Liverpool v Manchester United, Anfield, 15th October 12:45 - (MOD NOTE - Post #1)

flahavaj · 16-10-2011 01:48PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

By lying he may have damaged his case?

Yea, I agree.

No by going on about cameras and what they are capable of picking up when in reality he should have just left it to the legal team. He wasn't lying, he was just stupid to say it should have been picked up on camera when in reality he shouldn't have any clue whether it was or wasn't.

I doubt the case will be decided on Patrice's knowledge of Sky's camerawork.

Your scrambling around for straws at which to grasp since this was announced and your certainty about the innocence of Suarez based simply on the team he plays for and that of his accsor would be amusing if it wasn't so typical.

Fuhrer · 16-10-2011 01:49PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

By lying he may have damaged his case?

Yea, I agree.

Even if Sueruz was convicted of making racial slurs, youd probably still try and find to worm out of it and blame Evra for being born black.

Mr Alan · 16-10-2011 01:50PM

So if Evra says it's on the cameras & it's not on them, he's not lying?

flahavaj · 16-10-2011 01:52PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

So if Evra says it's on the cameras & it's not on them, he's not lying?

He's mistaken. How could he possibly tell whats on camera or not? He shouldn't have said anything to that effect tbh but it isn't more an indication of his tendency to say too much than an indication of his truthfulness.

ricero · 16-10-2011 01:54PM

the only witnesses if i understand correctly are kuyt and de gea. de gea this morning on spanish radio said he knew nothing of suarez being racist to evra and also he speaks spanish.

i honestly think that if suarez is cleared of this, then evra should receive some type of ban

Mr Alan · 16-10-2011 01:55PM

Ahhhhh he's mistaken. Ok.

If that's the case, he should face a hefty ban for being so frivolous with his accusations of a very serious nature. It's not really something he can afford to be 'mistaken' about.

ricero · 16-10-2011 01:57PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Ahhhhh he's mistaken. Ok.

If that's the case, he should face a hefty ban for being so frivolous with his accusations of a very serious nature. It's not really something he can afford to be 'mistaken' about.

its defamation of character

flahavaj · 16-10-2011 01:59PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Ahhhhh he's mistaken. Ok.

If that's the case, he should face a hefty ban for being so frivolous with his accusations of a very serious nature. It's not really something he can afford to be 'mistaken' about.

You should be glad he mentioned cameras as it will help Suarez's case more than Evra's, surely.

It certainly doesn't make him a liar though which is the straw you continue to grasp at.

16-10-2011 02:23PM

Do Sky still have player cams?

Le King · 16-10-2011 02:27PM

ricero wrote: »

Mr Alan wrote: »

Ahhhhh he's mistaken. Ok.

If that's the case, he should face a hefty ban for being so frivolous with his accusations of a very serious nature. It's not really something he can afford to be 'mistaken' about.

its defamation of character

Ok Mr. Hutz. Is he going to sue him too?

And the fa aren't going to ban Evra. That's ridiculous.

flahavaj · 16-10-2011 02:28PM

Le King wrote: »

Ok Mr. Hutz. Is he going to sue him too?

And the fa aren't going to ban Evra. That's ridiculous.

You wouldn't put anything past the FA given their recent dealings with the club tbh...........

16-10-2011 02:30PM

flahavaj wrote: »

You wouldn't put anything past the FA given their recent dealings with the club tbh...........

http://www.newsrealblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/TinFoilHatArea.jpg

flahavaj · 16-10-2011 02:33PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

http://www.newsrealblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/TinFoilHatArea.jpg

Ha indeed. In fairness even most Liverpool fans agreed their treatment of Fergie last season after he paid a referee a compliment was ridiculous in the extreme.

killwill · 16-10-2011 02:35PM

K-9 wrote: »

From the quotes, it says he reported it after the match, it would seem he didn't mention it during the match.

It does have some relevance, he'll probably be asked why he didn't make a deal of it at the time.

He got booked for making a deal out of it didn't he?

monkey9 · 16-10-2011 02:37PM

Suarez: "I'm upset by the acusations of racism. I can only say that I have always respected and respect everybody. We are all the same. I go to the field with the maximum illusion of a little child who enjoys what he does, not to create conflicts."

Mr Alan · 16-10-2011 02:39PM

Luis Suarez wrote:

I'm upset by the acusations of racism. I can only say that I have always respected and respect everybody. We are all the same. I go to the field with the maximum illusion of a little child who enjoys what he does, not to create conflicts.

16-10-2011 02:40PM

flahavaj wrote: »

Ha indeed. In fairness even most Liverpool fans agreed their treatment of Fergie last season after he paid a referee a compliment was ridiculous in the extreme.

I don't think any club is singled out for any rough tresatment over others.

Sure isn't David Gill on the FA board?

Think Babel's fine for posting a pic or Wolves getting a fine for a "weakened" team. Plenty of other examples but my brain isn't functioning too well today !

dahat · 16-10-2011 02:41PM

Surprised he didn't go for a bite as well......:D

16-10-2011 02:41PM

Suarez just posted this on Facebook

I'm upset by the acusations of racism. I can only say that I have always respected and respect everybody. We are all the same. I go to the field with the maximum illusion of a little child who enjoys what he does, not to create conflicts.

killwill · 16-10-2011 02:42PM

ricero wrote: »

the only witnesses if i understand correctly are kuyt and de gea. de gea this morning on spanish radio said he knew nothing of suarez being racist to evra and also he speaks spanish.

i honestly think that if suarez is cleared of this, then evra should receive some type of ban

The problem is though that Suarez at best can only be found not guilty.

As I said in the Utd thread 3 things can happen

1. Cameras pick up Suarez is a racist and he gets maybe a 5 match ban.
2. Cameras are inconclusive, Suarez is not guilty, this does not make him innocent either.
3. Evra is lying and deserves a 5 match ban of his own, this one is the impossible one though as cameras cannot tell if a player is lying.

Mr Alan · 16-10-2011 02:43PM

killwill wrote: »

1. Cameras pick up Suarez is a racist and he gets maybe a 5 match ban.
2. Cameras are inconclusive, Suarez is not guilty, this does not make him innocent either.

Yes. It. Does.

K-9 · 16-10-2011 02:43PM

killwill wrote: »

He got booked for making a deal out of it didn't he?

Yeah, which is why I found it odd Evra specifically said he made the referee aware of it afterwards.

Anyway, we'll see if the FA can make anything of it.

Fuhrer · 16-10-2011 02:44PM

monkey9 wrote: »

I can only say that I have always respected and respect everybody.

Jack-Rodwell-Luis-Suarez-Liverpool-Premier-Le_2659422.jpg

RESPECT

killwill · 16-10-2011 02:45PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Suarez just posted this on Facebook

LOL, his english is quite impressive heh?
Smells of a PR team, not Suarez.

ilovelamp2000 · 16-10-2011 02:47PM

killwill wrote: »

LOL, his english is quite impressive heh?
Smells of a PR team, not Suarez.

wow

bamboozling · 16-10-2011 02:48PM

killwill wrote: »

LOL, his english is quite impressive heh?
Smells of a PR team, not Suarez.

No it smells of a lad directly trying to translate directly in his head from Spanish to English.

16-10-2011 02:50PM

killwill wrote: »

LOL, his english is quite impressive heh?
Smells of a PR team, not Suarez.

Here ya go, for the tinfoilers

Enojado por las acusaciones de racismo. Solo puedo decir que que siempre he respetado y respeto a todo el mundo. Todos somos iguales. Entro al campo con la maxima ilusion de un niño que disfruta con lo que hace, no para crear conflictos.

K-9 · 16-10-2011 02:50PM

Fuhrer wrote: »

RESPECT

I think he meant as regards racism and he has a track record of having no time for it!

Mr Alan · 16-10-2011 02:51PM

Fuhrer wrote: »

RESPECT

1) Handball on the line that most pros would do & what I'd want any player on my team to do.
2) Biting someone which was scummy, no doubt, however, the player he bite was a mate of his & the two walked off at the end of the match with their arms around eachother.
2) He was caught & his ankle jarred underneath Rodwell as the pics posted here recently proved definitively.

What any of that has to do with him being branded a racist is beyond me though.

16-10-2011 02:52PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

1) Handball on the line that most pros would do & what I'd want any player on my team to do.
2) Biting someone which was scummy, no doubt, however, the player he bite was a mate of his & the two walked off at the end of the match with their arms around eachother.
2) He was caught & his ankle jarred underneath Rodwell as the pics posted here recently proved definitively.

What any of that has to do with him being branded a racist is beyond me though.

Haters gonna hate.

We know that poster is a passioinate hater :cool:

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