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Use of the word "rape" in everyday conversation

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  • #32
    Giselle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭Giselle


    marienbad wrote: »
    In the natural ebb and flow of conversation things are said and it is impossible to police it even if we wanted to.

    No its not, and we do it all the time already. If I was in a nursing home full of elderly people, swearing would be off the table, as its likely to offend, if I'm in the company of people of colour then other words are unacceptable, if I'm in the company of new mothers, they're unlikely to appreciate dead baby jokes.

    Of course people have the right to say whatever they want, regardless of the feelings of others, but there's all kinds of reasons why they don't, or shouldn't, and only one of them is a desire to be ultra pc.

    Its not about policing, its about manners, context, and sensitivity. Its really not that big a deal.


  • #33
    18AD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭18AD


    Is the point here that people should not be allowed to be insensitive even if they so wish?

    However offensive that behaviour may turn out to be I think people should be entitled to do it. How else are we to know who nice people are if we tell the not so nice people to keep their strange opinions to themselves?


  • #34
    marienbad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    Giselle wrote: »
    No its not, and we do it all the time already. If I was in a nursing home full of elderly people, swearing would be off the table, as its likely to offend, if I'm in the company of people of colour then other words are unacceptable, if I'm in the company of new mothers, they're unlikely to appreciate dead baby jokes.

    Of course people have the right to say whatever they want, regardless of the feelings of others, but there's all kinds of reasons why they don't, or shouldn't, and only one of them is a desire to be ultra pc.

    Its not about policing, its about manners, context, and sensitivity. Its really not that big a deal.

    I have no problem with this at all Giselle, but it it is when the should'nt becomes can't that I have a problem.

    And I agree it is not a big deal, other may disagree though which is what I find a bit scary.


  • #35
    cat_rant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭cat_rant


    Its not about policing, its about manners, context, and sensitivity. Its really not that big a deal.
    Giselle is right.

    It is about manners, context and sensitivity. Not going to go into details but as someone who overcame a serious sexual assault some years back, I find the common day use of the word as a flip remark vulgar and offensive. I don't deny people's right to use it as they please. But is does influence my opinion of the person in question.

    Generally though I find that I would not want to associate with said people, it's a sure indicator of their character :rolleyes:


  • #36
    Giselle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭Giselle


    cat_rant wrote: »
    Its not about policing, its about manners, context, and sensitivity. Its really not that big a deal.

    It is about manners, context and sensitivity, not going to go into details but as someone who overcame a serious sexual assault some years back. I find the common day use of the word as a flip remark vulgar and offensive. I don't deny people's right to use it as they please. But is does influence my opinion of the person in question.

    Generally though I find that I would not want to associate with said people, it's a sure indicator of their character :rolleyes:

    I don't really get why you quoted me, since we're in agreement.


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  • #37
    cat_rant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭cat_rant


    Sorry Giselle,

    I meant to quote you, because I think it is the most sensible reply so far to this thread and sums up very nicely the point your making. Original post edited to reflect the fact that I was agreeing with you.

    :p


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