JUstice the American Way

Rawhead · 17-05-2011 09:27AM #1

I know the man has a presumption of innocence, but you have to hand it to the Americans the way they have dealt with Dominique Strauss-Kahn.
-Hauled off first class in JFK
-Perp walked in front of the worlds media
-Remanded in custody to Rikers Island (equivellent to the Joy)

Consider the same situation in this banana republic
-Plane given priority take off clearance
-Super injunction placed on victim
-Gardai sent in 3 months later to get evidence

I know the Americans get it wrong a lot of the time, but man do they give the public at least a sense that the big guys don't always get away with it i.e. Bernie Madoff

Rawhead · 17-05-2011 09:27AM

I know the man has a presumption of innocence, but you have to hand it to the Americans the way they have dealt with Dominique Strauss-Kahn.
-Hauled off first class in JFK
-Perp walked in front of the worlds media
-Remanded in custody to Rikers Island (equivellent to the Joy)

Consider the same situation in this banana republic
-Plane given priority take off clearance
-Super injunction placed on victim
-Gardai sent in 3 months later to get evidence

I know the Americans get it wrong a lot of the time, but man do they give the public at least a sense that the big guys don't always get away with it i.e. Bernie Madoff

reprazant · 17-05-2011 09:32AM

Please name one Irish person who has been given a super injunction by the Irish courts.

Guill · 17-05-2011 09:33AM

On the perp walk?

That a right said Fred song?

Rawhead · 17-05-2011 09:34AM

reprazant wrote: »

Please name one Irish person who has been given a super injunction by the Irish courts.

Wouldn't be much of an injunction if I knew their names...

Guill · 17-05-2011 09:34AM

^^^^^

Which case then?

bonzos · 17-05-2011 09:36AM

If he was in Ireland he would be playing golf with the Taoiseach today.

TheZohanS · 17-05-2011 09:38AM

reprazant wrote: »

Please name one Irish person who has been given a super injunction by the Irish courts.

Name one Irish person that's facing jailtime over Anglo?

thebigbiffo · 17-05-2011 09:38AM

i actually thought they were being too hard on him - ffs, it's one person word against another and he can't even get bail!

Guill · 17-05-2011 09:39AM

thebigbiffo wrote: »

i actually thought they were being too hard on him - ffs, it's one person word against another and he can't even get bail!

If he is innocent it is rough treatment, however, it does look like he tried to flee the country once already.

Rawhead · 17-05-2011 09:42AM

thebigbiffo wrote: »

i actually thought they were being too hard on him - ffs, it's one person word against another and he can't even get bail!

That's my point though, he got the same treatment as a scrote from the Bronx would.

Sunnyisland · 17-05-2011 09:44AM

the biffo wrote: »

i actually thought they were being too hard on him - ffs, it's one person word against another and he can't even get bail!

In the majority of countries if you are a foreign national charged with serious crime its very hard to get bail.

Cantona's Collars · 17-05-2011 09:45AM

thebigbiffo wrote: »

i actually thought they were being too hard on him - ffs, it's one person word against another and he can't even get bail!

He was deemed a serious flight risk,bail was initially going to be set at 2 million dollars but seeing as both he and his missus are so minted that would be like spare change to them plus France doesn't extradite to the States so he'd be on the first plane there never to be seen in the US again.

thebigbiffo · 17-05-2011 09:45AM

Guill wrote: »

If he is innocent it is rough treatment, however, it does look like he tried to flee the country once already.

Rawhead wrote: »

That's my point though, he got the same treatment as a scrote from the Bronx would.

i think he should have been entitled to bail - i'm no expert, but would it not be likely that in a similar case, all things being equal, the accused would get bail? don't forget there seems to be ZERO evidence against him...so he left his phone behind - hardly enough to hang the man.

Sunnyisland · 17-05-2011 09:45AM

Rawhead wrote: »

That's my point though, he got the same treatment as a scrote from the Bronx would.

And why shoudent he is his :attempted rape: any different.

bonzos · 17-05-2011 09:50AM

Maybe if the Gardai had to drag Drummer boy off the plane before he f**ked off to America and questioned about his role in anglo raping the country we might have some answers now!!a few nights in the joy might jog his memory......all we got was Charlie Bird landing on his doorstep of his mansion and being told "show some respect Charlie"

Coriolanus · 17-05-2011 09:51AM

thebigbiffo wrote: »

i think he should have been entitled to bail - i'm no expert, but would it not be likely that in a similar case, all things being equal, the accused would get bail? don't forget there seems to be ZERO evidence against him...so he left his phone behind - hardly enough to hang the man.

All other things aren't equal. He's already tried to leave the country once. Yes, he's entitled to a presumption of innocence but he's also obliged to remain until investigations are completed.

Rawhead · 17-05-2011 09:51AM

realies wrote: »

And why shoudent he is his :attempted rape: any different.

Your not with me on this, I AGREE that he deserves to be treated the same as everyone else, in fact that is what the whole post is about.

Sunnyisland · 17-05-2011 09:55AM

Rawhead wrote: »

Your not with me on this, I AGREE that he deserves to be treated the same as everyone else, in fact that is what the whole post is about.

Read it to fast,jumped to conclusions,my apologies

Guy:Incognito · 17-05-2011 09:57AM

TheZohan wrote: »

Name one Irish person that's facing jailtime over Anglo?

Did the high up lads in Anglo try to rape hotel staff too? (queue usual rabble about rapeing the country etc etc)

Elmer Blooker · 17-05-2011 09:57AM

mmmmmm IMF.... political aspirations..... politics and money - what a toxic combination. The changes will probably be dropped due to "lack of evidence" but his political career is over before it's even started.

gman2k · 17-05-2011 10:00AM

Rawhead wrote: »

Wouldn't be much of an injunction if I knew their names...

I always get the giggles when I hear that one...

Sunnyisland · 17-05-2011 10:04AM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Did the high up lads in Anglo try to rape hotel staff too? (queue usual rabble about rapeing the country etc etc)

No but they left us with some whole

sbsquarepants · 17-05-2011 10:21AM

Another woman has come forward and said he raped her too (or tried to maybe, i didn't quite catch the details). Some French writer i think.

gosuckonalemon · 17-05-2011 10:28AM

Yanks don't want a repeat of the Roman Polanski case. i.e. no extradition by France.

Looks like France will need another Socialist Presidential candidate and Europe a new IMF chief whether he gets off or not..

Son Of A Vidic · 17-05-2011 10:37AM

thebigbiffo wrote: »

i think he should have been entitled to bail - i'm no expert, but would it not be likely that in a similar case, all things being equal, the accused would get bail? don't forget there seems to be ZERO evidence against him...so he left his phone behind - hardly enough to hang the man.

Firstly, the location of his arrest on board a plane virtually guarantees him no bail. He also demonstrated a clear intent to leave the country, so the judge rightly regarded him as a flight risk.

Secondly, Roman Polański that famous pedo creep who fled to France in 1977 after pleading guilty to unlawful sex with a 13 year old girl. France granted him sanctuary and refused to extradite him back to the US.

France has well established 'form' of not cooperating with the American judicial system.

Son Of A Vidic · 17-05-2011 10:40AM

bonzos wrote: »

Maybe if the Gardai had to drag Drummer boy off the plane before he f**ked off to America and questioned about his role in anglo raping the country we might have some answers now!!a few nights in the joy might jog his memory......all we got was Charlie Bird landing on his doorstep of his mansion and being told "show some respect Charlie"

Some 'extraordinary rendition' would be nice for that kunt.

humanji · 17-05-2011 10:45AM

Was he actually fleeing from the states, or was he on board a flight that he was already booked on?

And can he not be tagged with an ankle bracelet or something, and his passport taken off him?

metrovelvet · 17-05-2011 10:46AM

If this happenned in France, and probably the rest of Europe, it would have been all hushed away.

Americans arent sycophantic.

humanji · 17-05-2011 10:48AM

metrovelvet wrote: »

If this happenned in France, and probably the rest of Europe, it would have been all hushed away.

Americans arent sycophantic.

Like with Julian Assange?

irelandrover · 17-05-2011 10:58AM

Does anyone else see nothing wrong with this. As it stands now the man has done nothing wrong as he hasn't been found guilty. However his face is everywhere and he will forever be labelled a rapist.
This is ok if it turns out that he did do it, but if it turns out that he is innocent then his life has been completely ruined by the lies. In my opinion he should remain anonymous until he has been found guilty. Which is part of the purpose of injunctions referred to earlier.

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