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Should Trinity have cancelled the Nick Griffin talk?

  • 14-10-2011 02:19PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭


    Nick Griffin was due to speak at an event in TCD, but Trinity was forced to cancel after caving in to pressure from protesters. You won't find anyone who detests Nick Griffin and his ilk more than I, but I do support freedom of speech and I feel he should have been given the opportunity to speak.

    What say AH? Should Nick Griffin have been afforded the opportunity to speak, or was TCD right to cancel the event?

    Should Trinity have cancelled the Nick Griffin talk? 274 votes

    No - they should not. I support freedom of speech.
    0% 1 vote
    Yes - they should have cancelled it. Griffin does not deserve a platform.
    83% 229 votes
    Other - Discuss.
    16% 44 votes


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    You cant stop someone speaking just because you dont agree with what they say.

    They have a point of view to express and whether or not other people detest it is irrelevant


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Let the man talk I say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭Duke Leonal Felmet


    Probably the usual threat of violent protest from lefties that prompted it. Something similar happened in UCC about 3 years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    Nah, ban him, his kind are dangerous.

    People are easily swayed, just look at the amount of people on here that hate foreigners. They'd love him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Was in two minds about it myself but they probably should have let the scumbag talk, so he could be challenged on his bile in a debate format.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,893 ✭✭✭Hannibal Smith


    I always mix him up with the guy from Family Guy :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Let his idiocy speak for itself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    He should come up here and talk at the DUP conference coming up. Will be interesting to hear what he has to say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Sooopie


    Leftist wrote: »
    Nah, ban him, his kind are dangerous.

    People are easily swayed, just look at the amount of people on here that hate foreigners. They'd love him.




    :D Its true!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Leftist wrote: »
    Nah, ban him, his kind are dangerous.

    People are easily swayed, just look at the amount of people on here that hate foreigners. They'd love him.

    That wont make them go away.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Sheeps


    dont know or care who he is


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Was in two minds about it myself but they probably should have let the scumbag talk, so he could be challenged on his bile in a debate format.

    That's precisely why he should be allowed to speak - So we have an opportunity to challenge him. Watch any debate he talks place in - his argument is always systematically torn apart. We had nothing to lose by letting him speak.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    RichieC wrote: »
    Let his idiocy speak for itself.

    Its a political viewpoint. Because it may differ from yours doesnt mean it cant be expressed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭MetalDog


    Griffin is a bollocks of the highest order, but they should have let him on and had him take part in a proper debate so that someone with more brains and skill than him could show him up as a silly little man.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 843 ✭✭✭maygitchell


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    He should come up here and talk at the DUP conference coming up. Will be interesting to hear what he has to say.

    Hed love a bunch of unionists **** passionately over everything he has to say...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Should have let him speak. Panorama had an interesting programme on the BNP last week, some ex members very critical about his performance on Question Time.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,905 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    I personally wouldn't support giving racist bigots a platform to spout their drool.

    If he wants to stand on a soapbox on Grafton Street let him off, but fuck rolling out the Trinity red carpet for the prick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    People say they support freedom and democracy but refuses the right to speak for others.

    "Some animals are more equal than others".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Everbody is a racist.

    I love it when some people pretend to be all lovey dovey liberal just to sound popular


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Hed love a bunch of unionists **** passionately over everything he has to say...
    He should be allowed to speak. Freedom of speech is important.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    He'll just be a step further forward to neo-nazi martyrdom.

    He should be given every available opportunity to make a tit of himself in public.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    keane2097 wrote: »
    I personally wouldn't support giving racist bigots a platform to spout their drool.

    If he wants to stand on a soapbox on Grafton Street let him off, but fuck rolling out the Trinity red carpet for the prick.

    Racism and bigotry is a part of life. Grafton St would be full of soapboxes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    K-9 wrote: »
    Should have let him speak. Panorama had an interesting programme on the BNP last week, some ex members very critical about his performance on Question Time.
    I saw that, it was repeated last night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Dotrel


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Nick Griffin was due to speak at an event in TCD, but Trinity was forced to cancel after caving in to pressure from protesters. You won't find anyone who detests Nick Griffin and his ilk more than I, but I do support freedom of speech and I feel he should have been given the opportunity to speak.

    What say AH? Should Nick Griffin have been afforded the opportunity to speak, or was TCD right to cancel the event?

    Don't think much of Griffin myself so I guess TCD are right in that respect.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 843 ✭✭✭maygitchell


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    He should be allowed to speak. Freedom of speech is important.

    No. Not when you are a racist and promote hate crimes against people due to their origin



    If you want to talk about My Little Pony or how you tickle your bum with a bar of soap be my guest; I will defend your right to say such things as long as they are within the law.


    Much difference between the DUP and BNP anyway?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Silencing what people have to say is what the Nazis did, the protesters are nothing more than that IMO. Anyway they're nothing more then sheep being told what to do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    Leftist wrote: »
    Nah, ban him, his kind are dangerous.

    I think your kind are dangerous and you should be banned.

    See how that works ? Who decides who gets to do the banning ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Hed love a bunch of unionists **** passionately over everything he has to say...

    We're not unionist bashing are we?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Standman


    I don't think the issue is whether they should let him talk, it's whether they should have invited him in the first place. He's free to organize his own rallies and preach to his hearts content, doesn't mean a reputable university should bring him in to spout thinly veiled bigotry.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Would have made for a lively debate. Didn't Trinity cancel a speech by Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church over protests aswell?


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