(N/D)igger the dog.

melb · 15-06-2011 11:21AM #1

So, one of the great films of all time is being remade... "The Dambusters"

At the start Peter Jackson wanted to keep as close as possible to the original script which included keeping the dog named ******. However, studio execs succeeded in changing the dogs name to Digger.

Whats the AHers thoughts on this?

grizzly · 15-06-2011 11:22AM

Can't stop progress.

Dyr · 15-06-2011 11:25AM

My uncle had a dog called ******.

jester77 · 15-06-2011 11:25AM

Reminds me of this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNMzZMwbPFA

bonerm · 15-06-2011 11:26AM

They should change the dogs name to Nagger if they're gonna change it at all.

orourkeda · 15-06-2011 11:26AM

Me Bollix

TheVoodoo · 15-06-2011 11:26AM

My dog is called Asterix.

amacca · 15-06-2011 11:27AM

melb wrote: »

So, one of the great films of all time is being remade... "The Dambusters"

At the start Peter Jackson wanted to keep as close as possible to the original script which included keeping the dog named ******. However, studio execs succeeded in changing the dogs name to Digger.

Whats the AHers thoughts on this?

this debate has been had before...they should rename the dog "african american"

bonerm · 15-06-2011 11:27AM

FYI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgePEO7GUtE

sbsquarepants · 15-06-2011 11:28AM

When i was a kid there where a couple of dogs in the neighbourhood called nígger, seems fúcking mental now!:D
I don't think it even occured to people it might be insulting or racist.

Craptacular · 15-06-2011 11:29AM

I'm fine with it as long as they rename the dams hams, the operation from Chastise to Scold, the commander from Guy Gibson to Person Gibson and change the enemy from Germans to Orcs. Actually, instead of dropping bombs they should drop food parcels.

There's nothing wrong with rewriting history to avoid offending people.

Dymo · 15-06-2011 11:30AM

Well it would be great to keep the historical references, BUT this would cause too much offense and not PC to do so

Sanjuro · 15-06-2011 11:31AM

melb wrote: »

Whats the AHers thoughts on this?

It's so far down the list of things to get your knickers in a twist about that I think I almost passed out from apathy.

amacca · 15-06-2011 11:33AM

Sanjuro wrote: »

It's so far down the list of things to get your knickers in a twist about that I think I almost passed out from apathy.

but you just couldn't care enough to even bother to do that?

Sinfonia · 15-06-2011 11:34AM

I think it is racist. I think it is history.

melb · 15-06-2011 11:48AM

Following on from that-do/did people think this video is/was funny?

stmol32 · 15-06-2011 11:49AM

Sinfonia wrote: »

I think it is racist. I think it is history.

Rubbish... it's history.
Yeah but then again it is racist

Min · 15-06-2011 11:53AM

All they needed was a black rapper in the army owning the dog.

JohnMarston · 15-06-2011 11:55AM

TheVoodoo wrote: »

My dog is called Asterix.

Mine is Dogmatix

Sinfonia · 15-06-2011 11:59AM

Min wrote: »

All they needed was a black rapper in the army owning the dog.

God, I read that as "pwning" the dog.. I need to get out more

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 15-06-2011 12:02PM

Seeing as it was a true story, and the dog was really called that, I can't see why they should change it. Surely people have enough sense to realize that its set in a different time, and attitudes towards race have thankfully changed.

Biggins · 15-06-2011 12:04PM

Aaa... it could have been worse.
If an extreme enough republican existed and funded the film, they might have demanded the dog be called Obama!

In serious though, its a sign of the ever moving times.
I've seen that film a few times and in all honestly, I never kopped it or gave it a second thought.
Just goes to show how some things can slip under the radar of consciousness.
Again, in honesty, I agree that it should be changed.

CardBordWindow · 15-06-2011 12:06PM

I know a guy who used to have a gundog called N*gger. Anytime the dog went missing, he'd be seen walking through fields with a shotgun shouting 'Here N*gger!!'

Not the most PC thing to be doing.

KungPao · 15-06-2011 12:08PM

As it's a remake I don't see the point in putting in such an offensive word. It's just not required.

However I hate when older films and programmes are dubbed/censored, e.g. Only Fools and Horses having unPC words and dubbed over and smoking removed from cartoons from decades ago etc.

They were products of their time and I want to enjoy it as originally made.

dpe · 15-06-2011 12:19PM

I'm only surprised that the remake doesn't have the Americans carrying out the mission. Changing the name of the dog is no big deal by comparison.

Sin_J · 15-06-2011 12:20PM

KungPao wrote: »

As it's a remake I don't see the point in putting in such an offensive word. It's just not required.

But it is required. It's not just a remake of a film, like Ocean's 11 or the Italian Job.

It is a remake of a film based on historical fact. The dog existed and that was it's name.

It's altering history to make it more palatable, which is crap imo.

Biggins · 15-06-2011 12:22PM

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

...Surely people have enough sense to realize that its set in a different time, and attitudes towards race have thankfully changed.

Lets be honest. Sadly some won't have that sense and/or just wish to make an issue out of it for the sake of creating a drama to push their own possible agenda.

Sin_J wrote: »

...It's altering history to make it more palatable, which is crap imo.

True to some great extent.
Its a tough call to make in some cases.

Guill · 15-06-2011 12:26PM

The film should reflect the racism that was prevelant at the time, The dogs name should be Ni*ger as it originaly was and everyone should take offence to it and still watch the movie.

Badgermonkey · 15-06-2011 12:28PM

Hank meets the Wu-Tang clan.

http://splicd.com/mYrL4AgJPDM/189/303

The King of Moo · 15-06-2011 12:39PM

If the dog were fictional then I'd have no problem changing it, but the fact that's it a real, historical dog complicates things.
I'm usually dead set against changing historical things in films, but in this case I don't mind. It's not like the dog being called "N*gger" is crucial to the plot. Now if they changed it to the Americans blowing up the dams, or removed all references to the Nazis, then I'd be annoyed.

Logical Fallacy · 15-06-2011 12:39PM

Kind of weird as lots of war films will use the derogatory term of the day for the enemy...so racism is only bad if you can't kill the subject I guess.

(N/D)igger the dog.

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