Hunky Dory girls are back

FatherLen · 05-09-2011 02:06PM

Feeona wrote: »

Yeah flutterflye, I don't believe you either. If you really drive like a man, how many fatal accidents have you caused?

here, thats just not fair. one male has insulted females. there is no need to get catty and insult the rest of us.
i for one disagree with what has been said about this driving like a man/woman bullshit. but i and men and woman have been insulted anyway.

flutterflye · 05-09-2011 02:06PM

I'm really tired right now, so can someone explain to me why gender wars is going on again???
I seemed to have missed something.

Oh and I said I drive like a man, not a boy racer.

opinion guy · 05-09-2011 02:06PM

o1s1n wrote: »

Can you think of another ad with a product for women objectifying men other than that and the recent Maltesers one?

To be honest with you I tend to flick the channel or just mentally tune out the tv when ads are on so nothing comes to mind - but I will pay attention from now on. But I would say plenty of ads with lads showing off their 6 packs.

There are plenty of ads that objectify women selling products for women by the way - nivea ones come to mind. Special K is another one.

But my point before seems to be missed. This hunkydorys ad is pretty much the standard level of ad you would get in UK or mainland europe. I don't understand why it gets such a prudish reaction here.

I would also ad that there is an element of sarcasm/irony/humour in the ad that its not just purely about sexuality

Galtee · 05-09-2011 02:07PM

o1s1n wrote: »

LaCoste! I remember that.

I also distinctly remember a load of guys I know going mental complaining about it.

Then they are not real guys.

Eve_Dublin · 05-09-2011 02:10PM

flutterflye wrote: »

I'm really tired right now, so can someone explain to me why gender wars is going on again???
I seemed to have missed something..

Because they can't get a ride. Same reason as always.

gargleblaster · 05-09-2011 02:10PM

These kinds of ads are actually banned in Norway and Denmark. I think they have the right idea there, and hope it catches on.

And no, I don't see this the same as ads where men are portrayed as fools. They are not used or viewed as things.

Feeona · 05-09-2011 02:10PM

FatherLen wrote: »

here, thats just not fair. one male has insulted females. there is no need to get catty and insult the rest of us.
i for one disagree with what has been said about this driving like a man/woman bullshit. but i and men and woman have been insulted anyway.

Well it is After Hours, and I've seen far worse written about women on a regular basis

o1s1n · 05-09-2011 02:11PM

opinion guy wrote: »

To be honest with you I tend to flick the channel or just mentally tune out the tv when ads are on so nothing comes to mind - but I will pay attention from now on. But I would say plenty of ads with lads showing off their 6 packs.

There are plenty of ads that objectify women selling products for women by the way - nivea ones come to mind. Special K is another one.

But my point before seems to be missed. This hunkydorys ad is pretty much the standard level of ad you would get in UK or mainland europe. I don't understand why it gets such a prudish reaction here.

I would also ad that there is an element of sarcasm/irony/humour in the ad that its not just purely about sexuality

I'm just putting it down to saturation level. In my own observation anyway, there are far more ads like this with scantily clad women. They're all over magazines. Everywhere. Therefore I can understand when some women get pissed off over a giant pair of tits on a poster.

Same way I'd be slightly annoyed if I had to look at a huge schlong when I opened my paper at 7am.

/edit - feck, you know you're getting old when you start using the term 'scantily clad'

Galtee · 05-09-2011 02:12PM

flutterflye wrote: »

I'm really tired right now, so can someone explain to me why gender wars is going on again???
I seemed to have missed something.

Oh and I said I drive like a man, not a boy racer.

It's so we can all kiss and make up later. So how about driving over to my place and we can put this nonsense behind us? Let me know what time you're coming at so I can warn the neighbours to give them time to get themselves and their cars off the streets LOL I'm kidding LOL

citytillidie · 05-09-2011 02:15PM

o1s1n wrote: »

Can you think of another ad with a product for women objectifying men other than that and the recent Maltesers one?

Minstrels one with the male stippers
Aero one with the guy in just a towel
Package holiday one where camera zooms into men and says ladies pick your perfect holiday package

Galtee · 05-09-2011 02:27PM

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

Because they can't get a ride. Same reason as always.

I love honest comments like this because just for a while you ladies forget the charade and climb down off your high horse and show us men what we already know which is that, fundamentally you're just like we are

dr.bollocko · 05-09-2011 02:30PM

Galtee wrote: »

It's so we can all kiss and make up later. So how about driving over to my place and we can put this nonsense behind us? Let me know what time you're coming at so I can warn the neighbours to give them time to get themselves and their cars off the streets LOL I'm kidding LOL

mod:
You've had enough fun.
Post in this thread again = ban.

Samba · 05-09-2011 02:31PM

Are we discussing the ad campaign, or have we now just reverted to the common re-occurring theme of AH, the great battle of the sexes?

I've lost count of the number of threads that have descended into people taking pot shots at the opposite sex.

Sex sells, simple as, always has and always will, while most of these sultry adds tend to target a male demographic, it works both ways and the changes in society are reflected in the media with a growing number of adds that target a female demographic, using sex as the selling point.

C'est un véritable scandale!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKBE0GgRiFE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8VOWFiTxxU

optogirl · 05-09-2011 02:31PM

Galtee wrote: »

I love honest comments like this because just for a while you ladies forget the charade

What charade? you hang around with some sad women if this is your view of females

Samich · 05-09-2011 02:37PM

I'd love a bag of hunky dory salt n vinegar now. Shows the ads work, not because of the boobs though, just because it's talked about alot and makes me think how nice hunky dorys are

opinion guy · 05-09-2011 02:40PM

o1s1n wrote: »

LaCoste! I remember that.

I also distinctly remember a load of guys I know going mental complaining about it.

Seriously ?? Why ? Also prudes. Honestly we are jsut so hung up on this rubbish in Ireland.

Oh I spotted another one - there was an Ad on tv a while ago for some new rom-com rubbish - didn't catch the name. Anyhow they show scene where dude takes off his top pre-shagging session and is super cut - an the girl says 'oh my God its like you are airbrushed'. Ok funny joke - but also using this guys bod to advertise the movie.

o1s1n wrote: »

I'm just putting it down to saturation level. In my own observation anyway, there are far more ads like this with scantily clad women. They're all over magazines. Everywhere. Therefore I can understand when some women get pissed off over a giant pair of tits on a poster.

Honestly why would it bother anyone unless they have their own body issues ?

Same way I'd be slightly annoyed if I had to look at a huge schlong when I opened my paper at 7am.

No thats not the same. If we were talkign about vagina's on ads that would be the same. So lets say its similar to seeing a naked male torso with abs on display - that you see in every magazine and many tv ads.

Again why would it bother you unless you have issues about your own body ?

See go to somewhere like Germany. These images everywhere. Nobody bats an eyelid. They all just get on with things. They also are very unashamed of their own bodies. Its pretty normal in parks/rivers etc in German towns and cities to see folks sunbathing nude - be the scorching hot young things or fat grannies/grandas. Nobody cares. Its just not an issue.
Frankly, they are just alot more grown up about nudity and body image over there

Logical Fallacy · 05-09-2011 02:40PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

That's true, it does whiff of desperation with them dipping into this well (matron!) for a second time, and basically cutting and pasting the rugby ads.

Not at all.

The ad worked, their sales went up, they obviously didn't suffer enough public backlash or slaps on the wrist to make this ad a bad idea.

In effect that ad was perfect and running similar again is just good business.

Rabidlamb · 05-09-2011 02:42PM

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Surely the feminist groups won't bite again, the must have copped on that they're the ones giving this whole thing oxygen.

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

Because this thread was started by a woman and most of the posters have been women....hmmm

Can you actually show me physical evidence of these feminist groups complaining or are you just talking out of your hole?

Talk about posters ruining the craic and bringing the buzz down EVERY SINGLE TIME. BOOOOOOOORING!!

Many of the female contributors can see the obvious funny side but it only takes one compliant then the media latch on.
Learn to ignore it & it goes away, whinge about it then you're giving them exactly what they want.

I'm not ruining anyones buzz, I'm just here to see the great tits.

The King of Moo · 05-09-2011 02:46PM

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Not at all.

The ad worked, their sales went up, they obviously didn't suffer enough public backlash or slaps on the wrist to make this ad a bad idea.

In effect that ad was perfect and running similar again is just good business.

You're right, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that they're not doing anything original.

I guess I'd like to see more imagination in advertising but I shouldn't expect so much. I'm sure they don't want to take too much of a risk and it'll probably be just as successful as before.

Galtee · 05-09-2011 02:46PM

dr.bollocko wrote: »

mod:
You've had enough fun.
Post in this thread again = ban.

banned for what, what a load of nonsense. It's the afterhours thread. It's a bit of banter.

mod: banned.

Alopex · 05-09-2011 02:46PM

the whores who model for these ads should be ashamed of themselves

FatherLen · 05-09-2011 02:48PM

Alopex wrote: »

the whores who model for these ads should be ashamed of themselves

i wondered where this gem had been hiding.

WindSock · 05-09-2011 02:48PM

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

I want to see Mr. Tayto's winkle to even the score!

Or Sam's Spudz!

opinion guy · 05-09-2011 02:49PM

Alopex wrote: »

the whores who model for these ads should be ashamed of themselves

OK now here is some actual sexism
Whats your problem ? Why are you calling these women whores ??? Why should they be ashamed ?

darklighter · 05-09-2011 02:51PM

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

Ehh....seems to be the lads making a mountain out of a molehill here, not us And it's up to you guys to complain about those ads as well if you feel offended otherwise quit your straw-manery.

Do you actually think the complaints made to the advertising watchdog were made by a man? And from reading the thread, it seems to be mostly females complaining.

dandelionmind wrote: »

Can't understand people saying it's a brilliant advertisement, because it's not. There's no brain power or thought behind it. It's just "brilliant" in the way it uses blatant sexuality to sell a product - Nothing new there.
The advertising industry really has become a one trick pony.

Newsflash....sex sells. Has done for thousands of years. The oldest profession in the world?? Prostitution. No need to reinvent the wheel if it works fine as it already is. And if you look at most advertising, there aint too many new techniques been used.

My name is URL wrote: »

Couldn't really care less about the ads.. but what sort of mindless gobshite would buy crisps just because the ad contains boobs?

I dont know any! Plenty of attention given to the rugby ad last year and I dont know anyone who bought Hunky Dorys because of it. Most people I know are pretty loyal to their brand of choice. Me, I just buy whatevers cheapest in the shop.

gargleblaster wrote: »

These kinds of ads are actually banned in Norway and Denmark. I think they have the right idea there, and hope it catches on.

And no, I don't see this the same as ads where men are portrayed as fools. They are not used or viewed as things.

Give me ONE valid reason for banning these ads? I find it offensive were any ad portrays anyone as a fool. But were is the issue with attractive people (male or female) being used?

PrincessLola · 05-09-2011 02:53PM

I loved that Malteaser man...

mmm they really need to bring that fithy man-whore, I mean hunk back..

*fap fap fap*

Logical Fallacy · 05-09-2011 02:53PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

You're right, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that they're not doing anything original.

I guess I'd like to see more imagination in advertising but I shouldn't expect so much. I'm sure they don't want to take too much of a risk and it'll probably be just as successful as before.

Very occasionally there is a really good ad, and ads have had a major roll in pushing creative thought over the last 70 years...but it really does seem to be going down hill.

People complain about stuff a lot more and companies tend to worry about it but if they can parley complaining into profit they have a win win situation.

Alopex wrote: »

the whores who model for these ads should be ashamed of themselves

Why?

Rabidlamb · 05-09-2011 02:53PM

Alopex wrote: »

the whores who model for these ads should be ashamed of themselves

Quality ball hopping right there, look & learn people.

Blazer · 05-09-2011 02:55PM

starbelgrade wrote: »

Holy friggin moley....

http://www.hunkydorys.ie/media/wallpaper/kelly/1920x1200-kelly.jpg

:eek:

Kelly is fantastic....miles better than that Salpa lass or any of the other ones..

Alopex · 05-09-2011 02:57PM

opinion guy wrote: »

OK now here is some actual sexism
Whats your problem ? Why are you calling these women whores ??? Why should they be ashamed ?

Getting a few handy quid in the process objectifying women. These campaigns diminish the intellectual value of women in society's eyes

Hunky Dory girls are back

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