Munster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

PhatPiggins wrote: »

Aren't we now opening pubs on Good Friday to appease them ! That's enough for now.

It's actually scary how dependent Limerick tourism is on Munster rugby, it'd be a disaster if it was ever pulled.

Limerick should recognise this and be working hard at changing things.

thomond2006 wrote: »

Aye, a Heineken Cup weekend always brings in €€€s in the millions to Limerick.

Does it though? How many Scarlets and Castres fans will actually make the trip? I'm not being smart, I'm actually interested to know if you stripped out the Limerick people who (presumably) would be spending their cash in Limerick anyway, and the other Munster people who arrive for a couple of hours then head off again, is the net economic impact that big?

Here's the report.
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/578.php

The Economic Impact of a Thomond Park Match
23 June 2009, 9:42 amBy BDO Simpson XavierAn economic impact study commissioned by Munster Rugby has revealed that the Heineken Cup quarter final match against Ospreys in April, generated €10.5 million for Limerick.
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The study conducted by BDO Simpson Xavier, Limerick revealed that the financial contribution to the city and region has grown by over �6million for such fixtures as a result of the new stadium development and increased capacity.
Commenting on the impact of the Heineken Cup games on the city, Munster Rugby CEO Garrett Fitzgerald said We are delighted that the investment made in the new Stadium is having such a positive economic impact for Limerick and the wider business community. We were always aware of the level of business activity in the city on the strength of Heineken Cup matches however these study findings confirm the economic potential of stadium events for Limerick City and the Mid West region.

Mark OConnell, Consulting Director with BDO Simpson Xavier outlined "the study reveals a number of major profile benefits for the city in addition to the obvious financial boost these games generate. The previous economic impact study conducted for the Munster versus Wasps game in January 2008 highlighted an almost identical spend per visiting supporter of �530 over the weekend of the games. The major difference for the city is now the ability of Thomond Park to accommodate more Munster and visiting supporters and create a much higher level of economic activity across the city."

He added "the value of the media coverage for the city and region is also very significant. Games such as the Ospreys game can create a latent tourism spend effect of �12 million for the city based on the international match coverage across all media formats. It was estimated that the value of global media coverage for the city for the past season was �58 million including the All Blacks game last November."

Commenting on the overall impact of Munster games at Thomond Park, Sales and Marketing Manager for Munster Rugby, Glyn Billinghurst explained It is important that we now build on the findings and information gained from these two studies and provide the supporters visiting Thomond Park with activity and events around the match to enhance their visit to Limerick. The Study also identified a clear need to publicise the activities, offers and events that are organised in Limerick City in advance of any match weekend. This will help grow the major economic impact of any Munster Rugby Match or event in Thomond Park.

Key Report Findings

The redevelopment of Thomond Park Stadium has resulted in the creation of a major economic stimulus for the local economy. The Ospreys quarter final match resulted in generating an economic impact of �10.485. The direct expenditure from Irish and Welsh supporters was �4.194.
The application of sensitivity analysis to the economic impact findings highlights an economic range of between �8.388 million and �12.58 that will accrue to city businesses from such events. The match also resulted in 280 part time jobs created over the weekend across local hospitality, food, beverage and retail sectors.
The study of spending patterns of 445 Ospreys supporters revealed an average spend of �527 per visiting supporter which is similar to the findings of the Economic Impact Study conducted at the Munster versus Wasps pool game where the average spend was �537.
27% of expenditure went on accommodation with 68% of visiting supporters budgets spent on Food & Beverage in the city.
The average expenditure per local supporter revealed a number of average expenditure sub categories ranging from �32 to �260.
Local accommodation providers are of one of the major beneficiaries with 3912 bednights generated locally for the Ospreys match.
Visiting supporters stayed an average of 2 nights each while one in four Ospreys supporters stayed three nights or more.
The study reinforces the major economic benefits that accrue to the city from events hosted in Thomond Park Stadium however one of the major outcomes of the study is the level of positive social impact such events have locally.
A pre departure study conducted among Ospreys Supporters with the assistance of Shannon Development highlighted that the majority of visiting supporters focused on the destination as a sporting and rugby. 66% of the visiting supporters associated the city with Munster Rugby, Thomond Park and sport.
The perception of Limerick among visiting supporters focused on the welcoming, friendly and sociable nature of the city.
The top three rated aspects of Limerick among the 445 visiting supporters surveyed were Friendliness of local people, Limerick is a sports orientated city and thirdly the great Atmosphere throughout Limerick.
Supporters were asked to rate the best aspect of their visit to Limerick. 22.9% referred to the atmosphere and fun in the city on the match weekend. A further 20.6% highlighted the friendly and welcoming people of Limerick while 19.4% rated the social life in the city as the best part of their trip. 7.1% rated Thomond Park and their highlight with a further 5.9% commenting on the overall city of Limerick as the best element of their visit.
The exposure received for Limerick through media focus on the match and in the build up is also a major contributor to developing the image and profile of the city. Based on media coverage and the latent tourism spend over the following year the Ospreys game created a further tourism value of �12 million for the region. The media value of the four Heineken Cup games and All Blacks game hosted in Thomond Park was �58 million.
Analysis of local supporter spend suggest that Magners League games will create an economic impact of between �1.2 million and �3.5 million for the city.
It is estimated that the value of the two scheduled summer concerts hosted at Thomond park will generate �9.9 million each. A sample of 13 city hotels revealed 100% occupancy for the Elton John concert recently held in Thomond Park.

funky penguin wrote: »

I love the two players, but something a bit more inclusive of Munster Rugby as a whole would be a little more fitting. Maybe it's just me. imo you should never erect monuments of people who are still alive.

unless that person is Emil Zatopek.

Ordinarily I'd agree but O'Gara has been at the top for over a decade, that's some achievement for a man with few enough phsical skills to mark him out as a top level player.

funky penguin wrote: »

Very true, he's an amazing player.

I think I'd just prefer to see Hayes up there!

Hayes should get one out in Bruff but I doubt he cares for that sort of stuff. You know O'Gara would just love it.

Good to see Danny Barnes up among the top try scorers, just one behind Visser and Nick Williams (shame we never got the best from him) on 4 so far. He's still only finding his feet but he seems to be a natural try scorer. From an Irish point of view, we can't play two NIQ's in the centre.

Any word on if Chambers is going to be a project player, I'm not saying he'd ever be Irish standard but already he seems to a wider game than Mafi ever did.

thomond2006 wrote: »

Barnes has 6 tries from 13 starts and 6 sub appearances. Great strike rate, Franno and Williams were full of praise for him last night.

When is Chambers' contract up? Munster were being vague about it, saying "short term contract".

Think it was around the end of March, so in reality he's playing for a career as much as anything else. He's setting a high standard for himself though, hope he can keep it up.

Barnes is such a grafter as well as anything else, really great to see. Would rather see Chambers at 12 though.

bamboozle wrote: »

from what i've seen of Barnes is he's incredibly slow for provincial level, maybe he needs to drop a few pounds to speed up?

I see Rory Lamont has left Toulon and is looking for a few club, he'd be a good fit with munster at the monent at full back

Doubt he's much slower than Fitz or Darren Cave. I don't think I've ever noticed him being noticeably slow whereas you do see it with Cave, for example.

Cpt_Blackbeard wrote: »

Nagle would probably start for Leinster, never mind Connacht - Wasn't he ahead of Toner for Ireland A last year? Depending on MOD's contract I'd rather we kept Nagle and allowed Foley head off to prove himself.

In fairness, he would on his boll*x.

totallegend wrote: »

In fairness, he would on his boll*x.

He'd get significant gametime, probably not start in the HEC but he'd be making squads, imo.