Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 - Mod Note 4153

G.K. · 12-12-2011 10:32PM

daithijjj wrote: »

We have supposedly signed 16yr old Jordan Ibe from Wycombe for a fee of 500k, he will stay with them and join the club in the summer.

I live in Wycombe and can safely say he's incredibly well regarded by folk down here. Really good potential.

Jesus Wept · 12-12-2011 10:54PM

More ****ty ref decisions give Chelsea 3 points.

Phoenix Park · 12-12-2011 10:54PM

Disappointing result at the Bridge for us

5starpool · 12-12-2011 10:58PM

Phoenix Park wrote: »

Disappointing result at the Bridge for us

Disappointing? It was terrible. There is a real gap developing now. We really need to put a string of wins together for the first time this season.

12-12-2011 11:02PM

Chelsea will probably kick on now and take top 4.

Spurs and Arsenal are probably the realistic targets and we are 3rd favs there.

Tusky · 12-12-2011 11:11PM

I think this is the most likely top 6 based on performances so far.

Man City
Man Utd
Spurs
Chelsea
Arsenal
Liverpool

Leiva · 12-12-2011 11:11PM

Im calling it now ....

We will get 6th

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 12-12-2011 11:13PM

Tusky wrote: »

I think this is the most likely top 6 based on performances so far.

Man City
Man Utd
Spurs
Chelsea
Arsenal
Liverpool

Man City
Man Utd
Chelsea
Spurs
Liverpool
Arsenal

I think the gunners are more vulnerable than we are and Chelsea will take Spurs over time.

Of course, the Jan transfer window will probably chance all that.

niallo27 · 12-12-2011 11:15PM

5starpool wrote: »

Disappointing? It was terrible. There is a real gap developing now. We really need to put a string of wins together for the first time this season.

Well city are playing arsenal next week and Chelsea are playing spurs soon, so someone is going drop points, a few wins on the bounce and we ll be right up there.

Tusky · 12-12-2011 11:15PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Man City
Man Utd
Chelsea
Spurs
Liverpool
Arsenal

I think the gunners are more vulnerable than we are and Chelsea will take Spurs over time.

Of course, the Jan transfer window will probably chance all that.

You could be right about Chelsea/Spurs but definitely dont agree regarding Arsenal.

Leiva · 12-12-2011 11:18PM

Tusky wrote: »

You could be right about Chelsea/Spurs but definitely dont agree regarding Arsenal.

As injuries and squad impact goes if VPersie gets injured they are worse off than us without Lucas .

Tusky · 12-12-2011 11:20PM

mixednuts wrote: »

As injuries and squad impact goes if VPersie gets injured they are worse off than us without Lucas .

We are ****ed without Suarez. And I also think the hole left by Lucas will become extremely apparent in the bigger games. Also, not having a goal scoring CF is a major problem.

12-12-2011 11:21PM

Anything can happen, it's very early days. Spurs lose two and we win two and we are above them.

Arsenal are heavily reliant on RVP. If he goes off form or gets injured they might struggle.

Chelsea weren't our target before the season started, it was Arsenal/Spurs. Will probably end up like that.

Long way to go.

kop77 · 13-12-2011 12:27AM

...

Steven Gerrard is hoping to make his Liverpool comeback in time for the New Year.

The Reds captain returned to light training last week after spending five weeks on the treatment table following an ankle infection sustained at the end of October.

Gerrard had targeted this Sunday's visit to Aston Villa as his original return date, affirmed by the club's initial announcement that their talismanic skipper would be missing for a fortnight.

The 31-year-old was ruled out of action for six months after undergoing two rounds of groin surgery following his participation in last season's win over Manchester United in March.

It resulted in Gerrard making his lowest number of appearances for the club in all competitions since forcing his first-team breakthrough during the 1998-99 campaign

An infection at the end of July prolonged his rehabilitation by a further two months, putting paid to plans for a comeback in a pre-season friendly against Valencia in the process.

Since his return in the Carling Cup win over Brighton in September, Gerrard made substitute appearances against Wolves and Everton before netting in his first start, again against United.

Another 90-minute outing followed seven days later against Norwich before he was sidelined with this latest infection, which required immediate surgery and a protective cast.

But he is now expected to feature in Liverpool's final fixture of 2011 against Newcastle United on December 30, which will end his injury-plagued year on something of a positive.

The timing of Gerrard's return will help aid Kenny Dalglish's selection headache in filling the void left by Lucas Leiva's season-ending injury, picked up against Chelsea last month.

Jordan Henderson partnered Charlie Adam for Saturday's win over Queens Park Rangers but is likely to be restored to the right-wing as Liverpool face a gruelling January schedule.

Three meetings with Manchester City, in the Premier League and Carling Cup semi-final respectively, await the Anfield outfit as do away trips to Bolton and Wolves.

Liverpool, meanwhile, have also been given additional time to respond to the Football Association's charges relating to last Monday's defeat at Fulham.

Luis Suarez, who scored against QPR on Saturday, was charged with improper conduct after he displayed an offensive hand gesture towards the Craven Cottage fans following the game.

Dalglish was also charged with failing to control his players after referee Kevin Friend claimed he felt intimidated following Jay Spearing's instant dismissal in his report of the 1-0 reversal.

budgemook · 13-12-2011 12:35AM

5 points isn't a gap. City were 5 points ahead yesterday, now look.

We certainly need to improve but it's not too late. If we start converting f**king chances we will win loads of game on the bounce.

F**king Andy Carroll...

argosy2006 · 13-12-2011 12:41AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Anything can happen, it's very early days. Spurs lose two and we win two and we are above them.

Arsenal are heavily reliant on RVP. If he goes off form or gets injured they might struggle.

Chelsea weren't our target before the season started, it was Arsenal/Spurs. Will probably end up like that.

Long way to go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6W_Uen5gxY

ShamoBuc · 13-12-2011 12:47AM

budgemook wrote: »

5 points isn't a gap. City were 5 points ahead yesterday, now look.

We certainly need to improve but it's not too late. If we start converting f**king chances we will win loads of game on the bounce.

F**king Andy Carroll...

You might want to go through the squad and how many goals each player has scored - the spread is a fúcking joke - highlighting Andy is a bit rich, we do not play to his strenghts - that's well known. There are many others not putting the ball in the net.

Jesus Wept · 13-12-2011 12:50AM

He also hasn't been on the pitch in the last couple of games? Or in many games for us generally.

argosy2006 · 13-12-2011 12:53AM

Our next big game is 3rd Jan, play Man City away, But We get to play teams below us up to then,
But we need to beat these teams to give us a chance , No excuses not to beat Wigan, Blackburn and Newcastle at Anfield,
And hopefully Villa on Sunday,

We are running out of excuses, Finishing is poor, Loads of chances ,but half ones ,
We never really cut teams apart and walk it into net ,

I think we would have atleast 6 more pts on table if Meiriles was still our player,
We miss those goals from midfield !!!!

Mr Alan · 13-12-2011 12:57AM

The-Rigger wrote: »

He also hasn't been on the pitch in the last couple of games? Or in many games for us generally.

And generally tbh, when he has he's done well recently.

Important goals against Everton & West Brom back to back for instance.

Mr Alan · 13-12-2011 12:58AM

argosy2006 wrote: »

Our next big game is 3rd Jan, play Man City away, But We get to play teams below us up to then,
But we need to beat these teams to give us a chance , No excuses not to beat Wigan, Blackburn and Newcastle at Anfield,
And hopefully Villa on Sunday,

We are running out of excuses, Finishing is poor, Loads of chances ,but half ones ,
We never really cut teams apart and walk it into net ,

I think we would have atleast 6 more pts on table if Meiriles was still our player,
We miss those goals from midfield !!!!

How many goals did he get last season?

How many before Jan?

How many has Adam & Henderson gotten this season so far?

argosy2006 · 13-12-2011 01:00AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

How many goals did he get last season?

How many before Jan?

How many has Adam & Henderson gotten this season so far?

He got a few under kenny, When we changed how we played,
that's all i know , i have no stats

budgemook · 13-12-2011 01:01AM

ShamoBuc wrote: »

You might want to go through the squad and how many goals each player has scored - the spread is a fúcking joke - highlighting Andy is a bit rich, we do not play to his strenghts - that's well known. There are many others not putting the ball in the net.

No. He was bought as our goal scorer. 20 goal a season man or what have ya. I'm not blaming him. Just the whole situation really. The player we bought should be banging them in by now. He hasn't played because he isn't playing well and doesn't fit the system. Bad choice. Wrong choice. Waste of money.

Mr Alan · 13-12-2011 01:06AM

argosy2006 wrote: »

He got a few under kenny, When we changed how we played,
that's all i know , i have no stats

He got 5 goals and 5 assists last season (his most productive season ever).

Adam already has 2 goals & 4 assists this season & his general play has been much better.

We're not really missing Meireles at all tbh. Adam has been excellent for us, better than Meireles in the midfield role.

We're missing Carroll chipping in with a few more regularly, Suarez being a touch more clinical & a couple of goals from wide men, IMO.

budgemook · 13-12-2011 01:10AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

He got 5 goals and 5 assists last season (his most productive season ever).

Adam already has 2 goals & 4 assists this season & his general play has been much better.

We're not really missing Meireles at all tbh. Adam has been excellent for us, better than Meireles in the midfield role.

We're missing Carroll chipping in with a few more regularly, Suarez being a touch more clinical & a couple of goals from wide men, IMO.

Agree with you here. Would like to still have Meireles for cover but we're alright without him.

However, the last sentence could be understatement of the year.

"a few"

"a touch"

"a couple"

Mr Alan · 13-12-2011 01:14AM

budgemook wrote: »

Agree with you here. Would like to still have Meireles for cover but we're alright without him.

However, the last sentence could be understatement of the year.

"a few"

"a touch"

"a couple"

Well I'm not expecting us to hockey the opposition in every game, generally we're playing well & tbh we're only a 'touch' away from where we wanna be, so yea, I think those small things would push us that step further we want/need.

budgemook · 13-12-2011 01:25AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Well I'm not expecting us to hockey the opposition in every game, generally we're playing well & tbh we're only a 'touch' away from where we wanna be, so yea, I think those small things would push us that step further we want/need.

Yeah but Suarez's accuracy is shockin, Carroll's goal return is shockin and the wingers goal returns are shockin!

Kess73 · 13-12-2011 01:26AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Well I'm not expecting us to hockey the opposition in every game, generally we're playing well & tbh we're only a 'touch' away from where we wanna be, so yea, I think those small things would push us that step further we want/need.

Inch by inch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rFx6OFooCs

Jesus Wept · 13-12-2011 01:30AM

budgemook wrote: »

Yeah but Suarez's accuracy is shockin, Carroll's goal return is shockin and the wingers goal returns are shockin!

Your posts are shockin!

Tusky · 13-12-2011 02:05AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

And generally tbh, when he has he's done well recently.

Important goals against Everton & West Brom back to back for instance.

Back to back? Are you forgetting the games against Stoke and Norwich in-between? (there was also the game against United but he didnt feature)

We badly need a clinical goal scoring centre forward.

Andy Carroll was bought to be our clinical scoring centre forward.

He is not doing it.

I'm not saying he that is the only reason for our failings, but he is probably the main one to be honest. If he was banging them in it would solve the majority of our problems.

Pos. Player Goals Team
1 Robin van Persie 15 Arsenal
2 Wayne Rooney 11 Manchester United
2 Sergio Agüero 11 Manchester City
2 Demba Ba 11 Newcastle United
5 Edin Dzeko 10 Manchester City
6 Yakubu Aiyegbeni 9 Blackburn Rovers
7 Emmanuel Adebayor 8 Tottenham Hotspur
7 Mario Balotelli 8 Manchester City
9 Daniel Sturridge 7 Chelsea
9 Ivan Klasnic 7 Bolton Wanderers
9 Frank Lampard 7 Chelsea
12 Rafael van der Vaart 6 Tottenham Hotspur
12 Jermain Defoe 6 Tottenham Hotspur
12 Heidar Helguson 6 Queens Park Rangers
12 Grant Holt 6 Norwich City
12 Steven Fletcher 6 Wolverhampton Wanderers
12 Javier Hernández 6 Manchester United
12 Steve Morison 6 Norwich City
19 Luis Suarez 5 Liverpool

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