Nokia phasing out Symbian OS- should I still buy Nokia phone with Symbian OS?

greenhouse1234 wrote: »

I was going to buy new nokia smartphone, looking around found that nokia is ditching its very own Symbian OS!!!

here is the link:

http://tinyurl.com/6yb52v2

should I buy new nokia smartphone with OS which will have no future updates...no support...goin to wall altogether?

will thats mean all nokia phones will be gone soon from shops!!!

any thoughts or suggestions??

Regards

Nokia ditched Symbian from its smartphones in favour of Win Phone 7 which they should have out by the end of the year. While the current range of Symbian phones wont just vanish over night, judging from past experience I don't see Nokia investing much more into supporting existing Symbian phones.

Checking out the Android or Apple range of phones would be you're best bet tbh.

Kevin Irving wrote: »

Nokia were right to not to go with Android in my opinion. Look at the amount of crappy Android phones out there, they turn me of the whole "ecosystem" when I see them. They're awful.

Share performance since Jan 1, 2008: Nokia -72%, HTC +163%.

That means that if you invested 10,000 in each company on Jan 1, 2008, the Nokia shares today would be worth 2,764 while the HTC shares would be worth 26,341.

So if you could turn back the clock to the beginning of 2008, you'd still invest your nest egg in Nokia and not HTC because Nokia were 'right not to go with Android'?

Didn't think so!

Kevin Irving wrote: »

I agree with you from a profit point of view, the smart money is on Android right now. I don't like it though, and for Nokia to even have a chance of succeding a few years down the line, they need to offer something different to the competition.

Well getting into bed with Bill Gates certainly won't save them. There is a huge resistance to Microsoft making any inroads into the mobile device market, they have tried umpteen times and failed thanks to consumer resistance.

Nobody wants to see the situation with the PC market replicated in the handset market where one company dominates by having >80% of the OS footprints and thus the ability to crush anyone who tries to muscle in on their turf by competing with their core applications. Think MS Office and look at what happened to Lotus 1-2-3 and Wordperfect, both leading applications which Microsoft saw off by predatory pricing and downright sabotage. Steve Jobs is no saint but at least he isn't ramming his own apps down our throats, there is a pretty level playing field in the iTunes store.

Corporate users in many cases have no choice but to go Blackberry, everyone else who wants a smartphone with a decent catalogue of apps. will go for either iPhone or Android, everyone else is going to get squeezed out.

Nokia went to their customers, and asked them what they wanted, and their customers said "Not Android".

Remember, you're not Nokia's customers - O2, Vodafone, T-Mobile, Orange are Nokia's customers. The operators don't like to have one manufacturer holding them to ransom: Nokia going with Android would have given Google about 60--70% of the world market, and that's not good for anyone in the long run (having 60--70% of the smartphone market is what left Symbian in the mess that it's only now getting out of).

On the original question, Symbian will be around for another two years definitely, beyond that it's hard to tell.

If you plan on keeping your phones for longer than three years, maybe look elsewhere, but only Nokia or Apple support their devices for this long.

There is NO reason to NOT get a Nokia, and do not believe the "everyone ditched Nokia" bs...
The N8 sold over 4 million times in Q4 2010 - beating the Samsung Galaxy S and countless other Android phones.
The C7 is very successful as well; even in the USA it scores okay in reviews.

The E6 is getting good reviews.
Nokia confirmed new Symbian phones throughout 2011/12.
They are contractually bound to support handsets software-wise for another 2 years. They will MOST CERTAINLY not 'ditch' Symbian, before they know where wp7 is taking them.
There are many 'reports' circulating that distort what is really going on - even the Financial Times referred to the MS deal as a 'hostile takeover by stealth'

Terms like marketshare, user base, sales and profits etc are deliberately used vaguely and often incorrectly.
Often it is ignored to mention who quoted analysts really are - usually they work for shareholders and banks. Not for end-consumers. Famous poster boys Gartners are known to sell 'trends'. Microsoft have been caught paying them. Go figure

I work in the tech review 'scene' and a lot of nonsense is regurgitated for Google hits, not for illumination.
I am not a Nokia fanboy by any definition.

One of the high priests of 'Nokia is dead' is Russian Blogger Eldar Murtazin. It IS a fact that he lied about the N8. He also said there wouldn't be a Google Nexus - that was just an Apple rumour to annoy Google's handset alliance. He also claimed LG were NOT working on a MeeGo handser 48 hours before LG confirmed they have a Meego smartphone prototype... Go figure.

Nokia was named most trusted western brand in China...you know, that 'little' market not so long ago. India, another little market has over 200000 stores selling and servicing Nokia devices. There will be support for Nokia symbian and s40 devices well into the future.
Everything else is bull****.

Cool Kool-Aid strecker. Nokia themselves don't even agree with you, otherwise they wouldn't have ditched their platforms.

Eh yes they are ditching it, spin it however you like.

Btw, everyones kool aid tastes better than Nokias

Nokia users are understandably irate, as demonstrated by Stecker.

Excuse me, how did 'having 60-70% of the smartphone market' get Nokia into the mess they're in? Surely if they had that much of the market they could have persuaded people to develop decent applications?

You don't persuade developers to write for you - they decide themselves where the money is. Apple have the money-spending customers; Nokia used to, but back then, there was no large-scale sales model for phone applications, and no real awareness of needing applications at all.

By the way, Apple never persuaded their developers to "develop decent applications" - it was the other way round in fact. It was only pressure from Apple's independent developers that forced Apple to open the iPhone SDK at all (something that is forgotten now, but originally "apps" could only be HTML widgets).


As for the 70% being bad: Ever wonder why NTL's customer service is so ****? Or why MS Windows lagged behind MacOS despite Microsoft's huge revenues? Having a monopoly, or a near-monopoly, means that a company stops improving its product, and looks for other, easier ways to increase profits. Plus, if you've already got 70% of the market, the chances are that the remaining 30% will NEVER buy your product no matter how good you make it, so why chase them and risk losing part of the 70% that DO like you?

There's a diminishing return on product investment, because over a certain marketshare, customers will continue to buy your products becuase it's what everyone else buys - against that backdrop, it's hard to justify a software improvement, when there are easier, less risky ways to increase margins (like the 8800 series). Doing this reduces the risk of being wiped out by a bad product (think what would happen to Apple if the next iPhone was a failure - they have no plan , but it makes a company vulnerable to a technology shift (Microcomputers vs IBM), or unexpected competition (Japanese vs US auto industry) or commoditisation of their product (budget airlines, PC clones, off-the-shelf GSM/3G phones).

Three 4chan memes in one post. oh dear.

Nah, it's just that it undermines your (valid) point, and makes you sound like a fifteen-year-old troll, which you aren't.