Favourite Captain

IvySlayer · 13-07-2011 06:52PM #1

And here's the great debate

Who, in your opinion, was the best one? Who was your favourite?

Mine is Jean-Luc Picard. Intelligent, moral, passionate about exploration. A diplomat and a mediator. Measure of a Man is all you need to know about him. Of course, me growing up watching TNG helped sway the vote, I also think I like him more because of better storylines and plots. Also easily the best actor in Patrick Stewart.

Second is between Kirk and Sisko. I like them both. Kirks just legendary, Siskos decent enough, but Avery Brooks annoyed me.

Janeway frustrates me. Voyager was a terrible series. Her constant breaking of the Prime Directive and the Temporal Prime Directive, getting past the Borg too easily, her interactions with Q. Her voice, her squeaky clean ship every episode. Bad writing lets her down.

Hated Archer, but then again I hated everything about Enterprise. Too stockish.

nyarlothothep · 13-07-2011 10:48PM

Benjamin Sisko

Picard was such a great human that Q, an omnipotent being, basically had an affinity with him for being so much better than the rest of the species. He was human after all, he had flaws and regrets but he managed to do the right thing most of the time and if he didn't you'd be guaranteed that he would reflect like a Greek philosopher on it. Ergo a completely exceptional captain.

Consider this, most of the Starfleet elite are very reminiscent of the American military elite at least in terms of how its portrayed in popular culture, all action, little thought and highly bureaucratic/heirarchical. I'll grant that there are probably Picardian figures in the highest echelons of politics and the military although the impression I get is otherwise, but to come back to Star Trek starfleet was full of people like Captain Jellico, who shouldn't have been let loose across the galaxy, given the diplomatic mess he made with the Cardasians. Janeway was just symptomatic of the Star Fleet elite problem and it wasn't surprising that she was promoted to admiral. Her decisions were often ethically dubious, eg Tuvix, her solutions relied on brute force etc and she played the game of heirarchy.

Kirk was similar but had an independent mind, which was why he was demoted back to captain. Also he was so amazing he could get away with anything, he was the personification of charisma.

Sisko was a standard general, very tough and very much a military strategist. In terms of representing humanity's best interests I'd go for Picard first for his Socratic wisdom and insight, and Kirk second because he just pwned the galaxy.

scudzilla · 13-07-2011 10:53PM

Benjamin Sisko

I went for Picard, head and shoulders above the rest

A big kick in the balls awaits anyone who votes for Janeway

Goldstein · 13-07-2011 11:13PM

Benjamin Sisko

I'm sorry Kirk and Sisko, I love ye but this guy...

"That will be the day!!!!"

"There are FOUR lights"

"ha-ha-ha-ha"

IvySlayer · 14-07-2011 12:57AM

Benjamin Sisko

Picard has a catchy song. He wins.

Rave version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPhzN5D3g7I

Kiith · 14-07-2011 08:02AM

Benjamin Sisko

I preferred Sisko as a character, but i picked Picard as the best Captain. It's nothing against Sisko, he's just more of a general, as said above. Picard is who you want representing the Federation.

TheIrishGrover · 14-07-2011 06:01PM

Kathryn Janeway

Kiith wrote: »

I preferred Sisko as a character, but i picked Picard as the best Captain. It's nothing against Sisko, he's just more of a general, as said above. Picard is who you want representing the Federation.

I voted Sisko as I thought he was a total badass from season 3 on but now that ye said it, I think ye're right. He is more of a general than a captain. Still, for me, Kirk- Too 60's cliche; Picard- Too touchy-feely; Archer- Too bland; Janeway- Too everything annoying (starting with that voice). Sisko was just a great allround character. Hell, even his kid, Jake avoided being the annoying Star Trek kid.

I mean imagine each captain in turn giving the following monologue (uuuggghhhh Janeway.......)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-YyL7X4CWw

Amtmann · 14-07-2011 08:58PM

Kathryn Janeway

Sisko for me too. Picard always impressed me of course, but Sisko was more well-rounded. very charismatic in his own way, and someone who showed other species that humanity wasn't a pushover. In fact, Sisko oozed courage and strength, but was soft spoken when necessary, and tough as nails at other times. In the post-Wolf 359 Trek universe, with the Federation under threat from many quarters, I think Sisko was exactly the type of man you would want to represent the Federation.

Johnny Storm · 16-07-2011 09:17AM

Jean-Luc Picard

Waitaminute!
Some poor bastid has accidently voted for Janeway - surely it's not beyond our level of technology to be able to go back and edit your vote?

Kiith · 16-07-2011 10:53AM

Benjamin Sisko

Johnny Storm wrote: »

Waitaminute!
Some poor bastid has accidently voted for Janeway

Was probably a woman :P

Denerick · 17-07-2011 04:55PM

Benjamin Sisko

Jean Luc Picard is the ultimate representation of mankind - compassionate, honest, intelligent, curious, tolerant, and ocasionally not afraid to throw a punch.

KoolKid · 17-07-2011 04:58PM

Benjamin Sisko

Has to be Picard here also.
By far the best.

Kojak · 17-07-2011 04:59PM

Benjamin Sisko

Picard gets my vote, although Sisko would come a close second.

No one had voted for Archer yet. I wonder why that is?

Riskymove · 18-07-2011 09:18AM

Benjamin Sisko

Kiith wrote: »

Was probably a woman :P

johnmryan enters star trek forum noteriety for ever more!!!

Denerick · 18-07-2011 06:13PM

Benjamin Sisko

Kojak wrote: »

Picard gets my vote, although Sisko would come a close second.

No one had voted for Archer yet. I wonder why that is?

Because he is a whiny little bitch who constantly gets into fights and loses.

Also, Enterprise had some of the worst writing in the history of science fiction. The stories were full of enormous plot holes, and barely believable plot gambits. Better off forgotten, that show.

IvySlayer · 18-07-2011 09:57PM

Benjamin Sisko

Denerick wrote: »

Because he is a whiny little bitch who constantly gets into fights and loses.

Also, Enterprise had some of the worst writing in the history of science fiction. The stories were full of enormous plot holes, and barely believable plot gambits. Better off forgotten, that show.

Archer was boring. Also I'm sick of American captains so I took an instant dislike to him.

Kurn · 18-07-2011 10:01PM

Jonathan Archer

Riskymove wrote: »

Kiith wrote: »

Was probably a woman :P

johnmryan enters star trek forum noteriety for ever more!!!

What can I say. It's that sexy voice.

Johnny Storm · 20-07-2011 04:55PM

Jean-Luc Picard

Denerick wrote: »

Because he is a whiny little bitch who constantly gets into fights and loses.

Also, Enterprise had some of the worst writing in the history of science fiction. The stories were full of enormous plot holes, and barely believable plot gambits. Better off forgotten, that show.

Well said

Also, Archer was a moron. He was like George Doubleya Bush in space.

Straight Talker · 18-08-2011 06:25PM

Jean-Luc Picard

Captain Kirk for me.William Shatner really played that role perfectly.Apart from captain Picard and Worf i didn't really like the characters on the next generation.So it's Kirk for me with Captain Picard as first officer.

nyarlothothep · 18-08-2011 09:37PM

Benjamin Sisko

Johnny Storm wrote: »

Well said

Also, Archer was a moron. He was like George Doubleya Bush in space.

Well, he was also like Dr. Samuel Beckett in being a clueless buffoon though somehow judged competent enough to be tasked with a position of incredible responsibility. Dr. Beckett had 7 PhDs and somehow it all worked out for him just as it all works out for Archer even though he makes incredible blunders. My conspiracy theory about Enterprise is that Beckett actually leaped into Archer, who was a future descendent.

Amtmann · 30-08-2011 10:00PM

Kathryn Janeway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X64S1FDB6jU

azezil · 31-08-2011 10:17AM

Benjamin Sisko

Tremelo wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X64S1FDB6jU

lulz, very good

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