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Whitey Bulger arrested!!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭ToniTuddle


    Abraham wrote: »
    Seems that he has done nothing wrong for the past 15 years at least and that will have to count in his favour.

    Ha! :D
    They probably will use that bollocks line in court.
    He has helped out the FBI more than a little over the years and at considerable risk to himself, we can be absolutely certain of that and so deserves some recognition and reward for that too. In essence, after a shaky start, he sought to put things right by helping the forces of law and order even when some of the agents he had to work with were more crooked than himself.

    Ahh here! Ye have to be taking the piss :pac:
    He helped out the FBI to further his own agenda nothing to do with putting things right.

    Course he did plenty to help out local families and such along the way but there was always something in it for him no matter what.

    Is there any video evidence of the arrest yet or him being taken into jail?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 64478339


    Anyone ever read the book Old bones and shallow graves? Concice history of Irish mobsters in America from 1800s to present. Gives full story of how Winter hill gang was formed/broken up and plenty of excerts of interviews with Whitey Bulger,Pat Nee etc. Well recommended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭ToniTuddle


    64478339 wrote: »
    Anyone ever read the book Old bones and shallow graves? Concice history of Irish mobsters in America from 1800s to present. Gives full story of how Winter hill gang was formed/broken up and plenty of excerts of interviews with Whitey Bulger,Pat Nee etc. Well recommended.

    Cool must check that one out.

    Read one of this dudes books he grew up in Boston and he mentions Whitey in it. It's fascinating what went on over there during that time!

    http://www.michaelpatrickmacdonald.com/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭Dusty87


    Also, there were rumours that Whitey Bulger was an FBI informant before he went on the run.

    AFAIK, from what i read a few year ago, he helped them bring down the 'new england mob'. He was informed from inside then that that the FBI were goin to bring down him, so he went on the run. I think the man who told him went to trial for it or was going to trial...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Abraham wrote: »
    ...At 81 years, he deserves a break. It's no fun living on the edge for the past 20 years. That torture went on for long enough, didn't it ?.....and the US Government will not want to be associated with torture now will they.......oh dear.......not do sure about that last bit.
    So at the age of 81 - you get a free pass for all the crimes that you have done?
    Think about that and its implications!

    Murder and kill, rob and swindle, evade the law long enough, get to 81 and all is forgiven or at least let away with...

    Gee, maybe I should go all the above, have fun, duck and cover and get to 81 too!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭theboss80


    Wonder will he be shown to the public? Seemingly he was right behind Bin Laden on the list and we know how that turned out....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭Saint_Mel


    aidan24326 wrote: »
    If you look at his FBI wanted poster it says he used multiple aliases and was known to alter his appearance through the use of disguises.


    Nothing to declare ...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,093 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    ToniTuddle wrote: »
    Cool must check that one out.

    Read one of this dudes books he grew up in Boston and he mentions Whitey in it. It's fascinating what went on over there during that time!

    http://www.michaelpatrickmacdonald.com/

    Highly recommend a book called Black Mass as well if you are interested in the story of the winter hill gang.


    Or just wait for Jim's film adaptation :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,265 ✭✭✭amacca


    mikemac wrote: »

    If I were an editor I'd hire a forensic accountant and an journalist and I'd have a cracking story for my paper.

    And if it proved there was no connection it'd still be a good story

    Thats the spirit!

    would you like to work for the telegraph or the guardian sir?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,673 ✭✭✭policarp


    I'm surprised he made it to the ripe old age of 81.
    You usually don't mess with the Mafia and get away with it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    policarp wrote: »
    I'm surprised he made it to the ripe old age of 81.
    You usually don't mess with the Mafia and get away with it.

    He IS the mafia.

    Interesting, links ot Dissident Republicans in Dublin.

    The Guardian:The caption under his FBI mugshot now reads: "Captured". After a 16-year manhunt which stretched from Boston to London through Ireland, France, Italy, Thailand, Brazil and Spain, James "Whitey" Bulger, America's most wanted homegrown fugitive has finally been apprehended.

    Nicknamed "Whitey" for his receding silver white hair, Bulger has evaded the authorities in the US and Europe – as well as a string of private investigators – since his disappearance in 1995.

    His flight from justice 16 years ago was all the more embarrassing for the FBI because Whitey, a former federal informant, had been tipped off by a corrupt agent that he was about to be arrested, charged with 19 murders, extortion, drug dealing and money laundering.

    After years in which a string of purported sightings failed to produce any leads, the man whose life inspired Jack Nicholson's character in Martin Scorsese's film The Departed will at last appear in a US court.

    On Monday the FBI launched a fresh appeal for information on the whereabouts of the former boss of Boston's Irish mafia. In a change of tactic the agency targeted television adverts shown during programmes watched by mainly female viewers. The FBI – which doubled the reward for the arrest of Bulger to $2m (£1.3m) last year, the largest ever for a domestic target – focused on women in their sixties.

    Bulger's long-time girlfriend, Catherine Greig, was in that demographic, and the authorities appealed to women who may have seen her in beauty salons and dentist surgeries. A dental hygienist by trade, Greig had purportedly undergone multiple plastic surgeries, frequented beauty salons and – like Bulger – loved dogs.

    The FBI bought 350 TV advertising time slots and ran a 30-second appeal, fronted by Boston-based agent Richard DesLauriers. "There is someone in the United States or elsewhere in the world who knows Catherine Greig as a neighbour, friend or co-worker," the ad began.

    Within 48 hours, the agent was proved right. How long the modern day Bonnie and Clyde have lived in Santa Monica is not known. But the details of Bulger's life on the run could provide more embarrassment for the agency if it emerges he had been there for some time.

    The Pakistani ambassador to the US recently quipped: "If Whitey Bulger can live undetected by American police for so long, why can't Osama bin Laden live undetected by Pakistani authorities?"

    The last sighting of Bulger was in London in 2002, during his travels through Europe, leaving money in deposit boxes to support his time as a fugitive. The sighting in London led to Scotland Yard's involvement in the hunt and Met detectives discovered one of his many deposit boxes in the security vaults of a bank near Piccaddilly Circus.

    Inside officers found $50,000 and the key to another deposit box in Dublin, where Bulger had connections with the dissident republican movement. It was these deposit boxes, private investigators told the Guardian, which allowed him to evade justice for so long.

    Sightings four years ago in Spain and the Canary Islands led the US attorney in Boston to issue an international arrest warrant and a US justice department investigators visited Alicante only to find the trail had gone cold.

    Last year the FBI was alerted by a member of the public who claimed to have seen Bulger leaving a San Diego cinema showing The Departed.

    The sightings in California continued. This week the FBI said there had been "multiple leads" including one at a beauty salon in Fountain Valley.

    As well as being accused of a string of gangland murders, Bulger is also believed to have been involved in another notorious unsolved crime, one of the biggest art heist's in history.

    Thirteen paintings including Rembrandt's only seascape The Storm on the Sea of Galilee, a Vermeer, five Degas drawings and a Manet portrait were stolen from the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum in Boston by thieves dressed as policemen on St Patrick's Day in 1990.

    Art crime investigators joined the hunt for Bulger amid the discovery of evidence that he was involved. With the crime boss now behind bars, sources said the paintings – which are believed to be hidden in Ireland – may finally resurface.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,340 ✭✭✭deco nate


    danny was the real hard man,no hidin behide (usin)the fbi..










    its been made into a movie called kill the irish man,out soon
    over here,pretty good movie i thought.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭7sr2z3fely84g5


    New pic of bulger-
    http://www.smh.com.au/world/boston-mob-boss-was-hiding-in-plain-sight-20110624-1gizg.html

    If has any secrets could do a plea bargain,faces death penalty in some states at age of 81 :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭theboss80




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 896 ✭✭✭JohnFalstaff


    deco nate wrote: »
    danny was the real hard man,no hidin behide (usin)the fbi..

    Danny Greene used the FBI in exactly the same way as Whitey did. Greene was recruited as a confidential informant in the 1960's and he used the FBI to put his mafia enemies behind bars, much in the same way Whitey used the FBI in Boston.

    There was a great series on TG4 recently about the history of the Irish American mob. It featured episodes about Whitey Bulger and Danny Greene amongst others. Tough boyos!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    i think te'll be tried in Boston though as most of his crimes were committed there. Death penalty abolished since 1984.

    Edit: They're federal charges so he could be open to it though not sure how federal system works. Anyone know?


    Edit 2: All answers here: http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2011/06/24/us_likely_first_in_long_line_for_trials/

    More than likely won't face the death penalty.

    New pic of bulger-
    http://www.smh.com.au/world/boston-mob-boss-was-hiding-in-plain-sight-20110624-1gizg.html

    If has any secrets could do a plea bargain,faces death penalty in some states at age of 81 :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭ToniTuddle


    marco_polo wrote: »
    Highly recommend a book called Black Mass as well if you are interested in the story of the winter hill gang.


    Or just wait for Jim's film adaptation :)

    Awesome avatar ye have :pac:

    Cheers for that tip! Think I'll get the book first and read it. Got a long list to go through now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭7sr2z3fely84g5


    Books on bulger with isbns-
    Brutal:- 9780061148064
    Rat bstards- 0061232890
    Criminal and an irishman- 1903582709


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    I imagine if Bulger has Alzeimhers then no trial. But if he's compos mentis, he'd better get a food taster. So it may benefit all round if he is declared unfit for trial.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭jonsnow


    It was asking for trouble coming back into the us jurisdiction.He should have just moved to somewhere in cambodia or thailand and blended in with all the other us retirees.

    Anyway they caught him but the man is 81 whats the worst they can do to him - chop him up and feed him to the poor, huh, is that what you want?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    It's going to be interesting to hear what he has to say about the FBI when he takes the stand. I can't imagine they're gonna come out of this looking very good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Bulger used the system to benefit himself back in the day and abused it, so its only fit now that the system repays him the favour. I never thought they'd catch him though, he was the last great gangster from his era..


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's a strange thought that he spent time in Connemara. I could have walked passed him in Galway and not even realized who he was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    It's a strange thought that he spent time in Connemara. I could have walked passed him in Galway and not even realized who he was.

    There was a $2,000,000 reward going if you had noticed him ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭Abraham


    The way to get most benefit from the detention of Bolger now is to create some kind of relationship with him in his incarceration and to seek to extract from him the innermost workings of the organised crime underworld. He is a master of his trade yet is probably vulnerable right now because he can see that the end is in sight for him.

    It might even be possible to cut some kind of a deal for his worthwhile co-operation. What he knows were he to divulge it is priceless for those who would seek to put in place barrier controls in regard to organised crime and drugs. The two things are out of control to a far greater extent than is realised or made known publicly. There is an innate tendency to underplay the seriousness of crime levels and crime infiltration for political reasons.

    Unless that Whitey is some kind of an automaton, he must be interested in cutting himself some slack and he could do that as he has a great hand to play on his side. He has little to gain by adhering to 'Omerta' now. Mother Teresa and her clones aside, everyone has their price. Name me one government on the planet who have not lied, connived and engaged in wholesale deceit when that approach suited their interests.

    Equally, the other side have inestimable gains to make in getting his co-operation. There lies the most intelligent thing and will help to create a workable blueprint for curtailing OC in the years ahead. The shambolic, blundering, unfocused approach to organised crime has allowed that cancer to grow practically unhindered. Some fresh thinking is warranted.


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Delighted they caught the aul bastard. hes a rat as well as a scumbag,talked to the FBI when his ass was against the wall years ago. Hope they let him rot away in a cell for whatever time he has left.


    Dirtbird of the highest order. Sickens me that some people think of him as a hero of some sorts.


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Bulger used the system to benefit himself back in the day and abused it, so its only fit now that the system repays him the favour. I never thought they'd catch him though, he was the last great gangster from his era..

    What the F*** is a 'great gangster'


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There was a $2,000,000 reward going if you had noticed him ;)

    And you're only telling me this now?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,267 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    It'll be ironic if he goes to court and is found not guilty, and he then sues the American government for pumping him full of LSD in the 1950s.


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