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Failed Driving Test Wrongly

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭tcawley29


    best of luck with ye're next tests. however that is the only tester in that location. my adi instructor was actually more upset than i was over the whole think. he really thought i was going to pass. he said there was no way in hell that i could have failed a test that bad. in the end he put it down to the tester having reached the quota of people he could pass per week. now im gonna have to do the test in a completely different town to get a different tester. thankfully sligo has a much higher pass rate than ballina though :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,374 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    If I don't pass this time in Raheny, I'll go to Portlaoise or Navan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭matt70iu


    I don't believe that the testers have a quotea per say. I think that if they're not happy with your driving for whatever reason, they'll mark you.

    There are going to be differances from tester to tester as they are all human, but at the end of the day, they are all that is standing between you and a licence to drive all over europe and other countries as well as Ireland.

    I passed on my third attempt. Got a good instructor, listened to and put into practise everthing he taught me.

    Even things which they wouldn;t really mark you on, like crossing my hands, I got him to drill out of me.

    Start from a clean slate, asuming you know nothing about driving, that way you will be open and taachable and be able to fine tune your driving to test standards.

    Just keep at it, learn from but put this test behind you. You will get there!

    Best of luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 495 ✭✭brian076


    In fairness to the OP I think some of the replies have been a bit harsh. One of the drawbacks with the driving test is that it basically takes a 25/30 minute snapshot of your driving, and you could be lucky and sail around the route with nothing out of the ordinary happening, whereas you could also be faced with someone running out in front of you or lights changing to amber as you approach and having to make a split second decision whether to go or stop. (Could possibly have been the OP's Grade 3 on Reaction to Hazard)

    Last year one of my pupils who had taken about 20 lessons with me from a beginner sat her test and failed with 21 grade 2's and 2 grade 3's, even though I felt she was more than ready for the test at at the time. In fact the tester asked her afterwards if she'd ever had a driving lesson, which didn't make me feel too good.

    She re-applied straight away and got a cancellation 3 weeks later, took 1 more pre-test with me and passed with 2 grade 2 faults.

    She felt that she drove the same in both tests, but obviously either the second tester took a more lenient view to her driving faults or she drove for 25 minutes in an almost perfect manner. Either way, for a lot of learners there's a very fine line between pass and fail, and you could sit 10 tests one after the other and get 10 totally different results


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭tcawley29


    matt70iu wrote: »
    I don't believe that the testers have a quotea per say. I think that if they're not happy with your driving for whatever reason, they'll mark you.

    There are going to be differances from tester to tester as they are all human, but at the end of the day, they are all that is standing between you and a licence to drive all over europe and other countries as well as Ireland.

    I passed on my third attempt. Got a good instructor, listened to and put into practise everthing he taught me.

    Even things which they wouldn;t really mark you on, like crossing my hands, I got him to drill out of me.

    Start from a clean slate, asuming you know nothing about driving, that way you will be open and taachable and be able to fine tune your driving to test standards.

    Just keep at it, learn from but put this test behind you. You will get there!

    Best of luck!
    thanks buddy. thats exactly what im gonna do. although my current instructor is great and gets me to drill out the mistakes and says i always listen to that when he says so i still have to change towns to get a different tester. my friend passed first time in sligo and was very happy with his instructor so im gonna try and get him for next week :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭tcawley29


    brian076 wrote: »
    In fairness to the OP I think some of the replies have been a bit harsh. One of the drawbacks with the driving test is that it basically takes a 25/30 minute snapshot of your driving, and you could be lucky and sail around the route with nothing out of the ordinary happening, whereas you could also be faced with someone running out in front of you or lights changing to amber as you approach and having to make a split second decision whether to go or stop. (Could possibly have been the OP's Grade 3 on Reaction to Hazard)

    Last year one of my pupils who had taken about 20 lessons with me from a beginner sat her test and failed with 21 grade 2's and 2 grade 3's, even though I felt she was more than ready for the test at at the time. In fact the tester asked her afterwards if she'd ever had a driving lesson, which didn't make me feel too good.

    She re-applied straight away and got a cancellation 3 weeks later, took 1 more pre-test with me and passed with 2 grade 2 faults.

    She felt that she drove the same in both tests, but obviously either the second tester took a more lenient view to her driving faults or she drove for 25 minutes in an almost perfect manner. Either way, for a lot of learners there's a very fine line between pass and fail, and you could sit 10 tests one after the other and get 10 totally different results
    feels good to see an instructors point of view on this. even though i know in my heart and soul that i was marked too had i dont think im gonna bother appealing it. it would be just a waste of time since the testers would only stand up for each other and have them all marking me harder. just gonna get another few lessons and reapply again tomorrow. still though at the end of the day its a lot of money spent :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭matt70iu


    tcawley29 wrote: »
    thanks buddy. thats exactly what im gonna do. although my current instructor is great and gets me to drill out the mistakes and says i always listen to that when he says so i still have to change towns to get a different tester. my friend passed first time in sligo and was very happy with his instructor so im gonna try and get him for next week :)

    Sounds good. Just make sure ya have a drive around the town you intend to do the test in with you instructor if possible:)

    Will give you that extra bit of confidence on test day. Just think of it like this, once you have the test, you 'll never have to do it again!

    There's no doubt that the driving test is a daunting experience. A friend of mine who has a masters degree in philosophy failed his test 7 times!! So how smart you are in not relavent that's for sure!

    Keep us posted anyway!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭tcawley29


    matt70iu wrote: »
    Sounds good. Just make sure ya have a drive around the town you intend to do the test in with you instructor if possible:)

    Will give you that extra bit of confidence on test day. Just think of it like this, once you have the test, you 'll never have to do it again!

    There's no doubt that the driving test is a daunting experience. A friend of mine who has a masters degree in philosophy failed his test 7 times!! So how smart you are in not relavent that's for sure!

    Keep us posted anyway!
    will do :) have the theory side of it well under control anyways. think im just gonna use my mothers car for it this time though as im more comfortable with it (toyota corolla 1.4 diesel).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭donegal2011


    HI

    HOPE ALL IS WELL

    I DONE MY TEST FOUR TIME THE FIRST THREE WITH SAME TESTER AND LAST TIME WITH TESTER SUPERVISOR AS I ASK FOR HIM....
    SHOULD I APPEAL IT AGAIN TESTER SUPERVISOR ...


    I WENT TO EVERY TDS IN MY AREA..

    ANY HELP OR WHAY SHOULD I DO...

    THANKS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭matt70iu


    HI

    HOPE ALL IS WELL

    I DONE MY TEST FOUR TIME THE FIRST THREE WITH SAME TESTER AND LAST TIME WITH TESTER SUPERVISOR AS I ASK FOR HIM....
    SHOULD I APPEAL IT AGAIN TESTER SUPERVISOR ...


    I WENT TO EVERY TDS IN MY AREA..

    ANY HELP OR WHAY SHOULD I DO...

    THANKS

    Sorry to hear you failed. You can appeal the test failure to the district court if you like. The best result that you can get from that is a free resit. The result itself cannot be changed.

    As for going to your local TD's the son of a fairly prominent TD in my area recently failed his test. So politics doesn't come into it and rightly so.

    I would suggest just putting it behind you, and applying again. We all have to do it to drive, so keep trying and you'll get it in the end!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,089 ✭✭✭✭LizT


    tcawley29 wrote: »
    will do :) have the theory side of it well under control anyways. think im just gonna use my mothers car for it this time though as im more comfortable with it (toyota corolla 1.4 diesel).

    Being in a car that you're comfortable in will make a huge difference to your test. I was in a var that I had only driven 3 times before my test and I failed. It obviously wasn't just due to the car but I wasn't comfortable doing the turnabout in it and wasn't 100% sure about the biting point...

    I know how it feels to fail when you think you're going to pass, but you've just got to suck it up and re-apply. That's what I did and I'm waiting on a test date now. I was raging when I failed but in all honesty I don't think I was ready to pass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,932 ✭✭✭Alkers


    You've got to factor in your nerves too. Practice driving with a couple of different people rather than with your normal accompanying driver. Each new person will be aware of being in a car with a learner and will over examine your driving. Then you can practice driving where the front seat passenger is relaxed and feels safe with you at the wheel. If you can do this to your tester on the day you won't get many marks. You need to be confident but not cocky and demonstrate that you are a good safe driver but that you don't assume it to be your right to have a full licence. Best of luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭donegal2011


    thanks to matt70iu...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭DazMarz


    I got 'done' the first time out on my driving test, and it was largely down to nerves (if not totally down to them!).

    Second time out, I sailed through it, passed with flying colours and so on.

    While I was irritated and annoyed at failing, I realised that the faults I got were genuine and one of them could have caused a huge traffic snarl-up had it been at a busy time (failing to continue through a junction). The fact is, that with 17 Grade 2's and a Grade 3, I do not think that a tester is out to get you or deliberately fail you or anything like that.

    I'd just grit my teeth, apply again and put it down to experience. What I did, more or less. And I guarantee you, you will find it much easier going 2nd time out!

    Good luck!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭DrivingTestTips: Brian


    @ OP
    tcawley29 wrote: »
    1 grade 2 on position turning right
    either to far or to close.
    3 grade 2 on reaction to hazard
    1 grade 3 on reaction to hazard
    this is either your speed or not avoiding properly.
    1 grade 2 on misleading signal
    giving a signal when not needed
    2 grade 2 on progress turning left
    when you know the road is clear you should drive on.
    3 grade 2 on position at traffic lights
    Stopping where you can see the light and not over the stop line.
    1 grade 1 on accelerator
    using it correctly.
    1 grade 1 on clutch
    1 grade 2 on clutch
    using it correctly
    1 grade 2 on gears
    using it correctly (Gears as you need them, 4th gear at 50km,h
    1 grade 2 on footbrake
    1 grade 1 on footbrake
    using it correctly (not to hard or soft)
    1 grade 2 on speed road conditions
    speed road conditions "that is it in a nut-shell".
    1 grade 2 on speed traffic conditions
    again I see your issue is on changing your speed to suit the situation
    1 grade 1 on reverse competently
    don't worry just practice this.
    1 grade 2 on reverse observation
    Don't look around like a robot, look because you know how to do it.
    1 grade 2 on turnabout
    I take it...... as more practice.

    Look at the FREE videos on DrivingTestTips.ie and see if they can help you.
    Let me know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭apoeiguq3094y


    tcawley29 wrote: »
    no he was useless because he was poor at explaining and always did the clutch work himself. he was also big headed aswell.

    My first instructor used to do the clutch work too, which drove me nuts, especially cos she didn't tell me she was doing it.

    The second guy was very methodical. List of exactly what I was doing wrong, and clear steps how to do it right. He's based in galway if you want to try him PM me for details.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 Blackandwhite2


    Just failed my driving test yesterday and I swear if you looked at my test you would believe there is a quota to fail a certain amount of people a day... 4 grade 2s, all in different areas and then one grade 3 in turning right (but no grades 2s in that section which proves that apart from one junction in about 20 my right turns were grand). I don't recall any junctions where I did anything derserving of a grade 3 such as hitting the curb or cutting corners, and the tester did not tell me where I did it despite me asking him. I have a susipcision he marked something after one turn I did in the last minute of the test, it might have been then. I really don't see why he would not pass me as I obviously was a compentant driver apart from perhaps one mistake (which I don't even recall). I really think there should be more grey areas, and making people pay another €85 into your pocket and wait another 11 weeks is absolutely ridiculous.


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