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RAW 25/7/11 Thread - New Champion Crowned? *Spoilers*

  • 24-07-2011 11:46AM
    #1
    jaykhunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭


    20110718_raw_rey_miz_l.jpg

    from WWE.com :
    In the final round of the WWE Championship Tournament, Rey Mysterio and The Miz meet on the next Raw to determine the undisputed holder of WWE's golden prize. Who will be crowned the new WWE Champion?

    They'll have to show CM Punk/Comic-Con footage because it promotes WWE/Mattel and furthers the storyline. Probably just a few photos.

    I also get the sneaky feeling that a new champion won't be crowned, rather it'll be some BS finish and it'll be a triple threat at SummerSlam instead (add in Cena). If not, are you going for Miz or Rey Rey?

    I'm sure we'll get another promo from Señor Dinero en el Banco. I wonder if Beth Phoenix's surprising number of votes a few months back in the "Power to the People" RAW has spurred WWE on to renew a push?


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  • #2
    DM_7
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,758 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Has to be Miz. He is the complete opposite to Punk with his suits, cathphrases, no tatoos, fohawk etc.


  • #3
    parker kent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    jaykhunter wrote: »
    I wonder if Beth Phoenix's surprising number of votes a few months back in the "Power to the People" RAW has spurred WWE on to renew a push?

    Probably part of Punk's new contract!


  • #4
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    If the plan is for Punk to come back and face the eventual champion, then I reckon Rey should win. Not only does it set up Rey vs Cena which would be a big AND fresh main event for Summerslam, it also sets up Rey vs Punk which, although done to death, we know is a match which can live up to the hype.

    If Miz wins, he drops it straight to Cena and thats the end of his involvement. He just doesn't fit into the Punk angle in my eyes.

    I'm hoping Ryder will have something to do; if they want to push HHH as being "different" to Vince, giving Ryder a chance to prove himself would go over well with a lot of fans.

    I also hope they don't achknowledge Punk's comic-con appearance on Raw. I don't even like they are doing it on WWE.com. At most, they should run a hacking angle with Punk pictures appearing briefly and then disappearing the next day. At most, HHH should mention it but not publicise it.

    Unless, I suppose, they go with the angle that HHH is going to try and convince Punk to come back and he's going to start taunting him or something...


  • #5
    parker kent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    CM Punk could "pay for advertising" on Raw at some stage (The following announcement has been paid for by the New World Order CM Punk :pac:). Or the old classic "Hey I just bought a ticket like everybody else" line. I'm sure they'll eventually get round to stuff like that.


  • #6
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    parker kent wrote: »
    CM Punk could "pay for advertising" on Raw at some stage (The following announcement has been paid for by the New World Order CM Punk :pac:). Or the old classic "Hey I just bought a ticket like everybody else" line. I'm sure they'll eventually get round to stuff like that.

    I think I said this on here before but it would not hugely surprise me to see Punk front row at Summerslam with Cabana beside him, holding up signs and using the megaphone to disrupt matches. Maybe even cost Cena the title or something...


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  • #7
    jaykhunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    there's definitely a delicate balance between staying true to the angle (Punk's gone from WWE) and having him return as he's the hottest thing in wrestling at the moment. I can definitely see both PK and TSC's angles being used. It's also why i think WWE should hold off crowning a new WWE champion until Summerslam :)


  • #8
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    20110718_raw_rey_miz_l.jpg

    Cruiserweight or World Champion? :P


  • #9
    Rjd2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,322 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    jaykhunter wrote: »
    I'm sure we'll get another promo from Señor Dinero en el Banco. I wonder if Beth Phoenix's surprising number of votes a few months back in the "Power to the People" RAW has spurred WWE on to renew a push?

    I thought Kelly won this quite easily?:confused:

    Getting more votes than Eve is not something to brag about sadly. Eve may be sexy as hell and a useful worker but damn she is so unover its unreal even for a diva. :eek::eek:


  • #10
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Rey wins then Del Rio cashes in and wins :p

    I do hope the GM situation is resolved either revealed or dropped


  • #11
    backrow67n8
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    Whats the chances of Mick Foley returnin to be the Anonymous GM?


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  • #12
    rovert
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    backrow67n8 wrote: »
    Whats the chances of Mick Foley returnin to be the Anonymous GM?

    If Triple H is in legit control these days then I dont see "Homeless Harry" coming back.


  • #13
    The Volt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,957 ✭✭✭The Volt


    backrow67n8 wrote: »
    Whats the chances of Mick Foley returnin to be the Anonymous GM?
    I don't think there will be a reveal of the Raw GM. I think Triple H will play the on air person in charge for the next few weeks. I think with Chairman Triple H running things we will see a few new things to make it feel like Triple H is actually running things. I'm hoping that there will be a NEW WWE Championship Belt for the winner of the tournament. They should have a new set up for Raw including new intro and theme song. I really think that if the WWE wants this Chairman Triple H to be a successful storyline they need to play it up like things are different now.


  • #14
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Voltwad wrote: »
    I don't think there will be a reveal of the Raw GM. I think Triple H will play the on air person in charge for the next few weeks. I think with Chairman Triple H running things we will see a few new things to make it feel like Triple H is actually running things. I'm hoping that there will be a NEW WWE Championship Belt for the winner of the tournament. They should have a new set up for Raw including new intro and theme song. I really think that if the WWE wants this Chairman Triple H to be a successful storyline they need to play it up like things are different now.

    Yeah one of the podcasts I listened to really stressed that. Along with more intense stuff like using different cameras angles and the structure of the show.


  • #15
    CMpunked
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    But HHH is chairman of the whole wwe now, why would he only change raw?


  • #16
    Dancor
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    rovert wrote: »
    backrow67n8 wrote: »
    Whats the chances of Mick Foley returnin to be the Anonymous GM?

    If Triple H is in legit control these days then I dont see "Homeless Harry" coming back.

    Is There legit beef between them now?


  • #17
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Dancor wrote: »
    Is There legit beef between them now?

    More like ten years. Foley talks about it in his third book. Foley feels that HHH never said thank you for helping him get over/Foley and others think HHH is resentful of how much Foley was a part of getting HHH over as more than a midcarder in 1997 and then as a credible Champion in 1999/2000. Foley also called Hunter out for calling Lillian Garcia a horse face on Raw.

    On Hunter's end HHH asked Foley for help on Hunter's workout book/biography and Foley passed on it.

    Triple H's nickname in production meetings and such like is Homeless Harry as well...he dresses like a tramp.


  • #18
    fulhamfanincork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭fulhamfanincork


    Is tonights raw worth staying up for? Last weeks was boring. Anyone got any spoilers for me?


  • #19
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    fulhamfanincork wrote: »
    Is tonights raw worth staying up for? Last weeks was boring. Anyone got any spoilers for me?

    It should be. Hunter's first show and the fact they need to set up Summerslam.


  • #20
    Insect Overlord
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    fulhamfanincork wrote: »
    Is tonights raw worth staying up for? Last weeks was boring. Anyone got any spoilers for me?

    Raw is live this week. We don't know what's going to happen on it any more than you do! :) So the choice is yours. Check out this week's Raw thread for more info.


  • #21
    partyndbs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭partyndbs


    somethings gonna happen in the main event(rey match) if it does happen which i dont think it will, think its gonna be a clean slate..


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  • #22
    jaykhunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    If u've reservations staying up til after 4am just record it and stay off the internet until you've watched it Tuesday night :)


  • #23
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    jaykhunter wrote: »
    If u've reservations staying up til after 4am just record it and stay off the internet until you've watched it Tuesday night :)

    And complain all Tuesday about spoilers in every thread. :P


  • #24
    Insect Overlord
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    partyndbs wrote: »
    somethings gonna happen in the main event(rey match) if it does happen which i dont think it will, think its gonna be a clean slate..

    Eh, dude... Do you even read your posts before you submit them..? :confused:


  • #25
    chasenlife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭chasenlife


    How can they crown a new champion when Punk has the title?

    What will happen when Punk comes back with the proper championship, and there's a "champion" with a new title.

    Sorry for my ignorance but I've only just started to get back into the Wwe in recent weeks.

    Have to say I enjoy Smackdown more than Raw these days.


  • #26
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I hope the comic con Punk encounter is mentioned

    I think HHH will try and organise a meeting with Punk to "try and get him to re-sign"


  • #27
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    chasenlife wrote: »
    How can they crown a new champion when Punk has the title?

    What will happen when Punk comes back with the proper championship, and there's a "champion" with a new title.

    You should work in WWE's PR department. :pac: Yeah that is the hook for tonight and beyond.

    In 1993 Shawn Michaels then IC Champ failed a real drug test so WWE stripped him of the belt only for Razor Ramon to win the IC title. Few months later Michaels came back wearing the IC title declaring himself as the real Champion. So they hung both belts above the ring in a Ladder match at Wrestlemania X.

    That's one way it could play out.


  • #28
    jaykhunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    Hey bro, welcome to PW boards! We're all amigos here :) Great to hear Punk has persuaded old fans to come back.

    kayfabe-wise they've stripped CM Punk of the WWE title and have created a tournament to crown a new one.

    When it happens in UFC, where a champion is injured for an extended period, they create an interrim champion, and when the original/"real" champion comes back they fight to amalgamate the belts. I imagine a similar thing will happen in WWE. Whenever Punk comes back he'll challenge whoever is holding it.

    They did run this interrim storyline with the Intercontinental Championship with Shawn Michaels and Razor Ramon in 1994.


  • #29
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Seriously tho Alberto is cashing in tonight. :p


  • #30
    jaykhunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    me no likey short title reigns. Because whatever happens sooner than later, Cena's getting that title and fighting Punk. It'd be nice if WWE didn't devalue the belt by having two meaningless title reigns inbetween that. Especially for someone's first title win.


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  • #31
    chasenlife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭chasenlife


    rovert wrote: »
    In 1993 Shawn Michaels then IC Champ failed a real drug test so WWE stripped him of the belt only for Razor Ramon to win the IC title. Few months later Michaels came back wearing the IC title declaring himself as the real Champion. So they hung both belts above the ring in a Ladder match at Wrestlemania X.

    That's one way it could play out.
    jaykhunter wrote: »
    They did run this interrim storyline with the Intercontinental Championship with Shawn Michaels and Razor Ramon in 1994.
    That would be interesting. I really hope that Punk does not lose the title when he comes back, especially to Cena.

    Punk needs an extended run as champion, while I think it would do Cena the world of good to back off for a while. Maybe give younger wrestlers a push by being involved in good matches with them.


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