Falkland islands - British or Argentine?

mattjack · 30-09-2011 11:23PM

Sand wrote: »

Does it make much difference? The Argentines didnt arrive in South America because they were invited. When Argentina gives Argentina back to the Indians they can moan about imperialism.

Indians ?do they not live in India ?

bayern282 · 30-09-2011 11:26PM

As practically the whole populace are UK descendents and Anglophone, has to be British really.The war was all a manipulation by the Thatcher administration.

What sort of accent would they have down there, anyone know?

Sonnenblumen · 01-10-2011 12:27AM

RobitTV wrote: »

The Falkland Islands (pronounced Spanish: Islas Malvinas) are an archipelago in the South Atlantic Ocean, located about 250 nautical miles - 460 km from the coast of mainland South America. The archipelago consists of East Falkland, West Falkland and 776 lesser islands. The capital, Stanley, is on East Falkland. It is an internally self-governing British Overseas Territory.

On 2 April 1982, Argentina invaded the Falkland Islands and other British territories in the South Atlantic. The military junta which had ruled Argentina since 1976 sought to maintain power by diverting public attention from the nation's poor economic performance and exploiting the long-standing feelings of the Argentines towards the islands. The war ended in British victory!

Read about the ongoing dispute - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Islands_sovereignty_dispute

So in your opinion - British or argentine islands?

Take a boat trip down there and ask the islanders. They should know.

Sonnenblumen · 01-10-2011 12:29AM

mattjack wrote: »

Indians ?do they not live in India ?

All depends, different types, eg red or brown?

Gummy Panda · 01-10-2011 12:30AM

Belongs to vikings

mattjack · 01-10-2011 01:24PM

Isn't it amazing how much interest Irish people have in the Falklands Islands

LondonIrish90 · 01-10-2011 02:30PM

Blay wrote: »

Well there it is..Keith's given his verdict..case closed:pac:

Don't be silly. The UN, NATO, the EU etc have given their verdict and identify them as a British Overseas Territory, yet to half the people who have voted that doesn't appear to matter. Even Keith won't be able to convince the masses on this one. I'm not quite sure whether it is as a result of their ignorance or their arrogance really.

LondonIrish90 · 01-10-2011 02:33PM

bamboozling wrote: »

I remember living in Argentina and this often came up. As far as I'm concerned the population of British so it is best to leave it in British hands other wise a whole box of shít get's opened up.

I can understand Argentina's claim but it was something that the government in the 20th century tried to encourage to drum up nationalism.

The funny thing is that Ireland and Peru were the only two countries to recognise Argentina's rights during the War. The Argentines always liked that, got me out of a corner or two.

If they thought you had been British they would most likely have surrendered before it got out of hand anyway :pac:

c_man · 01-10-2011 02:37PM

It's a pretty sad reflection on Irish people that this same bs topic keeps popping up

WolfForager · 01-10-2011 02:51PM

Starting to think the poll is being kept 50/50 on purpose...

gigino · 01-10-2011 02:56PM

LondonIrish90 wrote: »

Don't be silly. The UN, NATO, the EU etc have given their verdict and identify them as a British Overseas Territory, yet to half the people who have voted that doesn't appear to matter.

+1. The only thing the poll proves is how abmisally poor the Irish education system is.

ejmaztec · 01-10-2011 03:28PM

WolfForager wrote: »

Starting to think the poll is being kept 50/50 on purpose...

It'd be the same if the there was an AH poll to decide whether London was British or Martian.:pac:

losthorizon · 01-10-2011 03:32PM

dlofnep wrote: »

Seems a bit random for a wiki page for the Falklands.

The Chileans supported The British during the Falklands war. Pinochet was a great buddy of Thatcher.

tfitzgerald · 01-10-2011 03:35PM

They British I don't think Argentina ever had any thing to do with them not like us and the occupied six counties

Andy-Pandy · 01-10-2011 03:43PM

My Dad fought in that war, so ill have to say it belongs to the British.

sdanseo · 01-10-2011 04:46PM

mikemac wrote: »

The British Navy has retired their Harrier planes

And they are so short of aircraft carriers they use the French Charles de Gaulle for NATO exercises. It'll be another decade before they have new resources

They've never been so weak, could be a good time for another invasion

Yes, but after all the **** they've done helping the US there'd be 3 American battlegroups on the way the next day :P

Sonnenblumen · 01-10-2011 05:08PM

gigino wrote: »

+1. The only thing the poll proves is how abmisally poor the Irish education system is.

Did you attend a hedge school?;)

Stinicker · 01-10-2011 05:10PM

Good to see the Westbrits out in force here!

WolfForager · 01-10-2011 05:12PM

Stinicker wrote: »

Good to see the Westbrits out in force here!

Oh stfu.

Richard · 02-10-2011 11:50PM

sdeire wrote: »

Yes, but after all the **** they've done helping the US there'd be 3 American battlegroups on the way the next day :P

I don't think the Americans would be so keen to help out unless it was in their "interest". Which I doubt it would be.

LH Pathe · 03-10-2011 12:03AM

Andy-Pandy wrote: »

My Dad fought in that war, so ill have to say it belongs to the British.

yeah, you'll have to.

Look man not bein bad but I told my dad to fùck off and ousted him for a lot less

Merch · 03-10-2011 12:22AM

HavingCrack wrote: »

While they may have a trade surplus the standard of living in Argentina has plummeted dramatically. Something close to 40% are living below the poverty line. It's a hard one to call. Widespread poverty versus IMF domination...

They were professional soldiers Keith, not volunteers, it was their job. I doubt many people, Argentine or British, would willingly die for the Falklands

Cold War politics made for extremely creepy bedfellows so you never know, the enemy of my enemy is my friend etc. However the Argentinian junta was far closer to the US than the Soviet Union from what I remember.

The US was never going to turn its back on its main ally in NATO, even if they didnt always see eye to eye, anyway the brits were caught off gaurd, no one knew where it was before it started, the US supplied the brits with the ammo and missles they needed/should have had/probably couldnt afford as their country was fooked at the time. However close the Argentines were to the US, Im sure that was to serve mutual best interests, they never had their support like the British had.

nice_very · 03-10-2011 02:02AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BniyC33QdjM&feature=related

whubee · 03-10-2011 02:10AM

40,000,000 cant make use of the 12,000 sq km of islands cause 3000 say so.
many of whom live there part time and were born 10,000 km away.

(awaits self determination argument)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYeFcSq7Mxg

chucken1 · 03-10-2011 02:49AM

Looks like its not that near to England to me

grenache · 03-10-2011 02:59AM

The British colonised the Falklands. The Argentines missed their chance. The inhabitants of the islands have several times stated they wish to remain British subjects. I'm no fan of imperialism, but the British claim to the Falklands is much stronger.

LH Pathe · 03-10-2011 03:05AM

Tell you what though you'd have to be totally naive to roll out the red carpet to the all encompassing concept of britain, which England has been hiding behind a lot lately.. like we did a few month back when pledging our allegiance to uk / us and their escapades. at least come on your and your own countries accord, dick'eds.. These are soft In the head times I tell thee

/and anyone that interbreeds with em is a sellout. you're just like my aunty

nice_very · 03-10-2011 04:43AM

another song.. sorry mods if it does'nt work out for me regarding the taga, I'm just very un-internetty :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1iySNMPGvU

Manic Moran · 03-10-2011 05:58AM

chucken1 wrote: »

Looks like its not that near to England to me

Not all that near to Spain either. Why should Argentina not be under Indian (South American type) control?

The Argentinians even had a chance of controlling the islands before the British took it over. They ballsed it up entirely, it ended up virtually a pirate den, and after the denizens picked on an American merchant vessel, the local US warship kicked everyone off back to Argentina. Then the British set up shop to fill the gap.

NtM

BoDiddly · 03-10-2011 06:28AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothers_of_the_Plaza_de_Mayo

Falkland islands - British or Argentine?

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