Is Sean Gallagher telling lies

Sunnyisland · 25-10-2011 06:39PM

gambiaman wrote: »

Bryan Dobson has just filleted Gallagher on Six One.

I actually have some sympathy for sean gallagher, He looked like such a nice man.There like piranha taking bits of him now.

Sir Oxman · 25-10-2011 06:40PM

realies wrote: »

I actually have some sympathy for sean gallagher, He looked like such a nice man.There like piranha taking bits of him now.

I don't.

Sunnyisland · 25-10-2011 06:42PM

gambiaman wrote: »

I don't.

Just on the human to human level That's all, not that I be voting for him.

Sir Oxman · 25-10-2011 06:42PM

realies wrote: »

Just on the human to human level That's all, not that I be voting for him.

Nope;)
And I'm a soft fcker IRL

25-10-2011 06:43PM

realies wrote: »

I actually have some sympathy for sean gallagher, He looked like such a nice man.There like piranha taking bits of him now.

Bertie seemed like a nice man too.

M cebee · 25-10-2011 06:47PM

hopefully theres still time for this spoofers campaign to completely unravel

jmayo · 25-10-2011 06:48PM

stooodent wrote: »

Hes the best of a bad bunch we have three likely and reasonable candidates Sean Gallagher, a successful and charismatic entrepreneur with a crooked past. Michael d Higgins is a cultural advocate but he is a bit over the hill.

Give me over the hill anyday before lying unethical untrustworthy chancer.
It really shows how this country has gotten to where it is today when someone sees no issue with the the head of state having a crooked past.

Successful businessman me ar**.
Even though his company were involved in the huge construction bubble he had to get huge state aid.
He either doesn't have an idea of company law or else he is a crook.
Oh and his farming time was rather blown up as well.

stooodent wrote: »

... I dont know why but I feel Sean would do more with office maybe exercise the presidential power a bit more, make the office more prominent ...

Maybe it is because you have a soft spot for his party ?
I think he will definitely make the office more prominent in the joke department.

Snakeblood wrote: »

How is someone being crooked not enough to disqualify them from being Ireland's representative?

It is the fianna fail prerequisite.

stooodent wrote: »

Like I said the best of a bad bunch they all have a dubious past I just feel that Sean might have more presents than the other candidates. just a matter of interest what horse are you backing?

Ah typical bertish what with the reference to backing the horses.
Please enlighen us to the dubious past of some of the other candidates without reference to martin mcguinness.
Lets start with Mitchell, Higgins and Dana.

stooodent wrote: »

I wouldn't worry too much its just a presidential office it not like the president has much influence.

Yeah the head of state and offical representative of the Irish state doesn't deserve someone with honesty and integrity.

Does ff want to totally drag what is left of our name through the gutter ?

Greaney · 25-10-2011 06:59PM

I'll keep this real simple...

1) I respect a politician who once in a while say's 'I don't know', even if I don't agree with his or her policies.

2) I never trust a politician who promises something I have a hunch they can't deliver. Mary Robinson and Mary McAleece never promised jobs and we never assumed they could create or attract them.

3) If you think an older president is a bad idea, just think how much you'd be paying out in a younger presidents Pension after they leave office, and they'd be still well able to work!!

4)And finally, if you're thinking of giving Gallagher the sympathy vote, what can I say?? This isn't the 'X' factor. This is the next Irish President. You've to live with them for the next 7 years.

charlemont · 25-10-2011 07:22PM

realies wrote: »

I actually have some sympathy for sean gallagher, He looked like such a nice man.There like piranha taking bits of him now.

Just remember its a front, I'm sure he is a likeable man but if you lay down with dogs, You end up with fleas.

jonniebgood1 · 25-10-2011 07:26PM

Its a media witchhunt. If the election is decided by P Kennys introduction of untrue 'tweet' then it is a sad day for the country. Regardless of views on SG this is no way for deciding an election.

raymon · 25-10-2011 07:27PM

realies wrote: »

I actually have some sympathy for sean gallagher, He looked like such a nice man.There like piranha taking bits of him now.

I never find dishonest people to be nice....

raymon · 25-10-2011 07:32PM

jonniebgood1 wrote: »

Its a media witchhunt. If the election is decided by P Kennys introduction of untrue 'tweet' then it is a sad day for the country. Regardless of views on SG this is no way for deciding an election.

But it was just one in a series of lies. The mistake he made was telling a lie live on air in front of 700,000 people.

I am mad that 40% of the population swallowed the previous lies.

efb · 25-10-2011 07:33PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6G3hUtu150

padz24 · 25-10-2011 07:34PM

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=295544630473925&set=a.129246680437055.17667.100000551711912&type=1&theater

ColeTrain · 25-10-2011 07:34PM

jonniebgood1 wrote: »

Its a media witchhunt. If the election is decided by P Kennys introduction of untrue 'tweet' then it is a sad day for the country. Regardless of views on SG this is no way for deciding an election.

Hardly a witchhunt. Gallagher set himself up for this trying to distance himself from FF. Thankfully this came out before Thursday.

hotmail.com · 25-10-2011 07:39PM

realies wrote: »

I actually have some sympathy for sean gallagher, He looked like such a nice man.There like piranha taking bits of him now.

Jeepers, people used to feel sorry for Bertie as well..looks where that led us.

Ozymandius2011 · 25-10-2011 07:39PM

ColeTrain wrote: »

Hardly a witchhunt. Gallagher set himself up for this trying to distance himself from FF. Thankfully this came out before Thursday.

He never denied his links to FF and even said he was proud of them in the debate. It was already in the public domain. This was transparently a setup and I'm confident the public outside of prudish Dublin 4 circles will see through it. Dublin has always diverged from majority opinion in this State in terms of leaning more to the Left.

later12 · 25-10-2011 07:45PM

Not sure if this has been posted already.

Interview with Sean Gallagher, candidate, by Rachel English (RTE) from Morning Ireland on October 20th

http://www.politics.ie/forum/irish-presidential-election-2011/174196-hugh-morgan-statement-gallagher-asked-me-5k-fianna-fail-36.html#post4539407

Gallagher: I was asked by Fianna Fail Headquarters of which I was a party member at the time in 2008 which is no secret if I would mention it to local business people which I did.

English: So you rang people up and invited them?

Gallagher: No, people that I met, I explained that there was this event coming up. I have to make it very clear, I sought no money, I received no money from anybody, that was dealt with by Headquarters Fianna Fail Headquarters. I also want to make it very clear that while I attended the event I was not asked for money, I made no contribution myself in either a personal capacity or as a corporate donation either before the event, during the event, or after the event.

English: How many people did you invite?

Gallagher: I think I mentioned to possibly three or four people, and I have no idea to this day whether or not they made a donation whatsoever.

Jimoslimos · 25-10-2011 07:45PM

Ozymandius2011 wrote: »

He never denied his links to FF and even said he was proud of them in the debate. It was already in the public domain. This was transparently a setup and I'm confident the public outside of prudish Dublin 4 circles will see through it. Dublin has always diverged from majority opinion in this State in terms of leaning more to the Left.

Hey, welcome back! On your way to spread the gospel according to SG across multiple threads.

For a man so 'proud' he was happy enough to dupe the unwitting members of the electorate into believing he was an independent candidate while keeping the core FF vote. Do loyal FF members not have a problem with a man who ABANDONED the party once the going got tough??

ColeTrain · 25-10-2011 07:46PM

Ozymandius2011 wrote: »

He never denied his links to FF and even said he was proud of them in the debate. It was already in the public domain. This was transparently a setup and I'm confident the public outside of prudish Dublin 4 circles will see through it. Dublin has always diverged from majority opinion in this State in terms of leaning more to the Left.

It wasn't in the public domain that he was a bagman for them.

I'm confident that the whole of Ireland will see that he was involved with FF when they ran this country into the ground.

later12 · 25-10-2011 07:48PM

ColeTrain wrote: »

It wasn't in the public domain that he was a bagman for them.

I'm confident that the whole of Ireland will see that he was involved with FF when they ran this country into the ground.

He hasn't denied that, and there's nothing wrong with being involved with Fianna Fail in and of itself.

The question is whether or not Gallagher lied about his role in the party, or his role at the fundraiser in question.

kyote00 · 25-10-2011 07:50PM

NB, the actual statement does not contain phone numbers or the cheque number....

Check it on Rte site...

gambiaman wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/1025/hughmorganstatement.html

Hugh Morgan statement
Updated: 16:58, Tuesday, 25 October 2011

Statement on behald of Hugh Morgan of Hugh Morgan Fuels

I wish to clarify and set the record straight in relation to the dealings I had with Sean Gallagher which resulted in my attendance at a Fianna Fail fundraiser in the Crown Plaza Hotel, Dundalk, on the 1st July 2008.
Sean Gallagher , who I had never met previous to this, contacted me by phone. He first phoned me on the 6th June 2008 and invited me to attend the above fundraiser. In the course of the call he requested a donation of €5,000.00 for Fianna Fail. He advised me that this type of fundraising would replace the annual Galway Tent Fundraiser. In return for the €5,000.00 donation I was promised a private audience with the Taoiseach and I would get a photograph taken with him.
He told me that the Taoiseach would give an up-date on the economy in the South which in his words was 'beginning to wobble'
On the 9th June he again phoned me to confirm my attendance . I confirmed that I would attend and was prepared to give the donation he requested. He left two mobile phone numbers for me to contact him on these numbers are 0878293028 and 0879763122.
On the 27th June Sean Gallagher visited my business premises at Killean, County Armagh. I wrote a cheque for €5,000.00 and gave it to him personally. The cheque number is 13014. I still have the stub of the cheque , This payment is declared in my Company accounts and was cleared through my bank on the 1st July 2008.
I then attended the fundraiser which was also attended by other businessmen from South Armagh, North Louth and across the Northeast. Sean Gallagher greeted the guests on arrival and directed us to the room at the top of the Hotel where the fundraiser was held.
Brian Cowen gave a speech on the economy and predicted a soft landing. At the end of the night Sean Gallagher introduced me to Brian Cowen and facilitated a photograph to be taken of myself and him. Approximately one week later Sean Gallagher called back to my business and gave me the photograph.
It is a fact that approximately fourteen years ago I was convicted of tax evasion in relation to fuel smuggling in Northern Ireland. As a consequence to that, I have repaid the Exchequer and paid a substantial fine. I was never investigated by CAB or any other agency in the Republic.
Since that time I have developed a successful international business known as Morgan Fuels.
I employ over eighty people in Ireland ,both North and South. I have business interests in Ireland , Britan and Europe and the Morgan Fuel card can be used up to 4,000 service stations in fourteen countries across Europe.I am also the official sponsor of the Armagh County teams of the GAA.

Yitzhak Rabin · 25-10-2011 07:51PM

jonniebgood1 wrote: »

Its a media witchhunt. If the election is decided by P Kennys introduction of untrue 'tweet' then it is a sad day for the country. Regardless of views on SG this is no way for deciding an election.

How do you feel about Gallagher lying to the electorate on TV. Leave aside the methods that were used to draw out the truth. What do you think of the man lying about the fundraising?

Happyman42 · 25-10-2011 07:54PM

yekahS wrote: »

How do you feel about Gallagher lying to the electorate on TV. Leave aside the methods that were used to draw out the truth. What do you think of the man lying about the fundraising?

He was just 'resting his account ..............................................................................................................................................................until he got briefed by the FF bigwigs overnight!

Judgement Day · 25-10-2011 07:54PM

later10 wrote: »

Not sure if this has been posted already.

Interview with Sean Gallagher, candidate, by Rachel English (RTE) from Morning Ireland on October 20th

http://www.politics.ie/forum/irish-presidential-election-2011/174196-hugh-morgan-statement-gallagher-asked-me-5k-fianna-fail-36.html#post4539407

Lies, lies all lies.

ColeTrain · 25-10-2011 07:58PM

later10 wrote: »

He hasn't denied that, and there's nothing wrong with being involved with Fianna Fail in and of itself.

The question is whether or not Gallagher lied about his role in the party, or his role at the fundraiser in question.

Thing is, you can't be involved with Fianna Fail if you want to be elected president. I think the revelations just woke a lot of people up to who they would be actually voting for. I'm still can't believe he used the word envelope.

rainbowdash · 25-10-2011 08:00PM

later10 wrote: »

He hasn't denied that, and there's nothing wrong with being involved with Fianna Fail in and of itself.

The question is whether or not Gallagher lied about his role in the party, or his role at the fundraiser in question.

It seems quite clear to me he did lie. Originally he only asked a few people he did know personally to attend the dinner. Now he has admitted on the 6 o'clock news he contacted people he didn't know, like Morgan to attend the dinner.

He then amits he visited Morgan, who he didn't know, after the event to give him a photograph. Why did he not just post it out to this stranger?

There are a lot of unanswered questions here and little time to answer them. Can Gallagher produce the person who did pass Morgans cheque to FF if it wasn't him? We know it wasn't passed to FF on the night of the gig becuase the lodgement dates prove this.

Gallagher has been conning the public into thinking his FF role was very minor when reality it was much higher profile.

later12 · 25-10-2011 08:00PM

ColeTrain wrote: »

Thing is, you can't be involved with Fianna Fail if you want to be elected president. I think the revelations just woke a lot of people up to who they would be actually voting for. I'm still can't believe he used the word envelope.

Of course you can.

If this hadn't surfaced, Gallagher would still have been the pollster's favourite to win the vote on Thursday. That likelihood has now receded significantly.

The good news for Fianna Fail is that the name is not necessarily toxic, as seen by Gallagher's popularity to date. What is toxic - and this must be hammered home within the party - is a FFer lying to the public.

Wallflower · 25-10-2011 08:04PM

Ozymandius2011 wrote: »

He never denied his links to FF and even said he was proud of them in the debate. It was already in the public domain. This was transparently a setup and I'm confident the public outside of prudish Dublin 4 circles will see through it. Dublin has always diverged from majority opinion in this State in terms of leaning more to the Left.

What is the "This" you refer to?

How do you set-up somebody to lie continually in the national media? If he didn't lie there wouldn't be any "set-up".

wow sierra · 25-10-2011 08:08PM

Ozymandius2011 wrote: »

He never denied his links to FF and even said he was proud of them in the debate. It was already in the public domain. This was transparently a setup and I'm confident the public outside of prudish Dublin 4 circles will see through it. Dublin has always diverged from majority opinion in this State in terms of leaning more to the Left.

Thats simply not true - Gallagher has spent his entire campaign trying to play down his Fianna Fáil role. He fudged a question about them so badly in the Miriam O'Callaghan debate that I thought he was finished then. I can't believe it took this long for him to be found out.

I am a former FF supporter who doesn't have a problem with him supporting them - its his constant fabrication in relation to his past that annoys me.

If it was already in the public domain then why didn't he simply reply to McGuinness when he said it first last night "Yes I invited people to a FF fundraiser - yes I asked them for a donation - I stand over this and am not denying it" - issue sorted. But he had to fudge and fudge.
Whatever Sinn Féin have been accused of - I have never heard of them called prudish D4. The only D4 people Gallager should be worried about are his empoyers in RTE- they are his only chance of a job next week. He is the one who is the D4 celeb in this campaign(and yes I know he is from Cavan)

Is Sean Gallagher telling lies

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