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Who Really Reads Ebooks

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Antilles


    I think the only rational way to decide this is to force everybody to buy and use Kindles for a year. Then after that they can decide for themselves, and those who don't want a Kindle can be put to work in underground salt mines.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,087 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Chinafoot wrote: »
    Don't forget that Kindles can't currently be used for library ebooks.

    Do they read .epubs and PDFs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    Chinafoot wrote: »
    Don't forget that Kindles can't currently be used for library ebooks.

    I heard they could. What can you use for library e-books then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    EileenG wrote: »
    I heard they could. What can you use for library e-books then?

    Library eBooks? whats that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    Haven't checked it out yet, but I was told that in September, most libraries would be offering e-books. You download your e-book, and it vanishes after three weeks, so you don't have to return it. Sounds perfect.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 645 ✭✭✭chicken fingers


    Whats the ebook process in a library?

    Anybody know much does the government pay in royalties each time an adult borrows an ebook form the library?
    And if it requires an actual person to process the transaction, I wonder what that costs in total, salary, pensions etc per book. I'd be willing to bet that the government is paying more per book read than it would cost the individual to buy their own copy for keeps.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    Perhaps its books out of copyright?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    Whats the ebook process in a library?

    Anybody know much does the government pay in royalties each time an adult borrows an ebook form the library?
    And if it requires an actual person to process the transaction, I wonder what that costs in total, salary, pensions etc per book. I'd be willing to bet that the government is paying more per book read than it would cost the individual to buy their own copy for keeps.

    Surely this applies to all library books? And I assume that e-books get a small royalty per loan, the same as paper books do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    Do they read .epubs and PDFs?
    ePUB - No, although there is software (free) that can convert non-DRM* protected ePUB to a format recognised by Kindle.

    PDF's - Yes, but not without a few drawbacks. Small screen size (you could use the larger DX but IMO its too big for an eBook reader). Inability to change font size (you can zoom but its a tad cumbersome). I've put a few travel books on my GFs and it worked well but good eyesight is essential.

    A few people still making the erroneous comparison between tablets and Kindles. Try reading a Kindle Vs iPad for a couple of hours and see how your eyes react. Also bring a kindle / iPad to the beach on a sunny day (where you might normally read a paper book) and observe the differences.

    Kindle Vs Nook...........Kindle wins
    Nook Vs iPad.............iPad
    Kindle Vs iPad............Kindle (as a dedicated eReader)


    *IIRC Amazon's problem isn't so much with the ePub format, its more concerned with the DRM protection, which for the most part is owned by Adobe. Amazon have their own copyright protection software and don't want to pay Adobe for use of theirs - of course even if they did pay Adobe it doesn't neccessarily mean all ePub ebooks will work if they are using non Adobe drm protection


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭Kinski


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    PDF's - Yes, but not without a few drawbacks. Small screen size (you could use the larger DX but IMO its too big for an eBook reader).

    I might be wrong, but AFAIK the Kindle DX Graphite is second-gen software in third gen hardware; as such, the PDF support is not as good as the Kindle 3 (i.e. not all PDFs will be readable on it.)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    I'm still using my phone as a kindle, but I've found a few websites with books I want to read, but they download as ePubs. Does anyone know of an ePub reader that I can download to an Android phone?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭Kinski


    EileenG wrote: »
    I'm still using my phone as a kindle, but I've found a few websites with books I want to read, but they download as ePubs. Does anyone know of an ePub reader that I can download to an Android phone?

    Aldiko, but I've never used it so I can't comment on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,419 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    I think a lot depends on pricing. I use a Kindle DX for mainly technical computing books and I won't buy paper copies.

    I won't spend the usual $30 + on an ebook because frankly I could download the PDF for free. I do however buy them from Amazon when they are priced around $10. It just seems wrong to charge for an eBook the same price as teenager equivalent.

    Imho, it's much better to sell thousands of copies at $1 than a few hundred at $10 as it makes for better impulse purchasing.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,087 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    Try reading a Kindle Vs iPad for a couple of hours and see how your eyes react. Also bring a kindle / iPad to the beach on a sunny day (where you might normally read a paper book) and observe the differences.

    The idea of reading a book of any decription on a beach just seems ridiculous to me, let alone exposing expensive electronics to sand and water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    Try reading a Kindle Vs iPad for a couple of hours and see how your eyes react. Also bring a kindle / iPad to the beach on a sunny day (where you might normally read a paper book) and observe the differences.

    I read ebooks on my iPad in bed. A Kindle wouldn't be much good to me there because my girlfriend tends to be asleep beside me, and a standing light would keep her awake.

    As for the argument that Kindles and Nooks are easier to read on than tablets, I accept that, but honestly I'm so used to reading off my laptop screen or my iPad screen that reading my books off them as well doesn't make that much difference to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    The idea of reading a book of any decription on a beach just seems ridiculous to me....

    I would have thought thats the perfect place for a book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    BostonB wrote: »
    I would have thought thats the perfect place for a book.

    No, I'm with Pickarooney on this. Books are best read outside cafés, on balconies or in bed.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,087 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    BostonB wrote: »
    I would have thought thats the perfect place for a book.

    The beach is for swimming, romantic walks and kicking sand on people who read books.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    Its traditional to swim in the sea, not the beach, and perhaps you're reading the wrong books if your idea of romantic, is kicking sand on people. Just maybe...:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭Hrududu


    EileenG wrote: »
    I'm still using my phone as a kindle, but I've found a few websites with books I want to read, but they download as ePubs. Does anyone know of an ePub reader that I can download to an Android phone?
    If you download Calibre it will convert the ePub to a format the Kindle (or Kindle app) can read.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,087 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    I've had fairly poor results with Calibre. Aldiko is good for android, as is FBreader.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    Calibre is sadly pretty linuxy - powerful (as far as I can tell), but extremely clunky and difficult to use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    I've had fairly poor results with Calibre. Aldiko is good for android, as is FBreader.

    How do I use Alkido to read books that are not in its library?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,087 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    EileenG wrote: »
    How do I use Alkido to read books that are not in its library?

    Click on the 'home' icon in the top left of Aldiko and there should be a set of options including SD Card. If the file is on an internal or external (micro)SD card you should be able to browse to it. If it's on another storage device attached to the phone, just use the up arrow to browse up a level and then into the storage device. Once you find the file you have an option to import it into the library.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    Click on the 'home' icon in the top left of Aldiko and there should be a set of options including SD Card. If the file is on an internal or external (micro)SD card you should be able to browse to it. If it's on another storage device attached to the phone, just use the up arrow to browse up a level and then into the storage device. Once you find the file you have an option to import it into the library.

    Thanks. I feel like a cavewoman.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,087 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    I spent ten minutes cursing the applications inability to recognise my USB stick and deleted the program and only then asked on a forum how to read non-SD cards, if it's any consolation :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,746 ✭✭✭✭FewFew


    My Kindles arrived today! Yay! Nearly lost the fecking things. I moved office today and the porters left it on my old desk. I assumed it was one of many empty boxes, then I noticed a little Amazon logo! Yay! I was afraid it would take a week as suggested.
    Then I had the problem of which of the two Kindles was mine. They looked identical, but one had 3G and the other doesn't. Lucky pick on my part. So far I must say it's awfully slick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭ThePinkCage


    You're all converting me!

    I'm still wondering if my publishers wer e a bit ahead of the curve though. My book isn't easy to get in bookshops for a variety of reasons and most of the people I talk to are wondering why they can't get it in bookshops. I say to them it's freely available on the Internet, but haven't noticed any great interest in ebooks among my extended circle of friends.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    You're all converting me!

    I'm still wondering if my publishers wer e a bit ahead of the curve though. My book isn't easy to get in bookshops for a variety of reasons and most of the people I talk to are wondering why they can't get it in bookshops. I say to them it's freely available on the Internet, but haven't noticed any great interest in ebooks among my extended circle of friends.

    This is an issue for e-books. I've noticed that any of my friends who have bought my book as a Kindle are mostly on Facebook or Boards etc. The majority of my friends and all my family have said they'll wait for the paperback version. As far as I can determine from looking at the Amazon info on people who buy my book, they are strangers who are attracted to that type of story.l


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    Perhaps friends and family aren't representative of your main audience.


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