Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 - Mod Note 4153

Kess73 · 02-12-2011 01:07AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

All that's a bit ****ing rich from Carra, fairly sure he was critical of the signing of Lucas in his book saying we had English players in the youths/reserves who could do just as good a job as Lucas.

Yeah he did pass comments like that on Lucas in his book. Was pretty dismissive of Lucas' ability and potential.

Mr Alan · 02-12-2011 01:09AM

slingerz wrote: »

So maybe he's admitting that he made a mistake in his judgement of Lucas initially? I don't think he'd be the only one to be in that group to be fair

He doesn't seem to be 'admitting' anything.

My point is simply that undermining a team mate & his manager like that in his book was ****ing idiotic.

slingerz · 02-12-2011 01:15AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

slingerz wrote: »

So maybe he's admitting that he made a mistake in his judgement of Lucas initially? I don't think he'd be the only one to be in that group to be fair

He doesn't seem to be 'admitting' anything.

My point is simply that undermining a team mate & his manager like that in his book was ****ing idiotic.

He said the lad was a top player and totally commuted to playing for the club? He put him down as the best player of the last 18 months. That's hardly knocking him

Blatter · 02-12-2011 01:16AM

Didn't Carra also do a Keane and admit in his book that he went to do someone in a tackle before?

monkey9 · 02-12-2011 01:21AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

He doesn't seem to be 'admitting' anything.

My point is simply that undermining a team mate & his manager like that in his book was ****ing idiotic.

Quite frankly, no player should be bringing out autobiographies until they retire. It's the age we live in.

22 year old pop stars have 'books' written about them!

tommyhaas · 02-12-2011 01:21AM

Blatter wrote: »

Didn't Carra also do a Keane and admit in his book that he went to do someone in a tackle before?

Said he nearly got Lucas Neil done in a shopping centre. Don't remember anything about a tackle, but it was about two years ago I read it, so can't quiet remember

tommyhaas · 02-12-2011 01:22AM

monkey9 wrote: »

Quite frankly, no player should be bringing out autobiographies until they retire. It's the age we live in.

I agree, though I still read them. Apparently Wayne Rooney is the highest paid young author in the UK

monkey9 · 02-12-2011 01:32AM

tommyhaas wrote: »

I agree, though I still read them. Apparently Wayne Rooney is the highest paid young author in the UK

I agree with myself and yourself, yet i'll end up buying Reina's autobiography! Once it goes to paperback! I can't stand hardback books.

But despite being a hypocrite, it's a joke how footballers can come out with these books whilst they're still halfway through their career!

End of book book 1 "But hopefully, my loyallty will lead me to winning a trophy!"

Start of book 2 "Thankfully, my loyallty led to me winning a trophy. Now i hope the fact i'm more important than the manager and the club leads me to winning a trophy at a richer club"

Mr Alan · 02-12-2011 01:45AM

tommyhaas wrote: »

Said he nearly got Lucas Neil done in a shopping centre. Don't remember anything about a tackle, but it was about two years ago I read it, so can't quiet remember

Said he put in hard tackle on Song in training cause he hated his attitude.

Utd fans rushed to claim it was the same thing Keane did. Some people are very silly.

Blatter · 02-12-2011 01:56AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Said he put in hard tackle on Song in training cause he hated his attitude.

Utd fans rushed to claim it was the same thing Keane did. Some people are very silly.

Thanks for reminding me. I was able to find the relevant extract;

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Rigobert-Song-soon-learned-not-to-knock-Liverpool-team-mate-Jamie-Carragher-article39345.html

Originally posted by Jamie Carragher

He strolled off to his French speaking friends and began talking to them. I could see him pointing towards me while everyone was grinning. It was clear what he was saying and the rage inside me simmered.

Later, Song walked on to the training pitch with a smile on his face. He was limping off it with a grimace an hour later. The first chance I got, I did him. Never have I hunted down a 50-50 tackle with greater appetite.

"You're not f***ing laughing now are you, you soft twat?" I said as he hobbled away.

Did I care he had a knock? No way. I don't remember him or anyone else in the squad for that matter trying to take the piss out of my ability again.

Jayob10 · 02-12-2011 02:00AM

I reckon we will sign a Defensive Midfielder now in January, it won't be a top gap option either, i'd imagine the club will plow on with Champions league in mind and we would need top competition for Lucas in that instance anyway.

A new signing will probably be eased in with Spearing getting alot of games aswell, I think Spearing will plateau though in terms of his ability, he will probably be worth another 2-3 million by the end of the season though, by sheer presence in the first team alone.

Mr Alan · 02-12-2011 02:14AM

Blatter wrote: »

Thanks for reminding me. I was able to find the relevant extract;

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Rigobert-Song-soon-learned-not-to-knock-Liverpool-team-mate-Jamie-Carragher-article39345.html

As I said, the Keane comparisons were ludicrous. As everyone knows, going hard into a 50/50 tackle with someone so they know you're there is quite different to the disgusting assault perpetrated by Keane.

Blatter · 02-12-2011 02:22AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

As I said, the Keane comparisons were ludicrous. As everyone knows, going hard into a 50/50 tackle with someone so they know you're there is quite different to the disgusting assault perpetrated by Keane.

I agree they are different situations,
although still despicable from Carra to intentionally set out to injure his own team mate.

I was merely comparing it to the Keane situation in so far as they both admitted to going out to 'do' players in their autobiographies.

Chucky the tree · 02-12-2011 02:27AM

Blatter wrote: »

Thanks for reminding me. I was able to find the relevant extract;

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Rigobert-Song-soon-learned-not-to-knock-Liverpool-team-mate-Jamie-Carragher-article39345.html

No wonder people don't tell him he can't hit a long ball for ****.

Jesus Wept · 02-12-2011 02:56AM

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Tiote would be super but Newcastle will get fed up with being a feeder club soon!

If we throw them Carroll type money they won't complain.

Chucky the tree · 02-12-2011 03:23AM

The-Rigger wrote: »

If we throw them Carroll type money they won't complain.

eh...

Jesus Wept · 02-12-2011 03:25AM

£35,000,000

Chucky the tree · 02-12-2011 03:38AM

The-Rigger wrote: »

£35,000,000

Pretty sure I didn't make that post, I don't remember doing it anyway! Where did you get it from?

Jesus Wept · 02-12-2011 03:41AM

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Pretty sure I didn't make that post, I don't remember doing it anyway! Where did you get it from?

Actually this was it...

slingerz wrote: »

I think a loan would be a good option but most likely will have to buy.

Fellani from across the park would be an amazing signing in that position or even Rodwell given Everton's financial woes. Tiote would be super but Newcastle will get fed up with being a feeder club soon!

Lee Cattermole is another that will be linked but I'm not sure as to what he'd add.

Must have had a quoted post from you also but deleted it but quoted the wrong person on the wrong post, etc.

Chucky the tree · 02-12-2011 04:13AM

lol, was starting to worry a bit there.

corcaigh07 · 02-12-2011 08:37AM

eldwaro wrote: »

fear of testicles not to blame for Chelsea poor form...fair enough.

very off topic but thanks, didnt know Miskella retired

Mr Alan · 02-12-2011 10:03AM

Blatter wrote: »

I agree they are different situations,
although still despicable from Carra to intentionally set out to injure his own team mate.

:rolleyes:

This is the point I was making about some people being absolutely ridiculous about this. There is absolutely nothing to indicate that he set out to seriously injure his own team mate (which would be despicable), he only set out to hurt him with a hard tackle. There's not a defender or midfielder in the world who hasn't done the same. It's a total non issue.

For example, I remember Danny Agger clattering Torres out of it in his first game against us after his move. Left Torres writhing around in pain on the deck after it. Did anyone think, "wow, that was despicable". No. It's part of the game that's great & it should always be that way. It's when incidents like Keane's cross the line to such an extreme that the outrage should begin.

Daemonic · 02-12-2011 10:21AM

His motivation in tackling Song is the problem. Agger tackled Torres during a match to win the ball. Carragher did it cause the mean boys were laughing at him.

RasTa · 02-12-2011 10:27AM

Blatter, I wouldn't bother dude.

Grayditch · 02-12-2011 10:28AM

Wouldn't mind a punt at Lassana Diarra in Jan as a replacement for Lucas.

Mr Alan · 02-12-2011 10:37AM

Daemonic wrote: »

His motivation in tackling Song is the problem. Agger tackled Torres during a match to win the ball. Carragher did it cause the mean boys were laughing at him.

He tackled Song to win the ball & send a message to Song.
Exactly the same as Danny Agger did.

I loved it when Agger did it.

Morzadec · 02-12-2011 10:51AM

How likely is it that Lucas's injury will affect his ability in the long term?

mike65 · 02-12-2011 10:59AM

I imagine the club will be looking at sides that fall out of the Champions League or Europa League for the fill in for Lucas, which team with a decent water carrier that might need the money is likely to go out?

Leiva · 02-12-2011 11:09AM

...forget it !

image way too big

Morzadec · 02-12-2011 11:10AM

Someone mentioned earlier, but Diarra on loan seems the ideal option. He's a really top player, very good on the ball and great off it. He's played a bit this season but isn't first choice...Not sure if they'd let him go but I'd love it it we could get him.

Even if we had to sign him then anything around the £10m-£15m mark would be a bargain.

For now I think we have to trust in Spearing to do a job. I wrote him off a while back but was impressed with him last season and I think he has a role to play at the club. He'll definitely give 100% anyway that's for sure

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