Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 - Mod Note 4153

Mr Alan · 07-12-2011 01:02AM

It's as reasonable as the nonsense Rooney claimed.

(Do you have a link for that btw, it was my understanding the FA did nothing about it, ie. Rooney didn't have to make up a stupid excuse as they brought no action against him)

tommyhaas · 07-12-2011 01:04AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

In that case Suarez needs to just say he was pointing out the lovely moon to the Fulham fans in case they missed it.

Case closed.

Its quiet possible they hadn't noticed it with Carra' not playing

Blatter · 07-12-2011 01:09AM

copacetic wrote: »

Hardly, Suarez was clearly pointing to this teeth, which the Fulham fans were suggesting needed a bit of work, which they were offering help with. He was just making sure they meant his teeth rather than his nose. Clear cut.

Cool. I'm sure Suarez will explain that one to the FA and they'll believe him.

Mr Alan wrote: »

It's as reasonable as the nonsense Rooney claimed.

(Do you have a link for that btw, it was my understanding the FA did nothing about it, ie. Rooney didn't have to make up a stupid excuse as they brought no action against him)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1385063/Wayne-Rooney-hot-water-appearing-swear-Chelsea-fans.html

A Manchester United spokesman denied that Rooney had sworn at fans, however, suggesting he was actually pointing to his eyes because of what he thought was a bad decision.

The bit about it being over the Ivanovic foul, I saw in The Sun, so I won't post that link here. It doesn't take much to find it in a google anyway.

I don't know if Rooney was telling the truth or not, but at the very least it does sound like a pretty reasonable defense.

K-9 · 07-12-2011 01:13AM

Morzadec wrote: »

Suarez scored a really well taken goal last night so that statistic about not scoring in 7 doesn't really show the full picture. It wasn't an easy chance, I thought he took it superbly, can hardly blame him for it being ruled out

Carroll scored a goal and had an assist ruled out earlier in the season for not that much. Linesmen and ref calls will go against players, part of the game I'm afraid.

Not scoring in 7 is the fact, the rest is excuses.

People here expected 15-20 goals this season each and it doesn't look like either will get it.

daithijjj · 07-12-2011 01:48AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/euro2000/teams/england/790657.stm

Jesus Wept · 07-12-2011 03:24AM

Kess73 wrote: »

An actual Carroll back to Newcastle rumour has been doing the rounds for two months now. One or two local journos in Liverpool have mentioned it along with the rumoured price. Put it up in here some time ago, and again when the discussion was about Carroll not settling.

Same journo that is backing this rumour is the one that said that Gerrard had no chance of making it back in three games time waaay back when the club made that announcement about him being back after the first international break. And the same guy said that the statement by the club on the 2nd or 3rd of Novemeber that claimed that Gerrard was doing well and would be back sooner rather than later was rubbish.

The fact that the club has again come out at the start of this month and said that he will yet again be back sooner rather than later pretty much backs up what was said, and I passed on that rumour back in the old super thread, so I am tending to give the journo the benefit of the doubt over Carroll.

Be a very crappy way for Gerrard's career to wind down if it is just injury time after injury time until the end. Personally I hope that he can get a sustained run of fitness towards the end of his career, but I have a feeling that won't happen and that his time as a regular has already passed thanks to his injuries of this and last season in particular.

What was the rumoured price?
If the club are talking nonsense about Gerrard, why?

wrote:

If all PL woodwork strikes this season had been goals, Liverpool would be just 4 points behind Man City

OptaJoe.

mike65 wrote: »

Hmm thats one of those stats, I presume if other teams woodwork shots went in something similar would happen, esp Newcastle.

It says all.... not all Liverpool's, all premier league.
Aside from some disappointments, mostly Downing, we are running bad. It's not something most people are capable of processing.

cson · 07-12-2011 03:49AM

Not to rain on your parade The-Rigger but woodwork hits ain't on target. A foot off they may be but it's a shot off-target all the same.

I do understand what you mean though, they are unlucky, afaik we [Arsenal] would have won the league last year had all our woodwork shots been inside the posts.

mormank · 07-12-2011 06:02AM

cson wrote: »

Not to rain on your parade The-Rigger but woodwork hits ain't on target. A foot off they may be but it's a shot off-target all the same.

I do understand what you mean though, they are unlucky, afaik we [Arsenal] would have won the league last year had all our woodwork shots been inside the posts.

Not the same thing tho is it? If arsenal had of scored all their chances that hit the post is not the same as if everyone's chances that hit the post went in. It show that if we can get more clinical while keeping every other aspect of our game the exact same that we would be in second or if we could do it form now at least we would move up in the table.

Spurs are looking ominous. Way too early to start predicting things tho like this or that team is definitely gonna make top 4 or not, well except of course the manchester teams I guess but you know what I mean.

Sappy404 · 07-12-2011 09:44AM

I heard recently that Stephen Fletcher has a better goals-to-minutes ratio than Javier Hernandez this season.

I hope FSG weren't listening.

killwill · 07-12-2011 09:49AM

cson wrote: »

Not to rain on your parade The-Rigger but woodwork hits ain't on target. A foot off they may be but it's a shot off-target all the same.

I do understand what you mean though, they are unlucky, afaik we [Arsenal] would have won the league last year had all our woodwork shots been inside the posts.

Just to add to this too, if the ball was another foot inside the post alot of them would also be saved by the keeper so stats like that are absolutely ridiculous to go by.

Jesus Wept · 07-12-2011 09:55AM

killwill wrote: »

Just to add to this too, if the ball was another foot inside the post alot of them would also be saved by the keeper so stats like that are absolutely ridiculous to go by.

You've confirmed my point.

danniemcq · 07-12-2011 10:01AM

daithijjj wrote: »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/euro2000/teams/england/790657.stm

sweet jesus the BBC site was an ugly page, looks like some american fan site with those colours

El Inho · 07-12-2011 10:23AM

he was simply placing his ring back on his finger...all over now..thanks for worrying FA

El Inho · 07-12-2011 10:35AM

so...how we gonne start now without spearo?

what bout

reina

johnsons----skrtle

agger

enrique

adam--hendo

downing

shelvey

bellamy

suarez

or would you bring in kuyt and try bellamy in the centre maybe? or slip maxi into the centre?

seems like a shout to give shelvey a go...like its a win win....he gets the chance to play due to squad shortages...much like flanno and robinson last year.

so if it doesnt work...he's too young..if it does work and he keeps up his bpool form...we've got a nice little player on our hands.

danniemcq · 07-12-2011 10:44AM

do we get the chance to appeal that red as it was a straight red?

El Inho · 07-12-2011 10:47AM

we can appeal....

i think two straight reds have been rescinded this year...i could be wrong?

the video footage shows it was a pretty good tackle...

cant help but feel pictures like this don't help his case....

like that does look a nasty nasty tackle...so i dunno

VW 1 · 07-12-2011 11:03AM

Surely a video would be used and not a picture so how nasty the tackle does or doesnt look is irrelevant.

On first watching I thought it was a great tackle, on the slower replay I thought ok maybe its a yellow because the follow through was high. Never ever was it a red card though.

Should definitely be appealed and imo, overturned.

El Inho · 07-12-2011 11:06AM

VW 1 wrote: »

Surely a video would be used and not a picture so how nasty the tackle does or doesnt look is irrelevant.

On first watching I thought it was a great tackle, on the slower replay I thought ok maybe its a yellow because the follow through was high. Never ever was it a red card though.

Should definitely be appealed and imo, overturned.

personally im the same....and i believe that video is only used...

im just saying from that picture...theres a lot of boot on leg.

The Chessplayer · 07-12-2011 11:20AM

opr wrote: »

Team - Belford, Hatch, Smith, Rafferty (c), Regan, Aylmer, Sterling, Pelosi, Morgan, Sumner, Lussey

This lad Irish? The next big thing for the boys in green?

opr wrote: »

3-0 down now. I don't understand why we didn't drop down players like Suso, Wisdom etc like we have done in other years for this competition.

Agreed. I would like to see Andy Carroll get a chance too.

opr wrote: »

Coady
Shelvey

---Suso
Adorjan
Ngoo

Both Shelvey goals supposedly came from two cracking freekicks.

First Ngog, now Ngoo???
Shelvey is such a good player. I hope he at least gets a place on the bench this weekend.

rarnes1 wrote: »

Or, just support both players like a proper fan.

Should we have supported Paul Konchesky too? Would that make us proper fans like you? Carroll is completely out of place at Liverpool, he reminds me of the pony-tailed pimp character that Harvey Keitel plays in Taxi Driver.

kop77 · 07-12-2011 11:23AM

I see Gary Cahill's won his appeal against his red card at the weekend, if we have appealed we should have word by Friday I suppose.

VW 1 · 07-12-2011 11:30AM

The Chessplayer wrote: »

First Ngog, now Ngoo???
Shelvey is such a good player. I hope he at least gets a place on the bench this weekend.

Not forgetting Amoo

Sappy404 · 07-12-2011 11:55AM

eldwaro wrote: »

like that does look a nasty nasty tackle...so i dunno

The argument has been made that it wasn't even a tackle, more of a 50/50 as Dembele didn't have the ball and Spearing wasn't going in the player's direction. That said, I think it depends on the official line in the match report. While his winning the ball is evidence that he wasn't just going out to hurt Dembele, things like excessive force and recklessness are in the eye of the beholder, so it's pretty much at the referee's discretion whether he's guilty or not.

The Chessplayer wrote: »

he reminds me of the pony-tailed pimp character that Harvey Keitel plays in Taxi Driver.

He looks more like an early-70s Dave Gilmour:

07-12-2011 11:55AM

The Chessplayer wrote: »

Should we have supported Paul Konchesky too? Would that make us proper fans like you? Carroll is completely out of place at Liverpool, he reminds me of the pony-tailed pimp character that Harvey Keitel plays in Taxi Driver.[/IMG]

Proper fans like me? What you talking about? The XI players that are out on the pitch should be supported. I'd have thought that was standard

Are you one of the "fans" thats boos Pool players at Anfield? If you know where it is of course

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07-12-2011 12:01PM

I'd had my doubts if any appeal for Spearings red will be successful. He still caught him, albiet with his trailing leg and with no intent imo.

Feet of the floor in a tackle is always risky territory.

mike65 · 07-12-2011 12:01PM

eldwaro wrote: »

so...how we gonne start now without spearo?

what bout

reina
johnsons----skrtle
agger
enrique
adam--hendo
downing
shelvey
bellamy
suarez

or would you bring in kuyt and try bellamy in the centre maybe? or slip maxi into the centre?

I'd nearly put Kuyt in the Lucas position! We are sooo thin, anyone know if Aurelio is still alive? he can play CM.

homolumo · 07-12-2011 12:13PM

We ain't appealing.

El Inho · 07-12-2011 12:18PM

mike65 wrote: »

I'd nearly put Kuyt in the Lucas position! We are sooo thin, anyone know if Aurelio is still alive? he can play CM.

id be surprised if he even lasted three games...damn shame though...forgot about him...touch of class...but man he is in a ****e body.

Jesus Wept · 07-12-2011 12:30PM

Keep forgetting that Fabio Aurelio is still at the club, guy should be put out to pasture.

El Inho · 07-12-2011 12:31PM

homolumo wrote: »

We ain't appealing.

and im sure we are....were still a very big club and very attractive :P

07-12-2011 12:42PM

I think we can cope without a holding mid v QPR tbh.

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