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International Military Krav Maga

  • 11-05-2011 06:07PM
    #1
    valdub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭


    IMKM's First Irish seminar will take place the 18th of June at;
    The Ballybough Community, Youth & Sports Centre,
    49 Ballybough Road,
    Dublin 3
    Great opportunity to train with two of Israels top Krav Maga instructors, with first hand combat knowledge and combined, have over 40yrs of martial arts experience. The seminar will be taught by IMKM's chief instructors and founders Amit Porat and Ravid Shimko and IMKM Instructor Lee O'Dwyer. This seminar will cover threats and attacks from multiple attackers both armed and unarmed. Places are limited, so book yours now!!!
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  • #2
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Whats the cost of this seminar please?.

    Btw, wrong forum.


  • #3
    valdub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭valdub


    Sorry Makikomi, new to boards.ie, I couldn't find a Krav Maga section. Where should I post the info?
    The seminar is 30euros for 3hrs, I've just noticed the error, it should be from 1:00pm to 4:00pm.


  • #4
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    valdub wrote: »
    Sorry Makikomi, new to boards.ie, I couldn't find a Krav Maga section. Where should I post the info?
    The seminar is 30euros for 3hrs, I've just noticed the error, it should be from 1:00pm to 4:00pm.


    No bother, and welcome to boards.ie - Hope you stick around.

    30 Euro sounds like good value, best of luck with.


  • #5
    Sid_Justice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭Sid_Justice


    awesome seminar, able to disarm a guy with a gun from 10 feet and also get a guy with a knife in a shoulder lock. well worth 30 euro.


  • #6
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Sid_Justice wrote: »
    awesome seminar, able to disarm a guy with a gun from 10 feet and also get a guy with a knife in a shoulder lock. well worth 30 euro.

    Ah give it over, for people who are into that sort'a thing €30 isn't going to break the bank - I'm sure Fat Freddie & his crew can well afford it :p


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  • #7
    valdub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭valdub


    Sid_Justice wrote: »
    awesome seminar, able to disarm a guy with a gun from 10 feet and also get a guy with a knife in a shoulder lock. well worth 30 euro.


    You couldn't be further off the mark Sid. Come to the seminar and if you still have the same opinion after it, I'll give you your 30euro back out of my own pocket.


  • #8
    valdub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭valdub


    Caylee Full Uterus wrote: »
    Ah give it over, for people who are into that sort'a thing €30 isn't going to break the bank - I'm sure Fat Freddie & his crew can well afford it :p

    Who's Fat Freddie??!?! Tell him it's also a good work out if he's interested :p


  • #9
    Doug Cartel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭Doug Cartel


    valdub wrote: »
    Who's Fat Freddie??!?! Tell him it's also a good work out if he's interested :p
    You do not want Freddie Thompson and his buddies down to try you out.


  • #10
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    I'm dying to do a self defence seminar (for free) and report back on one here.

    In fairness, Yomchi has offered but last time I clean forgot when the date arrived.

    OP, whats involved in a K.M. seminar?.


  • #11
    valdub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭valdub


    Caylee Full Uterus wrote: »
    I'm dying to do a self defence seminar (for free) and report back on one here.

    In fairness, Yomchi has offered but last time I clean forgot when the date arrived.

    OP, whats involved in a K.M. seminar?.


    Haha, nothings free in this life man.

    This seminar will cover threats from multiple attackers. We'll help make you aware of/and better understand situations that you could find yourself in at any given moment, give you the knowledge needed to avoid/deal with what could unfold and show you how best to deal with armed attackers.

    Check out this link:


    It should give you a better idea of what we are about and show you a little of what Amit Porat, Ravid Shimko and myself will hopefully pass on to anyone who takes part in the seminar.

    You said yourself, 30euros wont break the bank and it will be money well spent!!!


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  • #12
    Doug Cartel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭Doug Cartel


    valdub wrote: »
    Haha, nothings free in this life man.
    Careful now, you need to read the forum charter - especially clause 1B.


  • #13
    Sid_Justice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭Sid_Justice


    valdub wrote: »
    You couldn't be further off the mark Sid. Come to the seminar and if you still have the same opinion after it, I'll give you your 30euro back out of my own pocket.

    are you lee o'dwyer?


  • #14
    Doyler92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭Doyler92


    Is this suitable for an absolute beginner with no knowledge of self defence?


  • #15
    Dave Joyce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭Dave Joyce


    Hey Valdub, any clips of the multiple attackers stuff?


  • #16
    valdub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭valdub


    Doyler92 wrote: »
    Is this suitable for an absolute beginner with no knowledge of self defence?

    This seminar is aimed at all levels from beginners to expert, both male and female.

    All are welcome


  • #17
    valdub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭valdub


    Dave Joyce wrote: »
    Hey Valdub, any clips of the multiple attackers stuff?

    Not at the moment Dave. Sorry mate. Come to the seminar, far better in real life! :D


  • #18
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    valdub wrote: »
    Haha, nothings free in this life man.

    It was a tongue in cheek comment actually, if I was doing a self defence seminar it wouldn't be a Krav one.

    Trained K.M. with the IDF when I was serving on the Israeli/Lebanese border, and without exception each and every instructor trained in the likes of Judo, Boxing, Karate etc - not one expressed a confidence in training K.M. alone.

    But hey, best of luck with the seminar.


  • #19
    valdub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭valdub


    Caylee Full Uterus wrote: »
    It was a tongue in cheek comment actually, if I was doing a self defence seminar it wouldn't be a Krav one.

    Trained K.M. with the IDF when I was serving on the Israeli/Lebanese border, and without exception each and every instructor trained in the likes of Judo, Boxing, Karate etc - not one expressed a confidence in training K.M. alone.

    But hey, best of luck with the seminar.

    Cheers man, appreciate it.

    The two Israeli's that are coming over to do the seminar have over 40yrs of martial arts experience between them.
    I have experience with various forms and boxing.

    IMO and the opinion of anyone I know who has trained in or knows anything about Krav Maga would agree, that if you are looking to learn how to defend yourself fast and effectively there's nothing that comes close to Krav Maga.


  • #20
    Remmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Remmy


    valdub wrote: »

    IMO and the opinion of anyone I know who has trained in or knows anything about Krav Maga would agree, that if you are looking to learn how to defend yourself fast and effectively there's nothing that comes close to Krav Maga.

    If someones was just looking to be able to defend themselves would a month training in their local boxing/kickboxing etc club not be more effective than a month training in a KM club ?If not why not?

    I have nothing against KM btw If I was anywhere near Dublin then I'd probablly go to it for the craic.


  • #21
    valdub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭valdub


    Remmy wrote: »
    If someones was just looking to be able to defend themselves would a month training in their local boxing/kickboxing etc club not be more effective than a month training in a KM club ?If not why not?

    I have nothing against KM btw If I was anywhere near Dublin then I'd probablly go to it for the craic.

    No.

    Kickboxing and boxing (I love both) are great sports, but thats where the problem lies. Sports have rules, Krav Maga has no rules.

    Kickboxing and boxing teach you how to score points, you are not expected to go from 0 to 100 in less than a second. You have time to assess the situation, feel out your opponent. If you loose a fight you can come back tomorrow and try again. Realistically you train for the ring not for the street.
    They don't incorporate the situations, violence, weapons and number of attackers you could face in real life scenarios, Krav Maga does.

    Krav Maga teaches you to do what needs to be done to get home safe using what ever means necessary to get the job done. It is very easy to learn because it is based on reflexive/instinctive movements and is very practical cutting out all nonessential movements, there are no kata's or bizarre unnatural stances.

    If you were to go to you local boxing/kickboxing club, you would train 50/50 against one opponent in a controled environment.
    On the other hand, we will teach you how to defend yourself against multiple attackers, armed or unarmed in various situations and scenarios.

    You should try get up to the seminar Remmy, it's worth the trek. Hope to see you there mate!


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  • #22
    Doug Cartel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭Doug Cartel


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8_zWBQXZj4

    Boxer versus multiple opponents. Now show me yours.


  • #23
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    valdub wrote: »

    Kickboxing and boxing (I love both) are great sports, but thats where the problem lies. Sports have rules, Krav Maga has no rules.

    Kickboxing and boxing teach you how to score points, you are not expected to go from 0 to 100 in less than a second. You have time to assess the situation, feel out your opponent. If you loose a fight you can come back tomorrow and try again. Realistically you train for the ring not for the street.
    They don't incorporate the situations, violence, weapons and number of attackers you could face in real life scenarios, Krav Maga does.

    I'm going to hazard a guess and say you've never competed, and you've never been in a street fight.


  • #24
    valdub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭valdub


    Multiple attackers seminar, have a look and come along if you're interested!



    Cheers


  • #25
    Gumbi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,682 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    Do these seminars/courses allow for pressure drills and the like? Or are they generally geared towards an introduction to defending oneself on the street? I'm talking generally here about courses such as the one above. Are these courses introductory? Or do they cater to ability?


  • #26
    valdub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭valdub


    Gumbi wrote: »
    Do these seminars/courses allow for pressure drills and the like? Or are they generally geared towards an introduction to defending oneself on the street? I'm talking generally here about courses such as the one above. Are these courses introductory? Or do they cater to ability?
    This seminar is geared towards all.
    There will be pressure drills and high stress scenarios.
    You will find this worth while regardless of your level or ability.


  • #27
    Niall Keane
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Niall Keane


    Ok, I was willing to live and let live until the bs about boxing and kickboxing not preparing you for multiple attackers. Fair enough the competitive sport matches one man against another, which does not preclude multiple opponent tactics, but that video was crap re multiple opponents, single kicks preventing follow ups. Or a single stick blow across the head? Come on, even the most amateur fighter probably takes several kicks and punches per round, and survives at least three, whether kickboxing, muay thai or Sanshou, this idea of taking someone out with a single strike and depending on it is a falacy and a dangerous one at that. It's as the viper would say "deluded, like a child who still believes in Santa"


  • #28
    Remmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Remmy


    Niall Keane wrote: »
    It's as the viper would say "deluded, like a child who still believes in Santa"

    Ha solid reference!:D


  • #29
    dasmoose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭dasmoose


    Echoing what Niall said 100%.

    It's only when you train alive in a sports style that you realise just how difficult it is to defeat even one person when they're not letting you. Whereas when you don't train like that... people seem to end up thinking a fight is like a game of rock paper scissors. "Oh well we'd just beat three guys by kicking one here then punching one here then using that guy as a shield"
    If you were to go to you local boxing/kickboxing club, you would train 50/50 against one opponent in a controled environment.
    On the other hand, we will teach you how to defend yourself against multiple attackers, armed or unarmed in various situations and scenarios.

    Krav maga guys (and others like you) are always coming out with stuff like this and the reality is your training just looks like slightly sociopathic role playing games. You're not teaching people how to really do any of that, you're teaching them how to pretend to hit guys who aren't fighting back.


  • #30
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Caylee Full Uterus wrote: »
    30 Euro sounds like good value, best of luck with.
    valdub wrote: »
    Multiple attackers seminar, have a look and come along if you're interested!






    valdub wrote: »
    You said yourself, 30euros wont break the bank and it will be money well spent!!!

    I take it back, based on those clips, and this post;
    Kickboxing and boxing (I love both) are great sports, but thats where the problem lies. Sports have rules, Krav Maga has no rules.

    Kickboxing and boxing teach you how to score points, you are not expected to go from 0 to 100 in less than a second. You have time to assess the situation, feel out your opponent. If you loose a fight you can come back tomorrow and try again. Realistically you train for the ring not for the street.
    They don't incorporate the situations, violence, weapons and number of attackers you could face in real life scenarios, Krav Maga does.

    I couldn't recommend that seminar to anyone.


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  • #31
    Opinicus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 816 ✭✭✭Opinicus


    valdub wrote: »
    You have time to assess the situation, feel out your opponent. If you loose a fight you can come back tomorrow and try again.

    No one steps onto the mat/ring with that attitude cos you'd lose every single time, and I have seen fights in every sport end in seconds.


    valdub wrote: »
    If you were to go to you local boxing/kickboxing club, you would train 50/50 against one opponent in a controled environment.
    On the other hand, we will teach you how to defend yourself against multiple attackers, armed or unarmed in various situations and scenarios.


    Pointless unless the attacker(s) are resisting surely? Otherwise it's like doing uchi komis (practice throws) without randori (sparring) and expecting to be good.


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