GAME OF THRONES [Book and TV Discussion (US Pace)]

SuperInfinity · 31-05-2011 12:56AM

pljudge321 wrote: »

You might want to not read the sci-fi thread in that case, its for the books as well and I had that post written out with spoilers included but changed it at the last minute because it looked like Zapp hadn't read the books.

I know, I have nearly all the series read.

I interpreted what you said...: "reading to the reaction of others", as meaning reading about their reactions actually better than watching/reading the series yourself. Which I saw someone say before, and I find rather nonsensical.

Zapp Brannigan · 31-05-2011 02:44AM

pljudge321 wrote: »

You might want to not read the sci-fi thread in that case, its for the books as well and I had that post written out with spoilers included but changed it at the last minute because it looked like Zapp hadn't read the books.

I've read all the books.

Dades · 31-05-2011 11:58AM

Okay so I'm enjoying the quick pace of the show at the moment - but what was the story with Littlefinger's soft porn show?

At least one person I spoke to missed most of what he had to say (which was important) during it as they were to focussed on the "action" in the background.

(A good excuse to watch it again, I suppose :pac:)

fitz · 31-05-2011 01:23PM

Dades wrote: »

Okay so I'm enjoying the quick pace of the show at the moment - but what was the story with Littlefinger's soft porn show?

At least one person I spoke to missed most of what he had to say (which was important) during it as they were to focussed on the "action" in the background.

(A good excuse to watch it again, I suppose :pac:)

It was just a scene constructed to flesh out the story of his affection for Catelyn and his duel with Brandon Stark, which was relayed via Catelyn's memories in the books. Knowing more of that backstory helps contextualise Littlefinger's motivations for what happened at the end of the episode. The use of the girls in the brothel is clever enough. He wouldn't have that kind of discussion with any of the "named" characters. The situation just provided opportunity for exposition.

Dades · 31-05-2011 02:45PM

fitz wrote: »

It was just a scene constructed to flesh out the story of his affection for Catelyn and his duel with Brandon Stark, which was relayed via Catelyn's memories in the books. Knowing more of that backstory helps contextualise Littlefinger's motivations for what happened at the end of the episode. The use of the girls in the brothel is clever enough. He wouldn't have that kind of discussion with any of the "named" characters. The situation just provided opportunity for exposition.

I'm aware of the importance of the exposition which is why I thought perhaps it would have been wiser to tone down the lesbian romping!

While use of barenaked hoors is always a winner for male HBO watchers (apart from Renly fans!) perhaps they could just have been doing something a little less distracting while remaining just as naked.

Morag · 31-05-2011 02:59PM

Or it could have been shot or edited together in a manner to take the emphasis off the 'show'.

SuperInfinity · 31-05-2011 03:20PM

I found it distracting as well.

The lesbian scene was fine, it was Littlefinger's blathering on that I found disturbing/unnecessary.

The last thing you want to hear when you're watching hot sex is a manly voice like Littlefinger's.

GenghisCon · 31-05-2011 08:55PM

GOT meme

Stupid Ned Stark

I was wondering if there is the possibility for a few alternatives from clever boardies? Here one I (badly) made earlier

Somnus · 31-05-2011 10:42PM

GenghisCon wrote: »

GOT meme

Stupid Ned Stark

I was wondering if there is the possibility for a few alternatives from clever boardies? Here one I (badly) made earlier

Haha, I love 2, 4 and 7

SuperInfinity · 31-05-2011 11:03PM

lol, some of those are very funny. I'd be more 1, 6, 7.

I'm a little uncertain of what 3 is referring to.

8 I would put a slight question mark over. Ned could have argued with Robert more about Lady during the "hearing", since Robert didn't seem too bothered either way. However to disobey a King's direct order when you claim you will....

10 I just plain disagree with. Ned had to tell her what was going on, it was only fair.

Here is another one I would make:

"Feel bound by honour, duty and truth?

Neglect to tell the dying King the truth. which he could put in his letter and probably save thousands of lives and years of war and bloodshed, so as not to hurt his feelings of being cheated on by his estranged wife."

mewso · 01-06-2011 06:14PM

Interestingly that Ned Memes thing was posted on the TV thread and I was pretty sure the last one references something that hasn't been revealed on the show yet. Maybe it has but either way I 'aint gonna bring any attention to it.

5starpool · 01-06-2011 06:40PM

mewso wrote: »

Interestingly that Ned Memes thing was posted on the TV thread and I was pretty sure the last one references something that hasn't been revealed on the show yet. Maybe it has but either way I 'aint gonna bring any attention to it.

Nah, that was in the show a couple of episodes ago mewso.

mewso · 01-06-2011 07:11PM

5starpool wrote: »

Nah, that was in the show a couple of episodes ago mewso.

Yes but it is presented as a foolish thing to do. The reason it is foolish has yet to be shown surely.

5starpool · 01-06-2011 07:34PM

mewso wrote: »

Yes but it is presented as a foolish thing to do. The reason it is foolish has yet to be shown surely.

I think it's more that she will kick up a fuss and be spoilt as she tends to be, and him telling her that he was planning to take her back to winterfell is not the cause of what happens after this point.

pljudge321 · 01-06-2011 09:42PM

In the books didn't Sansa go to Cersei before Ned's arrest. I wonder how they are going to work this is now or i it is being left out.

The Sansa in the show comes across much differently from the books, instead of the perfectly mannered girl filled with delusions about love, nobility and the splendor of court she's just a petulant teenager.

SuperInfinity · 01-06-2011 09:52PM

pljudge321 wrote: »

The Sansa in the show comes across much differently from the books, instead of the perfectly mannered girl filled with delusions about love, nobility and the splendor of court she's just a petulant teenager.

Disagree.

pljudge321 · 01-06-2011 09:54PM

SuperInfinity wrote: »

Disagree.

Care to expand on that point?

fitz · 01-06-2011 11:00PM

In fairness, she was just as much of a pain in the ass in the book. I'd say they left out her going to Cersei because to a large extent, the scene wasn't needed. Things were coming to a head one way or another, so why waste screen time on it? Would have been nice to have it included, but not everything can be given the constraints of the medium...

SuperInfinity · 01-06-2011 11:38PM

pljudge321 wrote: »

Care to expand on that point?

Sansa could be pretty rash in the books also, especially to her sister... for example saying she wish they had killed her instead of Lady, calling things stupid, partly being a liar about something important, being mean and acting like he was superior in general.

I agree that the scene in episode 6 with Septa Mordane showed her as very different, I have no idea why they put that in. However overall I think she's pretty much like she is in the books.

Zapp Brannigan · 06-06-2011 06:54AM

Newest episode is great. Am I right in thinking the next one is the last in the series?

Bronn is a legend.

"...you probably wouldn't know him"

although I had my misgivings about the casting (I thought the actor should've been younger) I have to say that Jerome Flynn is doing an excellent job. As is Dinklage.

pljudge321 · 06-06-2011 09:51AM

^ Two more to go, should both be pretty action packed.

Glad to see the Lannister and Northern armies are both a good bit more fleshed out than the Khal, it'll be interesting to see if they can capture the scale of the battles though.

titan18 · 06-06-2011 04:08PM

Excellent episode. The fight scene with the Khal was great, and Hodor running in completely naked was hilarious.

Also,Syrio Forel at the start was class, and was really hoping they'd forget about the books and allow us to see Barristan cutting down the Kingsguard.

abelard · 06-06-2011 04:14PM

pljudge321 wrote: »

^ Two more to go, should both be pretty action packed.

Glad to see the Lannister and Northern armies are both a good bit more fleshed out than the Khal, it'll be interesting to see if they can capture the scale of the battles though.

Only 2 more? How disappointing, I thought the seasons were going to be longer than that. Although I guess I shouldn't complain, almost every episode has been excellent, so a slower pacing might ruin that.

titan18 · 06-06-2011 04:15PM

abelard wrote: »

Only 2 more? How disappointing, I thought the seasons were going to be longer than that. Although I guess I shouldn't complain, almost every episode has been excellent, so a slower pacing might ruin that.

Could do with about a 13/14 episode season alright. Some of the earlier episodes felt rushed

ixoy · 06-06-2011 09:36PM

All hail King Joffrey!

Looking forward to the next two and how particular scenes are going to be handled. Be interesting to see how the shock of the book translates to TV.

Good episode this week - GRRM did a nice job of adapting his own work. Particularly as good as job as could be expected of letting us know about the various factions and alliances without resorting to animated drawings. He also seemed keen to get a bit more action with hounds (dog and human).
For the first time I felt a little sorry for Sansa as they manipulated and pressured her - she was so far out of her depth trying to plead with the combined forces of the Spider, Littlefinger and Cersei. The scene was played well. Lena Headley isn't great but her flat delivery is fine when she's playing Cersei as an ice-cold bitch.

An aside: Why is Jason Mamoa in the credits after the show and not the main title sequence? He's an "Also Starring" at the end of the show and he's the only actor listed there (the rest is for Guest Starring). Did his agent not make the effort?

GenghisCon · 07-06-2011 12:08AM

please find attached what I felt compulsed to do at 00:05 on a Tuesday morning. The others take my internet connection. Tis naught but a mummers jape....

Beruthiel · 08-06-2011 01:36PM

Have to say I'm loving this series and it's close enough to the book so as not to piss me off.
Am actually rereading the books just to make sure.

All I can say is, they had better continue making the episodes. Am fed up of the way American TV stations cancel shows half way through.

PS
Jason Mamoa is HOT!

Sleepy · 08-06-2011 02:04PM

Beruthiel: Season 2 is already confirmed and new characters are being cast at the moment, ratings are holding strong (actually grew from the premiere!) and the critical reception (something which HBO tend to pay heed to) has been close to universally fawning so, for now at least, it should be pretty safe.

I *really* hope this gets at least a Season 3 to see the reaction to

the red wedding

5starpool · 08-06-2011 02:12PM

And at least unlike some other shows that get cancelled (SGU I'm looking at you), we'd get to see the end of the story, even if the tv show gets cancelled. In theory at least, GRRM's writing pace notwithstanding.

mewso · 08-06-2011 02:22PM

Not to mention it might catch up with Martin and he'll be under more serious pressure than a few troublesome fans to finish the thing

GAME OF THRONES [Book and TV Discussion (US Pace)]

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