What modern films will become classics? NO LISTING

don ramo · 22-07-2011 02:48PM

3 that come to mind would be The Pianist, A Beautiful Mind and Children of Men,

to the best of my knowledge both The Pianist and A Beautiful Mind are true to there time, and when people rewatch these films they will always get a sense of what it was like during these times (more The Pianist that A Beautiful Mind), that i think is what will make these films so great,

or it could be Inglorious Basterds and our grandkids will believe that it was brad pitt and crew killed hitler in a theatre:D

and Children of Men paints a bleak future for the possible end of the human race, and just the fact it didnt turn out like that will make it a classic in years to come,

i always enjoy anything set in the future where the future in the film has come and gone and were still earth bound

Kettle316 · 22-07-2011 04:34PM

Pans Labyrinth - Possibly the darkest fairy tale every told?? It's feckin excellent though!!

The Assassination of Jesse James..... - A film that will definitely be remembered because of the brilliant performances by both Brad Pitt and Casey Affleck as well as the rest of the cast!!

Da Shins Kelly · 22-07-2011 05:45PM

Let The Right One In - Thoughtful, dramatic, great acting, great plot, and quite disturbing scenes in places.

28 Days Later - As far as horror goes, I think it will stand up as a classic of that genre. It's got some genuinely scary scenes, and an interesting plot.

Wall-E - In my opinion, the best animation ever made by Pixar. It's got an incredibly profound message for a children's movie, and it's a message that is relevant today, and will continue to be for future generations. The opening half hour of it is completely mesmerising without anyone even having to utter a single word - that scene alone is the greatest sequence in the history of animated film, in my opinion. I was completely taken by surprise when I brought my niece to it. It's the deepest piece of work done by Pixar, and while it has some heart-warming and funny moments, it's hard to shake the feeling of desolation and coldness about it. It's a genuine work of art.

Inglorious Basterds - It's one of the best movies Tarantino has made. Although I wouldn't put it higher than Pulp Fiction, I think it's one of the best films to come out recently. It's very engaging, with interesting characters and, as usual, great dialogue.

There Will Be Blood - I don't think it would hold up as a classic without Daniel Day Lewis, but I think his performance pushes it up. I think it will be viewed as a classic if only for his masterclass.

American Beauty - I know in some places it is already considered a classic, but I think it will continue to hold up as the years go on. I don't think its message will ever lose relevance. I don't think it's as utterly flawless as some would have you think, but I think it is an excellent examination of the American Dream, and I think that's something that will continue to be of great interest to people, especially as the US continues to so aggressively export its culture as it loses its stranglehold on global economics and Asia comes to the fore.

Little Miss Sunshine - A funny, sad and authentic look at the dysfunctional family. I think most people can find something to relate to in this movie. It's a feel-good movie with some hilarious moments, as well as having some serious undertones and genuinely moving scenes and dialogue.

The Pianist - A very true to life depiction of the times, it seems. Some very sad moments, and beautiful images of snow-covered and barren scenery and demolished towns that send chills down the spine. Beautifully acted and directed. Real proof that despite what may be personal faults, Roman Polanski has some incredible artistic vision.

Fight Club - It's got a very thought-provoking message about modern life, asking some very serious questions. I think it will continue to have relevance, especially to young men.

Brokeback Mountain - A wonderfully acted, directed and crafted love story. Completely unforgettable once seen. A tragic and groundbreakingly realistic portrayal of gay romance, I don't see how it won't hold up.

RoutineBites · 22-07-2011 07:54PM

Magic Beans wrote: »

What about Saving Private Ryan?

A very human story portraying all the values we hold dear executed in a perfectly portrayed war movie. Ordinary men doing extrordinary deeds.

God I hope this isn't heralded as a classic movie in fifty years time. The first twenty minutes or so of the film are visually gripping, but following that come two and half hours of utter nothingness. Honestly, if this movie didn't have Spielberg directing or Hanks starring I don't think anyone would remember it at this stage. I never understood why there are fans of this film, when other films of the war genre like, "Full Metal Jacket" are massively superior.

py2006 · 22-07-2011 08:02PM

RoutineBites wrote: »

God I hope this isn't heralded as a classic movie in fifty years time. The first twenty minutes or so of the film are visually gripping, but following that come two and half hours of utter nothingness. Honestly, if this movie didn't have Spielberg directing or Hanks starring I don't think anyone would remember it at this stage. I never understood why there are fans of this film, when other films of the war genre like, "Full Metal Jacket" are massively superior.

Wow! Surely Saving Private Ryan was the first war movie not to glamourise war?
It was extremely realistic and Wexford beach never looked so well!

callaway92 · 22-07-2011 08:04PM

Fight Club

Gladiator

In Bruges

fergal23 · 22-07-2011 08:09PM

Great thread. That is all!!

*starts d/l multiple movies*

Fysh · 22-07-2011 09:23PM

py2006 wrote: »

Wow! Surely Saving Private Ryan was the first war movie not to glamourise war?
It was extremely realistic and Wexford beach never looked so well!

Are you seriously trying to suggest that the likes of Full Metal Jacket or Apocalypse Now glamourised war?

I'm prepared to accept that Saving Private Ryan was exceptional in how it presented the sheer carnage and brutality of the D-Day landings, but given that it then went on to suggest that, at a time when the Allies were desperately trying to establish the second front required to win the war, a general would dispatch 8 soldiers to look for 1 missing soldier because of a technicality concerning his deceased brothers, I think it's actually a particularly bad offender in terms of glamourising war. Sure, it presents the violence in unflinching detail, but to suggest that in a conflict like WWII there would be resources available to go and find some MIA grunt and send him home is the realm of fairy tales.

Aidric · 22-07-2011 09:39PM

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

American Beauty - I know in some places it is already considered a classic, but I think it will continue to hold up as the years go on. I don't think its message will ever lose relevance. I don't think it's as utterly flawless as some would have you think, but I think it is an excellent examination of the American Dream, and I think that's something that will continue to be of great interest to people, especially as the US continues to so aggressively export its culture as it loses its stranglehold on global economics and Asia comes to the fore.

In full agreement. Remains my favourite film to this day although I think it's outside the criteria for this thread as it was released in 1999.

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Brokeback Mountain - A wonderfully acted, directed and crafted love story. Completely unforgettable once seen. A tragic and groundbreakingly realistic portrayal of gay romance, I don't see how it won't hold up.

Including an all time great performance by Ledger.

Two films that reached the realms of perfection for me in the last 10 years were 'Oldboy' and 'The Lives of Others'. I also have a lot of time for 'Blue Valentine'.

In terms of watchability 'The Departed' will become considered a classic.

Mindkiller · 22-07-2011 10:52PM

The only two movies in recent years that made me think 'instant classic' are There Will be Blood and No Country. Honestly, the cinematography and writing of NCFOM left me in awe.

I thought Inception was awfully exposition-heavy. For a supposed 'high-brow' thriller it felt like a very dumb and loud action movie. And it pisses me right off when people say its detractors are only people who 'didn't understand it'. I mean, come on. Even The Dark Knight dealt with a greater range of complex themes than Inception, though it suffers from similar problems with dialogue and general overwroughtness

dark crystal · 22-07-2011 11:54PM

In terms of foreign films, I'd say City of God would definitely be a contender. I've yet to meet anyone who didn't think it was anything less than brilliant.

krudler · 23-07-2011 03:19AM

py2006 wrote: »

Wow! Surely Saving Private Ryan was the first war movie not to glamourise war?
It was extremely realistic and Wexford beach never looked so well!

What? Paths Of Glory did it nearly 40 years earlier, then you have Cross Of Iron, Full Metal Jacket, Apocalypse Now, Platoon, The Deer Hunter, First Blood and Stalingrad to name but a few movies that don't glamourise war.

FlashD · 23-07-2011 08:14AM

Seems to me like everyone is just sticking up their own personal favourite films of the last 10 years. Personally I don't think that's how cult status works. It has more to do with being just a good film.

Looking through people's lists, most I have already have forgotten.

Anyway over the last 10 years, I would have to say the film that most hits all the cult status buttons is 'The Dark Knight' not because it was a box office hit or because it was a solid film.

Reasons.

The main character already has a huge dedicated older fanbase.

The death of Heath Ledger.

The film itself has a massive youth/early to late teen following, these are the people who are going to remember the film and will still be talking about it in 25-30 years.

.....the same way I go on about Raiders of the Lost Ark and Cameroon's 'Aliens'.:)

MagicMarker · 23-07-2011 09:16AM

Mr. Denton wrote: »

Synecdoche, New York

Kettle316 wrote: »

The Assassination of Jesse James.....

Two films that bored me to tears. The latter was almost saved by Casey Affleck but I eventually got fed up of waiting for the inevitable to happen and turned it off.

johnny_ultimate · 23-07-2011 10:57AM

Synecdoche New York is a remarkable film. Little to nothing can match the depth of themes it explores. Its a deeply personal film about the limits of art, the swiftness of life and all tinted by regret. If i was to level one criticism at it, its that Kaufmans direction is perhaps blander than his frequent collaborators. But its very much his vision, and is intensely individual as a result. I honestly feel it will be looked upon fondly by those who stumble upon it in times to come. Its due a critical reapprisal - or, more accurately, a more vocal defense by its small but passionate fanbase.

HazDanz · 23-07-2011 11:26AM

Lost in Translation for me. It's just one of those films that you keep coming back to due to the gripping chemistry between the two leads and the beautiful display of Japanese culture. I just really liked the simplicity of the film's concept and how there is subtle ideas going on throughout the film.

MagicMarker · 23-07-2011 11:58AM

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Synecdoche New York is a remarkable film. Little to nothing can match the depth of themes it explores. Its a deeply personal film about the limits of art, the swiftness of life and all tinted by regret. If i was to level one criticism at it, its that Kaufmans direction is perhaps blander than his frequent collaborators. But its very much his vision, and is intensely individual as a result. I honestly feel it will be looked upon fondly by those who stumble upon it in times to come. Its due a critical reapprisal - or, more accurately, a more vocal defense by its small but passionate fanbase.

I read this out in my head in Patrick Bateman's voice.

Sad Professor · 23-07-2011 12:18PM

Synecdoche New York is brilliant. I'm not so sure it will be a future classic but it certainly deserves to be. It's probably the greatest film ever made about existential dread.

duckworth · 24-07-2011 12:06PM

Sad Professor wrote: »

It's probably the greatest film ever made about existential dread.

I wouldn't go that far - Taxi Driver/Apocalypse Now/The Seventh Seal and nearly all the Kubrick films all deal with the same theme better in my opinion.

Actually, I watched Adam and Paul on telly last night and it's deals with alot of the same themes. I think it might be the best Irish film ever made.

omerin · 24-07-2011 12:33PM

Don't know if it has been mentioned but Oh Brother Where Art Thou was a great film, apologies if it was

losthorizon · 24-07-2011 07:56PM

Its already been mentioned but I agree with the nods up for Pans Labyrinth. I think also the film Mother simply for the stunning visuals, acting and storytelling and the cracking Hitchcock like thriller elements. Finally Downfall as a monumental story of the single biggest event of the 20th century - a great central performance by Ganz and a movie that lives long in the memory.

Sad Professor · 24-07-2011 10:34PM

duckworth wrote: »

I wouldn't go that far - Taxi Driver/Apocalypse Now/The Seventh Seal and nearly all the Kubrick films all deal with the same theme better in my opinion.

Those are superior films generally, but I don't necessarily agree that they deal with the theme better. Taxi Driver is more about alienation, and Apocalypse Now is more about the duality of human nature. However, you are quite right about The Seventh Seal, which is thematically very similar to Synecdoche and probably far more effective. In any case, there aren't many films that deal with the inevitability of death like those two do.

johnny_ultimate · 24-07-2011 10:59PM

Sad Professor wrote: »

Those are superior films generally, but I don't necessarily agree that they deal with the theme better. Taxi Driver is more about alienation, and Apocalypse Now is more about the duality of human nature. However, you are quite right about The Seventh Seal, which is thematically very similar to Synecdoche and probably far more effective. In any case, there aren't many films that deal with the inevitability of death like those two do.

I'd consider Synecdoche as a continuation and refinement of the themes Kaufman started tinkering about with in Adaptation, while also massively increasing the scope to engage with said existential dread (although Bergman's vast filmography is still the definitive take on all things grim!). Together, they're fascinating takes on the process of creating something, and obviously the work of someone who puts an awful lot of himself into every script he writes - literally in Adaptation! I really think Charlie Kaufman may be one of the finest cinematic minds of a generation though. I'd be the first to admit the films he's involved with can be very flawed - Human Nature, for example. But the scope, ideas and delivery of his screenplays are both terrific fun and deeply intelligent. Obviously there are plenty of other great writers out there, but in Hollywood he's out there on his own and his voice is extremely distinctive.

I remember Stranger than Fiction's Zach Helm was billed as 'the new Kaufman' (ugh, what a horrid turn of phrase) around the time it was released. And it's an OK film, but I think the forced marketing comparisons reinforce how unique Kaufman's take on genre and scripting is. STF just never breaks the rules with the same vigor and unexpectedness you find in a Kaufman film - from Being John Malkovich onwards, they've explored every twisted, brilliant alley that leads off from the initial concept, no matter what 'standards' are kicked up the arse in the process.

So yeah, IMO Kaufman is one of cinema's great contemporary geniuses, and I'd be delighted if in twenty years he enjoys all the respect and admiration he deserves.

foxyboxer · 25-07-2011 11:24AM

Sideways.

The road movie of the 00's.

krudler · 25-07-2011 01:16PM

foxyboxer wrote: »

Sideways.

The road movie of the 00's.

"I'm not drinking any FUCKING Merlot!"

FlashD · 25-07-2011 01:18PM

^^^:D

Laserface · 25-07-2011 02:26PM

i agree with lots of the films mentioned by you all..

but..i personally think there's only 1 proper masterpiece made in recent years..

Black Swan

the second time you watch it is the key

also Inception..not afraid to say i'm a total Nolan fanboy. Nice juicy scenes and music and not much cgi

MsJenjers · 28-07-2011 03:30PM

The King's Speech!

Hrududu · 28-07-2011 04:22PM

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Wall-E - In my opinion, the best animation ever made by Pixar. It's got an incredibly profound message for a children's movie, and it's a message that is relevant today, and will continue to be for future generations. The opening half hour of it is completely mesmerising without anyone even having to utter a single word - that scene alone is the greatest sequence in the history of animated film, in my opinion. I was completely taken by surprise when I brought my niece to it. It's the deepest piece of work done by Pixar, and while it has some heart-warming and funny moments, it's hard to shake the feeling of desolation and coldness about it. It's a genuine work of art.

I couldn't agree more. That first half an hour is incredible. People go on about the first 10 minutes of Up but I always thought the start of Wall-E outshone it. Not that I don't like Up.

I think films like The Prestige and No Country for Old Men will stand the test of time.

Fysh · 28-07-2011 04:31PM

Hrududu wrote: »

I couldn't agree more. That first half an hour is incredible. People go on about the first 10 minutes of Up but I always thought the start of Wall-E outshone it. Not that I don't like Up.

The problem is that Up had an astonishing opening sequence and went on to be a pretty damn good film, whereas Wall-E was a great 30-40 minute animated film stretched out to become an alright-if-rather-bloated feature-length film. Opening strongly is no good if you don't keep to that high standard later in the film.

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