Be a decent run out for him if he got 30 minutes of rugby against the Scarlets and is fully fit for the final pool games.

Hope that's true.

PhatPiggins · 13-12-2011 03:47PM

Cpt_Blackbeard wrote: »

Nagle looks to have bulked up massively.

He's going to look good in a Northampton/Leinster/Castres jersey in 18 months time

Cpt_Blackbeard · 13-12-2011 04:25PM

PhatPiggins wrote: »

Cpt_Blackbeard wrote: »

Nagle looks to have bulked up massively.

He's going to look good in a Northampton/Leinster/Castres jersey in 18 months time

Have there been rumours about Castres being interested?

totallegend · 13-12-2011 04:55PM

Cpt_Blackbeard wrote: »

Have there been rumours about Castres being interested?

Have there been rumours (other than on boards.ie) about Leinster?

I dunno, in 18 months time, DOC and MOD will be long past their sell-by date, so if Nagle still hasn't developed enough to be backup to POC and Ryan, then he's not going to be up to it at those other clubs either...

Cpt_Blackbeard · 13-12-2011 05:33PM

totallegend wrote: »

Have their been rumours (other than on boards.ie) about Leinster?

I dunno, in 18 months time, DOC and MOD will be long past their sell-by date, so if Nagle still hasn't developed enough to be backup to POC and Ryan, then he's not going to be up to it at those other clubs either...

I don't think there really have to be any solid rumours about Leinster being interested in Nagle to assume that they are. Leinster can't produce a decent lock and Nagle can't get gametime for his province. Leinster have also had great success in signing IQ players in positions where they have obvious weaknesses.

Nagle is the best young lock in the country but, he is struggling for gametime behind the international team's (current) top 3 locks and MOD who was probably 5th in line going into the WC. If he moved to Leinster, he could have comfortable ambitions of being a first choice HC lock for (one of) the best team(s) in Europe within 12 months.

Couple that to the IRFU's preference for keeping promising Irish players in the country and it seems obvious.

phog · 13-12-2011 05:44PM

Not sure of when this was taken, just saw the link on twitter so I assume it's recent. Good to see both back in the field and hopefully Earls will make either the A Game or the H/Cup this week-end.

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phog · 13-12-2011 06:01PM

From Munsterrugby.ie

We want to hear from you - and if you give us some feedback you will be in with a chance to win a pair of hospitality tickets to the Munster v Castres Heineken Cup game in Thomond Park in January.

Poor enough survey but some here might be interested in completing it, if for no other reason than being in with a shout for the hopitality tickets.

totallegend · 13-12-2011 09:54PM

Cpt_Blackbeard wrote: »

I don't think there really have to be any solid rumours about Leinster being interested in Nagle to assume that they are. Leinster can't produce a decent lock and Nagle can't get gametime for his province. Leinster have also had great success in signing IQ players in positions where they have obvious weaknesses.

Nagle is the best young lock in the country but, he is struggling for gametime behind the international team's (current) top 3 locks and MOD who was probably 5th in line going into the WC. If he moved to Leinster, he could have comfortable ambitions of being a first choice HC lock for (one of) the best team(s) in Europe within 12 months.

See, my problem is that I haven't seen that much of Nagle; as more of a Munster die-hard, you'll have a better idea of where he is in terms of development, but I can only go on the fact that he is behind POC, DOC and Ryan (no shame in that) but also apparently behind MOD, Holland and Foley as well. I don't see how you go from that to possible first choice for Leinster in 12 months. If he gets significant game time during the 6N window, then great but at the moment he's just another young guy with potential and no real outlet to demonstrate it. Besides, if he's as good as you say, Munster will not let him go, given the age profile of their second row.

Cpt_Blackbeard wrote: »

Couple that to the IRFU's preference for keeping promising Irish players in the country and it seems obvious.

Maybe, but surely then Connacht is the most likely? If Cullen retires this season and Sykes does not pan out, then Leinster will look abroad again.

profitius · 13-12-2011 09:58PM

totallegend wrote: »

See, my problem is that I haven't seen that much of Nagle; as more of a Munster die-hard, you'll have a better idea of where he is in terms of development, but I can only go on the fact that he is behind POC, DOC and Ryan (no shame in that) but also apparently behind MOD, Holland and Foley as well. I don't see how you go from that to possible first choice for Leinster in 12 months. If he gets significant game time during the 6N window, then great but at the moment he's just another young guy with potential and no real outlet to demonstrate it. Besides, if he's as good as you say, Munster will not let him go, given the age profile of their second row.

Maybe, but surely then Connacht is the most likely? If Cullen retires this season and Sykes does not pan out, then Leinster will look abroad again.

I've not seen much of him either but from what I've seen he is a good defender and ball carrier and good in the lineout. I'm not sure how good he is at the dark arts of forward play though. He seems to have bulked up a bit so that would help.

irishbucsfan · 13-12-2011 10:10PM

If Nagle has bulked up mid season it absolutely makes sense why he isn't involved more. He must be on a much fuller programme than the others, who would just be doing lighter work during the season. Generally players can only put on mass during the offseason or else they'll vastly increase the risk of injury etc.

Cpt_Blackbeard · 13-12-2011 10:34PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

If Nagle has bulked up mid season it absolutely makes sense why he isn't involved more. He must be on a much fuller programme than the others, who would just be doing lighter work during the season. Generally players can only put on mass during the offseason or else they'll vastly increase the risk of injury etc.

That's the hope anyway. In the 3rd picture here he looks big enough to be involved in top level Heineken and Intl rugby. Although training with DOC everyday in Cork is probably great, it would probably be beneficial for him to move to Limerick for a while so that he gets to train with POC every day rather than just twice a week. With the way POC is playing, you'd think that the more time Nagle (any lock/forward really) spends with him, the better it'll be for his development.

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