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David Fincher's Version - The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,942 ✭✭✭missingtime


    Dont know much about any of the books, and may wreck heads in saying this, but I am so glad its not ellen page. she drives me mad she does.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,126 ✭✭✭✭calex71


    Absolutely. The second book reads like a TV miniseries, certainly not worth the high stakes of a blockbuster sequel, while I don't see how anyone could turn the third book into an entertaining film?

    There in lies the problem the 3rd book isn't really a 3rd book it's book 2 vol.2

    And combined they are really drawn out , Ok the 1st book was too but we get so much useless back story in the books even after we have guessed whats coming.

    For me there were no likable characters in the books they all had their flaws as people. Which is a good thing but didn't come across in the Swedish movies I felt.

    Daniel Craig is perfect for Bloomchrist :D For Lisbeth ? They could have done worse than his bond girl Olga Kurylenko


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    I think the perfect person to play Lisbeth is Natalia Tena(She played Tonks in the later Harry Potter movies)

    I think she has the look, and could pull off the character.

    Natalia-Tena.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,557 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    hmmm will be interesting to see what Fincher makes out of this.

    I know (an idiot) girl here who funnily enough said of the Swedish films - "I will ignore them, I wont look at these films untill the Americans (Hollywood) do them" -

    When asked why ?

    She said (and this is classic) "I don't feel it's realistic watching this in Spanish while this is set in Sweden " !!! :O :O :O :O !!!!

    (-yeah dubbed , a 1st sign of her idiocy... )

    YEah good one, while it's realistic watching it in Spanish while they are in north Alaska !!!!!


    F*cking Idiot!!!



    Sorry of topic , but pissed me off!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭paulosham


    Rooney Mara is playing Lisbeth Salander.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/09/30/girl-with-a-dragon-tattoo-christopher-plummer-to-play-henrik-vanger/
    Christopher Plummer has joined the cast of David Fincher’s The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. The mighty acting veteran will play Henrik Vanger, the ailing tycoon who hires Daniel Craig’s Mikael Blomkvist to solve the mystery of his niece’s disappearance........................................


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/10/11/early-photos-of-rooney-mara-as-lisbeth-salander-on-the-set-of-the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo/

    Rooney-Mara_240.jpg

    After a few false starts, some real photos of Rooney Mara as Lisbeth Salander are circulating the Interwebs. The actress stepped out of her trailer on the set of David Fincher’s adaptation of The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo, sporting some rings in her face along with what appears to be a chain around her neck and looking like she’s ready to kick some butt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Hmmm obvious question, possibly already answered but: is this remake going to be set in Sweden (with brits accents ala the Wallander series on BBC) or in the US?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,228 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Hmmm obvious question, possibly already answered but: is this remake going to be set in Sweden (with brits accents ala the Wallander series on BBC) or in the US?
    From what I heard (BBC Radio 5, I think), Fincher's filming in Sweden right now, so I guess that's a yes.

    In its pure form, fascism is the sum total of all irrational reactions of the average human character.

    ― Wilhelm Reich



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭Dave147


    Beruthiel wrote: »
    No. There isn't.
    It's an awful shame that so many people allow subtitles put them off watching the original film.
    It's a rare thing that an english remake out does the original.

    I'm glad so many people out there don't like subtitles, more masterpiece for the rest of us who truly appreciate it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Apparently Trent Reznor will be scoring this film


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    110112rooney-mara1.jpg Rooney Mara


    Rooney Mara steps out with a brand new look for her upcoming role in The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo­.

    http://www.tvguide.com/News/Rooney-Mara-Look-1027611.aspx


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Hmmm obvious question, possibly already answered but: is this remake going to be set in Sweden (with brits accents ala the Wallander series on BBC) or in the US?

    Well if it isnt set in Sweden, they would(should) have to change the names of the characters, as it wouldnt make sense to set it in the US but have swedish place and person names.

    And if they changed the place names and names of people, and where it was set, along with the normal artists license, then you could just make a completely new movie.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I'm getting fed up of this franchise - the massive flaws of the second and third books / films (although the third film at least worked as a film and adaptation, which was a major improvement from the second) have left a lightly sour taste in my mouth. They still aren't bad as such, but I can't say I'm as enthusiastic about the story as I was after finishing the first novel.

    Still, as much as I'm filled with a deep distrust of the Millennium series, my refound love of Fincher's movies (after the Social Network) and Rooney Mara's superb performance in an extremely limited role in TSN will likely get me into the cinema for this, unless the reviews are a pile of ****. Let us hope they manage to tap into the positive aspects of the franchise, and retain the focus of the first novel. Alas, there isn't much hope for the meandering, exposition heavy sequels - their few strengths on the page have already proven difficult to adapt on screen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,719 ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Several new pictures of Mara in character here.

    001.jpgrooney_mara_1158874.jpg

    Quite a transformation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    I'm getting fed up of this franchise - the massive flaws of the second and third books / films (although the third film at least worked as a film and adaptation, which was a major improvement from the second) have left a lightly sour taste in my mouth. They still aren't bad as such, but I can't say I'm as enthusiastic about the story as I was after finishing the first novel.

    Still, as much as I'm filled with a deep distrust of the Millennium series, my refound love of Fincher's movies (after the Social Network) and Rooney Mara's superb performance in an extremely limited role in TSN will likely get me into the cinema for this, unless the reviews are a pile of ****. Let us hope they manage to tap into the positive aspects of the franchise, and retain the focus of the first novel. Alas, there isn't much hope for the meandering, exposition heavy sequels - their few strengths on the page have already proven difficult to adapt on screen.

    In what way do you distrust the Millenium series?? Im really curious, it seems like a funny thing to say.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    It's strange, everytime I see Mara 'normally' I can't imagine her as Salander, but the pictures definitely suggest she could pull it off. And despite her almost timid girl next door looks, her performance in the Social Network had real bite, so perhaps she is indeed the perfect choice.

    Curious quote in Sad Professor's link above:
    Fincher’s film departs dramatically from the book: Mikael Blomkvist is more gentlemanly, Salander (shown here on the motorcycle from the movie) is more aggressive—and the ending has been completely altered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I thought the books were good, the original films were ok.

    The yanks taking films and remaking them is due to the NYC crowd may be cosmopolitan enough to see foreign films but the general US audience have been spoon fed US films for too long. They wouldn't accept subtitled films (I'm guessing here) or at least that's what Hollywood thinks.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    syklops wrote: »
    In what way do you distrust the Millenium series?? Im really curious, it seems like a funny thing to say.

    I just don't think the 'Millennium' series is as strong a franchise as its popularity suggests. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the books as page turners despite their flaws (the first book is great, however, just the second two that are too unwieldy at times). I do think that many of the strengths are hard to pull off in cinema. Aspects like the investigative journalist subplots or exposition heavy 'conspiracy theory' side of things are hard to pull off in movie format. The characters translate well - they have to! - but the meatier side of the books doesn't so much. The adaptations so far have ranged from solid (the first film, which is a fair representation of the book if ultimately nothing special) to poor. So I just don't know if it's a franchise that translates well, and it's why I'm not filled with a great sense of confidence or 'trust' (not the optimum word, I'll admit) that yet more adaptations are necessary. But in the capable hands of a talented director, I must admit I'm at least curious if not yet optimistic about this film.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,609 ✭✭✭irish_stevo815


    The adaptations so far have ranged from solid (the first film, which is a fair representation of the book if ultimately nothing special) to poor.

    I have to disagree with you there. The first movie was a poor adaptation of the book as it left out or changed a lot of the story from the book - i.e. How Lisbeth's laptop got smashed, how she found out about Palmgren's stroke and the whole Wennerstrom affair. Whereas the second film stuck with the book as close as possible as it could within the given time. I have yet to watch "........The Hornets Nest" so cant comment on that yet.
    But i do think that it way too soon for Hollywood to be remaking it as they are great movies as they are. But as someone said above, it's the Americans not grasping the whole subtitled/re-dubbed thing


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I have to disagree with you there. The first movie was a poor adaptation of the book as it left out or changed a lot of the story from the book - i.e. How Lisbeth's laptop got smashed, how she found out about Palmgren's stroke and the whole Wennerstrom affair. Whereas the second film stuck with the book as close as possible as it could within the given time. I have yet to watch "........The Hornets Nest" so cant comment on that yet.
    But i do think that it way too soon for Hollywood to be remaking it as they are great movies as they are. But as someone said above, it's the Americans not grasping the whole subtitled/re-dubbed thing

    You see I think they need to change these books in order to get them to work. The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo was a decently paced film - I welcomed a few of the changes such as Salander providing the hint that Mikael's daughter randomly showed up to provide in the book (a subplot that went nowhere in the novel thoughtfully excised in the film), or the introduction of flashes of Salander's backstory ('playing with fire' we'll say). The second film was just messy, sticking close to a messy book creating a disjointed film in the process. Hornet's Nest improves on this by excising actually a significant amount of material. Some of the more interesting parts of the book -
    Berger's newspaper editing move
    , for example, has been removed completely - have been cut or trimmed down to a bare minimum. However, this means that the film is far more focused and cinematic, the central Salander / Blomkvist narrative the main focus. While this loses a lot of the character the book had, it for me led to a more watchable film. Again, not a great film by any stretch, but not as bad as the second.

    Sometimes, the best adaptations are the ones that are willing to trim or edit the book and play to the strengths that will work on screen. I often find straight adaptations not all that inspiring - I saw the first of the Swedish films right after finishing the book, and thought it was uninspiring yet perfectly functional as a result. Because when you adapt a book almost straight from the page, the director isn't doing much work. A good adaptation isn't necessarily one that copies every word and scene, but simply adapts the bits that will work well overall, adding a bit of cinematic character in the progress. IMO anyway!

    I do, however, strongly agree about the Wennerstrom bit being cut in the first film. For me, that was a compelling epilogue to the main story in the book, perhaps even more compelling than the rather cliched resolution to the main case. But there's the problem with adapting this franchise - investigative journalism is a hard thing to show on screen. It has been done - All the Presidents Men, for example - but it's the one thing the films thus far have been unable to illustrate with the same addictive quality as the books. If Fincher can do it - and he made procedural drama interesting in Zodiac - than perhaps we may get a better film than the Swedish ones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,719 ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    I'm actually really looking forward to this. I re-watched the Swedish version the other night and there is nothing particularly definitive about it. I wouldn't consider this a remake in the typical sense anyway. The books were very successful in the US and this film would have been made with or without the Swedish version.

    I suspect the main reason Fincher is making this is because they are giving him a great deal of leeway, but that in itself is an exciting prospect. The fact that there's already another version of the film out there is just going to make Fincher that much more determined to make his stand out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,450 ✭✭✭Morag


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Characters in general were pretty thinly drawn & even some glaring plotholes presented themselves in the movie version (specifically:
    the pressed flowers posted to Vanger were never explained; indeed, the person behind it in the novel was written out of the film's script completely so we never get any explanation
    )

    They were explained.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    In the Swedish film? I don't recall it, but given how turgidly fatigue-inducing the screen adapation was, I don't rule out falling asleep during the explanation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,719 ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    A cam of the red band trailer has leaked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,424 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Fincher knows how to make effective teaser trailers.. and that was no exception.

    Really need to sit down and read / watch the originals first.

    Maybe this week..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Ha, that was actually a fairly stylish trailer. They may just be marketing vehicles, but it's always nice to see a trailer that has a little craft to it, rather than the cut-n'-paste types you get.

    The Feel Bad Movie of Christmas. Ha, love it. This movie has a chance anyway, because to me the Swedish movie was so stilted and dull, Fincher can't go wrong here.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Beat trailer Ive seen since... well, The Social Network I guess!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,719 ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    It has been rightly pointed out elsewhere that the sound in the trailer is far too good to be a genuine leak. So it seems like this is actually an official leak. Pretty cool if so, and exactly the kind of thing Fincher might come up with.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,609 ✭✭✭irish_stevo815


    That's an awesome looking trailer. It looks like it's shaping up to be waaaaay better than the Swedish version of the movies (well i guess a bigger budget helps ;)).
    It looks like it will be following the book fairly well, especially the parts looking
    back on the day Harriet went missing, showing the crash on the bridge etc.

    Also, is Martin Vagner being played by the same guy as in the swedish movie????


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