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Roads that could be closed/downgraded

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  • #32
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,730 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    you cant spread housing thinner and thinner unless you are actually knocking places down. Building houses in the countryside is increasing the density.:D


  • #33
    Solair
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,227 ✭✭✭Solair


    corktina wrote: »
    you cant spread housing thinner and thinner unless you are actually knocking places down. Building houses in the countryside is increasing the density.:D

    Not if you're building in the middle of no where instead of building in towns.

    We can all be smart and pedantic!

    The point is that Ireland's pattern of development from the 1970s onwards is largely economically unsustainable, even in the short to medium term due to lack of density.


  • #34
    Iwannahurl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Solair wrote: »
    Without the advent of the private motorcar, none of this ultra low density sprawl could have happened.

    The major problem with Irish infrastructure is that it's spread ridiculously thinly.

    I know a few people who live in what is basically rural Co. Kildare who continuously tell me that I live "down the country", a short walk from the centre of Cork City and that they live in Dublin and they wonder why they can't get broadband even though they're basically in a small housing estate that's about 20 miles from civilisation (a small town!). Meanwhile, "down the country" in Cork City I can get 100mbit/s broadband without any difficulty and can stroll into work without any need for a car.

    Clearly they're delusional, like the Irish planning system.

    [...]




    Hear hear.

    I've never understood why the (perhaps uniquely Irish?) process of make-it-up-as-you-go-along house construction is called "Planning".

    It really should be called Building Permission, since there is rarely any coherent plan involved.

    The National Spatial Strategy, which wasn't much of a plan to begin with, was usurped by its creators as soon as the ink was dry. If we can't even plan at national level, how on earth can the local government gombeens be expected to do better?


  • #35
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,730 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    Solair wrote: »
    Not if you're building in the middle of no where instead of building in towns.

    We can all be smart and pedantic!

    The point is that Ireland's pattern of development from the 1970s onwards is largely economically unsustainable, even in the short to medium term due to lack of density.

    just to be smart and pedantic...please note the :D

    :D


  • #36
    murphaph
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,075 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    corktina wrote: »
    chicken and egg though. If the road was there, whats wrong with someone building a house and living there? Surely noone builds a house in a field and expects the council to build them a road? By building and living on that road they are actually making it more cost effective to maintain. There may be only a handful of homes on that road but its primary purpose is probably for agricultural access,

    PS I live in a Town....
    Agricultural access doesn't require metalled roads that are maintained at taxpayers' expense.


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  • #37
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,730 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    murphaph wrote: »
    Agricultural access doesn't require metalled roads that are maintained at taxpayers' expense.

    no? Try driving a Milk Tanker up one! Or an Artic delivering bulk feed....


  • #38
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 31,828 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    corktina wrote: »
    no? Try driving a Milk Tanker up one! Or an Artic delivering bulk feed....

    Whipped cream! :D
    I would imagine that haulage companies would charge wxtra to drive on such roads.


  • #39
    murphaph
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,075 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    corktina wrote: »
    no? Try driving a Milk Tanker up one! Or an Artic delivering bulk feed....
    Sorry crossed wires...the farm yard itself may well need a metalled road. I was referring to access to fields by the farmer himself.


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