Cost of getting a dish realigned

oconnorw · 05-05-2011 08:34PM #1

What would the average cost be in the Dublin area
Thanks

seanmacc · 06-05-2011 07:18AM

It's not actually that hard to do it yourself. You can buy an electronic sat finder. Its just a matter of been able to get up a ladder, loosen a couple of bolts and tighten them where the sat finder gives you the loudest beep. It may not be your Satilite thats off alignment. If its signal issues you have it could well be the LNB or a corroded cable.

John mac · 06-05-2011 08:59PM

you could ring sky(presuming you are using the service) and say you want to cancel, because the signal keeps disappearing.

they might give you a free call out.

excollier · 06-05-2011 10:02PM

I think it would be expensive if you were charged more than €30, it,s only a ten minute job, after all.

Tony · 07-05-2011 09:46AM

excollier wrote: »

I think it would be expensive if you were charged more than €30, it,s only a ten minute job, after all.

Its not a ten minute job unless he has satellite installer living next door.

excollier · 07-05-2011 10:27AM

It is a ten minute job when the installer gets there, unless the dish has rotted off it fixings, how big is Dublin, surely it's not going to cost a more than half a gallon of diesel in to get there, likely much less.

kbell · 07-05-2011 10:41AM

Depending on dish location, it can be any amount of time.

excollier · 07-05-2011 10:47AM

Yes, ok, but generally speaking, ten minutes. Dishes rarely go so far out of line.
Point taken, it could, conceivably, take much longer, but not usually.
Look on the positive side, the OP is looking for a simple dish re-alignment, not a day's work.

kbell · 07-05-2011 10:55AM

Assuming it is the dish that's at fault.

excollier · 07-05-2011 11:05AM

Now come on, he asked for a dish re-alignment, I gave a sensible price for just that, any number of other problems could have occurred, surely, but just walk up a ladder to re-align a dish, plain and simple, €30 would be plenty, any more would be just plain greedy.
End of.

kbell · 07-05-2011 11:19AM

excollier wrote: »

Now come on, he asked for a dish re-alignment, I gave a sensible price for just that

How much do you charge for installing a dish, seeing as your obviously in the trade??

Tony · 07-05-2011 11:35AM

Sorry but thats just utter nonsense , why must we always have this arguement every time this topic crops up.

Firstly take vat off that €30 , take fuel and insurance out both for the vehicle and public liability. Factor in the cost of the vehicle and tools/equipment (unless someone gave you all this for nothing)

Nobody just "walks" up a ladder and theres nothing plain and simple about realigning a dish, it takes time,care and attention to detail to do it right.

OP I would go with John Mac's suggestion, ring sky and threaten to cancel, they will most likely give you a free service call to hold on to your monthly payment to them.

excollier wrote: »

Now come on, he asked for a dish re-alignment, I gave a sensible price for just that, any number of other problems could have occurred, surely, but just walk up a ladder to re-align a dish, plain and simple, €30 would be plenty, any more would be just plain greedy.
End of.

excollier · 07-05-2011 03:17PM

Well, having installed many dishes, of all types, I beg to differ, re-aligning is simple and quick nine times out of ten, and does only take ten minutes or so.
To say otherwise, especially about a Sky dish, or anything aligned to 28.2e (or 13e or 19.2e) is not being honest, is it?
So unless it is really difficult to access, and takes ages to do so, then it really is a simple quick task with a half decent meter.
What more can I be than honest.

Tony · 07-05-2011 03:19PM

Then you should contact the OP and offer to do it for 30 euro after all it only takes ten minutes. Does every dish realignment you do in Donegal take ten minutes ? I seriously doubt that.

Do you pay vat , vehicle insurance and public liabilty insurance ?

If you want to have a rational discussion then questioing others honesty is really not the way to go.

darth_maul · 07-05-2011 09:11PM

to say it will only take 10 minutes is stupid, as a fellow installer in Donegal a "simple re-alignment" usually involves rusty bolts, rotten cable, rusty dish, Now how a phone call or enquiry with a person looking for a dish re-alignment should go is, explaining to them that a No signal fault may or may not be a dish re-alignment, it could be a number of things and you would have to see it first before knowing. Remember that we are working at heights and with heights comes a certain amount of danger which also has to be factored in. As does the cost of your decent meter. Its not just our time we are selling, its our experience, knowledge and access to specialised equipment as well as the travel and on-site time.

now a local call to a dish that I had put up, which is at a convenient height and was just actually just needing re-alignment then less than €50 would be about right.

Oh and to say that "how big is Dublin" is again silly, Dublin may be small but travelling around in traffic can be time and fuel consuming which all has to be factored in. Also you have to remember that in Dublin unlike Donegal most houses are 2 storey and many have their dishes on the chimney. (must declare that I am a Dub living and working in Donegal)

Now when we rid this trade of the taximen come installers (like our previous poster) who charge feck all cause they have another source of income and no tax or insurance liabilities then we may be able to make a decent living and the customer may get a better service.

FRIENDO · 07-05-2011 09:52PM

I believe it would cost 65 to 70 Euro, approximately the same price as a call out charge for a workman to service a dishwasher or washing machine.

ISAA · 07-05-2011 10:05PM

10 minutes my arse, travel time, Insurance, Tools, VAT, etc, cop on, 60-70 euro is a more correct price.
It's a sputid statements, 30 euro for a repoint, that puts professional installers out of business. Only part time, and doing another job, would do a job for 30 quid.:mad:

Regards,

St Senan · 07-05-2011 11:55PM

darth_maul wrote: »

Now when we rid this trade of the taximen come installers (like our previous poster) who charge feck all cause they have another source of income and no tax or insurance liabilities then we may be able to make a decent living and the customer may get a better service.

Agree 100%. there has been many a thread on here Locked or destroyed with regards to guys double jobbing or chancers putting up dishes.Of course these chancers can charge €30 to drive the length of there county put a ladder and realign a dish and not paying a cent in tax or have no pl insurance.

STB · 08-05-2011 02:15PM

Same individuals all the time as well Scaller!!

Even a galloping horse would notice who was in the trade and who wasnt!

Feckin tradesmen earning a living, shame on you chancers.

excollier · 08-05-2011 07:11PM

STB wrote: »

Same individuals all the time as well Scaller!!

Even a galloping horse would notice who was in the trade and who wasnt!

Feckin tradesmen earning a living, shame on you chancers.

Calm down everyone.
I am no chancer, I simply answered the original question how much to realign a dish - €30 if it is straight forward and it takes about ten minutes. Which usually it does
And by the way I was using a good quality meter, a Satlook Micro G2, but the Lacuna which I also used is good enough for Astra 2.
Did I call anyone a chancer?
Thanks Darth-Maul, you are rid of some competition up here, I de-registered last December. More money for you and ISAA, eh? Good luck.

Tony · 09-05-2011 01:14AM

excollier wrote: »

I simply answered the original question how much to realign a dish - €30 if it is straight forward

Fine then send pm to the OP and arrange a convenient time.

Straight forward will not work if the house is facing north.

excollier wrote: »

Did I call anyone a chancer?

No just dishonest

excollier · 09-05-2011 10:44AM

Well if you find aligning a dish to Astra 1 & 2 and Hotbird difficult, then what does that say, I apologise to you and grovellingly retract all that I said before. Obviously they must be hard to detect.
If a previously fully working dish is already fitted on a north facing house, and it has simply moved slightly, then it is no more difficult than any other dish, so that argument carries no extra monetary charge.
Anyway, my apologies to the OP for how this thread has been hijacked, and I hope he finds someone in Dublin to fix his dish for a reasonable cost.

Tony · 09-05-2011 11:36AM

excollier wrote: »

I hope he finds someone in Dublin to fix his dish for a reasonable cost.

So your not doing it for him then ? It only takes a few minutes ?

St Senan · 09-05-2011 12:18PM

Any guy who would travel to a house to realign a satellite dish for €30 is not legit in this business simple as that. To say to legit installers it would only take 10 mins is insane
I do a lot of Service calls during a month. An average time to a call out to a house is anything between 45 mins to 1hour 30mins. Again I say any guy who would charge less than €60 for a call out is not paying a cent to the TAX man. After deductions are made from €60 for Diesal, PL insurance, and Tax man then a legit installer would probably be left with around €30.

Owen · 09-05-2011 12:23PM

excollier wrote: »

If a previously fully working dish is already fitted on a north facing house, and it has simply moved slightly, then it is no more difficult than any other dish

You're assuming the customer's diagnosis is correct? A lot of people think 'oh the dish moved', when it could be the LNB, or the cable after getting at fault.

Your price estimate of 30 Euro's clearly based on no knowledge of running any business whatsoever. Subtract the price of Diesel, and you're down 10 euro minimum. So 20 Euro to take potentially 2 hours out of your day with Dublin traffic to 'simly relign a dish'.

staker · 09-05-2011 12:27PM

scaller wrote: »

Any guy who would travel to a house to realign a satellite dish for €30 is not legit in this business simple as that.

How about the fella who installs a B&Q's best for €30,the punter becomes so exasperated after having no signal and no returned or answered calls he rings a professional service and baulks at the prospect of having to pay for a call out,and possibly a new dish?

St Senan · 09-05-2011 12:38PM

staker wrote: »

How about the fella who installs a B&Q's best for €30,the punter becomes so exasperated after having no signal and no returned or answered calls he rings a professional service and baulks at the prospect of having to pay for a call out,and possibly a new dish?

B&Q in Waterford are selling the ****e Ross kit for €40.50.

excollier · 09-05-2011 04:20PM

Tony wrote: »

So your not doing it for him then ? It only takes a few minutes ?

Grow up. I live in Donegal. If I lived in Dublin I would, and after all we were discussing a simple realign here.

Did you never consider, also, that many sole traders never approach the sort of turnover that requires a vat reg, so that knocks that argument on the. head straight away.
And what is the problem on here with someone doing installs as a part time business, there is no law against it. As long as quality gear is used and installed properly and safely, where is your gripe with a part time, legally registered business? We all need to earn a living, somehow.

excollier · 09-05-2011 04:30PM

scaller wrote: »

Any guy who would travel to a house to realign a satellite dish for €30 is not legit in this business simple as that. To say to legit installers it would only take 10 mins is insane I do a lot of Service calls during a month. An average time to a call out to a house is anything between 45 mins to 1hour 30mins. Again I say any guy who would charge less than €60 for a call out is not paying a cent to the TAX man. After deductions are made from €60 for Diesal, PL insurance, and Tax man then a legit installer would probably be left with around €30.

Prove that statement. I always paid my tax.
You can stop the witchhunt .
Your minds are made up and closed.
Once again, my apologies to the OP.

St Senan · 09-05-2011 05:01PM

I am not on a Witch Hunt. Can you prove to us how you can Justify charging €30 for a call-out fee to realign a dish and also deduct your Diesel, Tax and Public liability insurance from the €30. It seems that the only person that could do this is someone who has a different job with income and is working at dishes in his spare time.

Tony · 09-05-2011 05:06PM

excollier wrote: »

Grow up.

Great debating skills there

excollier wrote: »

I live in Donegal.

Correct but according to your logic travelling expenses do not come into play

excollier wrote: »

If I lived in Dublin I would, and after all we were discussing a simple realign here.

Theres no such thing as a simple realign if the job is to be done properly . The only thing "simple" here is your farcical arguemnt that has no basis in the real world.

excollier wrote: »

Did you never consider, also, that many sole traders never approach the sort of turnover that requires a vat reg, so that knocks that argument on the. head straight away.

How does it knock the arguemnt on the head since you refuse to answer the questions put to you. Do you even know what the threshold is for VAT registration ?
You have yet to answer the question as t whether you carry public liability insurance , perhaps you consider than an optional extra which a part timer does not need ?

Cost of getting a dish realigned

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