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5 String Bass recommendations

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    flameboy87 wrote: »
    Any other ideas let me know anyway guys.

    I have no personal experience with the Spector Euro, but any reviews I've read have been positive.

    More research for you !! ;)



    http://www.music123.com/product/Euro-5-LX-5-String-Bass-Guitar.site7prod517428.product


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭flameboy87


    Ya the spectors look class alright but know nothing about their tone, the true neck is pretty cool on the bass here http://www.spectorbass.com/usa/neck-thru/forte_5.html. The price is definitely out of my league but its something to definitely keep an eye out for in cause i do get the unlikely chance of playing one.

    Does any one know anything about schector basses? I know they make good guitars.... but does cross over to the basses too???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    flameboy87 wrote: »
    Does any one know anything about schector basses? I know they make good guitars.... but does cross over to the basses too???

    You could browse and search here, or register and ask questions. Lots of info on everything to do with bass :




    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f8/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 352 ✭✭reniwren




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,077 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    reniwren wrote: »
    http://www.musik-schmidt.de/gb-Warwick-Robert-Trujillo-Signature.html

    although why anyone would want and pay that much for a Robert Trujillo Signature is beyond me:confused:
    €6,098! I had to do a double take on that price.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    Malice wrote: »
    €6,098! I had to do a double take on that price.

    Buying the real Robert Trujillo himself would probably be cheaper to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    Also, those Yamaha BB basses always remind me of Mr. Mister, which I suppose is probably a good thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭flameboy87


    Thats actually a great site, loads more basses that I have never seen before. Found this bass here at http://www.musik-schmidt.de/gb-Human-Base-BaseX-OC-5-BK.html. Never seen anyone playing Human basses before, anyone know anything about how good they are. They are pretty expensive but this doesn't guarantee good quality sound.

    And yes.....6grand is ridiculous for any bass, but its a shame to say that there will still be people out there to buy it for the name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 352 ✭✭reniwren


    Human base are a high end German maker as far as i remember, another good site is http://www.station-music.de very high end stuff on it like FBass yet to hear anything bad about FBass


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭jarain


    http://www.ibanez.com/BassGuitars/model-SR505

    In terms of Ibanez basses I played my mates Ibanez SR505 over the weekend (linked above) and was blown away. Bartolini Pickups with a nice active EQ and a slim fast neck

    €658 on Thomann. http://www.thomann.de/ie/ibanez_sr505bm_5string_ebass.htm


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭flameboy87


    Thanks Jarain, good to know that the SR range is very reliable, Bartolinis are usually top notch.

    I think i'm going to take a chance and get an Ibanez SR605 http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/eb_page11.php?area_id=3&data_id=90&color=CL01&year=2011&cat_id=2&series_id=469

    Going to order it in the next two weeks or so. Fingers crossed me thinks :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,077 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    flameboy87 wrote: »
    Thanks Jarain, good to know that the SR range is very reliable, Bartolinis are usually top notch.

    I think i'm going to take a chance and get an Ibanez SR605 http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/eb_page11.php?area_id=3&data_id=90&color=CL01&year=2011&cat_id=2&series_id=469

    Going to order it in the next two weeks or so. Fingers crossed me thinks :D
    Unless I'm misreading the spec sheets it looks like it contains the same Bartolini pickups as my SR706. They do sound great so you should do well with it. I have to say I'm not a fan of that natural finish though but each to their own :).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭flameboy87


    Oh I must say I think the Natural finish is sexy haha but as you say, each to their own. I always seem to prefer natural finishes to painted finishes but depends on the bass too, Ibanez have some nice wood finishes :)

    Oh and thanks for letting me know about the PU's too, Going to order it as soon as my next big fat pay-cheque comes through the door :P haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,077 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    Don't forget to put up pics here when it arrives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    Or in a new thread, which is altogether more exciting for everyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭flameboy87


    Of course I will post it up guys, must also post up some pics of my other gear, not that my other basses are anything worth talking about but at least my amp is a bit different :P thanks again for all your help guys!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11 MAndrew


    I absolutely love Fender Jazz Basses, so I would pick that. But it is better that you play the guitar before deciding (But I bet you already know that). Two same models can play very differently, so always test before buying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭flameboy87


    Ya i know that you should always try the exact bass that you wish to buy but after all this is Ireland we're living in and we just don't have shops who stock basses that are past the whole beginners stage. They aren't willing to put in the risk of buying in expensive gear incase they can't shift them. Its sad to think that risks have to be taken online to get the right bass for you unless you get one custom made.

    Fender in a 5 string wouldn't be for me i'm afraid. I do want to get one down the line in a four string but for now I want a long neck to increase the tension for the low B string. Thanks for the suggestion non the less


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    The harsh economic reality of living in Ireland means lower consumer standards. If you're ordering something online you just have to take a risk. The vast majority of gear that shows up on boards was bought online, I would suggest. Most people end up happy enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,077 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    Ravelleman wrote: »
    The harsh economic reality of living in Ireland means lower consumer standards.
    Even when Ireland was supposedly wealthy the music stores still didn't stock anything outside the standard well-known brands.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭flameboy87


    Ireland IMO just isn't a music country, not disrespecting the original artists out there but its a closed minded market here unlike our neighbours. Pity :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Seziertisch


    In my experience of cheap and mid-range 5-strings, I have found the low B to be pretty unusable, unless an unfocused mush is the desired result.

    I would imagine you would have to probably move into the top end of the market before you start getting those tight low B sounds you hear on records.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭flameboy87


    Wel thanks for the advise, i'm going to get an Ibanez bass, which is no means top end but it is my first 5 string. I am no expert when it comes to knowledge of 5 string basses but i'm sure this is a more than adequate start to my 5 string collection. From what i have read/heard (reviews/youtube and from the replies on this forum) Ibanez make some great 5 strings and in fact most go to say that the low B is quite crisp and clear which is what i'm looking for. Maybe its a gamble but its all about gambles when buying music gear in this country. Not one place in Ireland to try such a bass (that i know of anyway) or anything other than the standards but i feel confident that i'll be more than happy with my purchase. Going to order soon but waiting for the last of the funds to come rolling in :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,077 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    In my experience of cheap and mid-range 5-strings, I have found the low B to be pretty unusable, unless an unfocused mush is the desired result.

    I would imagine you would have to probably move into the top end of the market before you start getting those tight low B sounds you hear on records.
    I think a decent amp helps enormously with that. None of my basses could be classes as top-end but I find them perfectly capable of dialing in any tone I want. With a good quality amp the clarity of notes from the low B will be much better. I don't think it's as simple as saying "You must spend €1,500 or more before you'll get useful, non-mushy tone."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭flameboy87


    I agree with Malice on this one, most basses will sound crap, no matter the cost if the amp just isn't right. Its the same the other way around however, the amp can sound crap with a poor bass but its not about the money you spend on either. I picked my amp for (as far as I can remember) about €500 or so but being honest, it really kicks the ass off some bass amps twice and three times its value who are living off a name. This is definitly the case with basses too. Some basses are not the quality they should be for the price you pay. I have seen this with Gibson SG's and an Ibanez Gem. The simple matter is that money doesnt buy the perfect guitar, simply playing as many as you can before buying is the only way....simply not possible here however. Sorry for my ramble......its early!!!!!!!!! :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    I have seen the "Which is most important, bass or amp/cab ?" discussion many times. I am inclined to go with the logic that if the source sound, i.e. that produced by the bass itself, is not up to scratch, then it wont be much better when this sound is amplified. The amp only amplifies the signal it gets from the bass. I know this is a generalisation, but I still think the point is valid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭flameboy87


    Wel i don't think its a case of which is more important, they are as important as each other.

    Good Amp + Good Bass = Good Sound

    If either of these are less than good your overall sound is going to suffer :) wel thats how I see it anyway :)


    http://www.tcelectronic.com/bg500.asp
    This is the amp i'm using and with the Ibanez I'm looking to get (FINGERS CROSSED) i'll have he bass sound and set up perfect for gigging and easy set up with killer tone :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    flameboy87 wrote: »
    Wel i don't think its a case of which is more important, they are as important as each other.

    Good Amp + Good Bass = Good Sound

    I agree. However, I'd still lean more towards having a good solid sound source first. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,077 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    Rigsby wrote: »
    I have seen the "Which is most important, bass or amp/cab ?" discussion many times. I am inclined to go with the logic that if the source sound, i.e. that produced by the bass itself, is not up to scratch, then it wont be much better when this sound is amplified. The amp only amplifies the signal it gets from the bass. I know this is a generalisation, but I still think the point is valid.
    I agree to an extent because I would definitely recommend having a good guitar in your hands but it would be a good idea to try and keep both guitar and amp in sync. Playing a crap guitar through a good amp will produce a crap sound. Playing a good guitar through a crap amp will also produce a crap sound. The trick is to find a good amp or guitar at a suitable price point. Obviously the definitions of "good" and "crap" are subjective but hopefully you know what I mean ;).

    I only got around to upgrading my bass amp last year after nearly fifteen years of using a well beat-up, third-hand 80 watt combo amp. Playing either of my basses equipped with a low B produced the correct sound but the tone just wasn't right. The sound was slightly distorted even at low volumes and degenerated totally into yuck territory even at medium volumes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    Malice wrote: »
    I agree to an extent because I would definitely recommend having a good guitar in your hands but it would be a good idea to try and keep both guitar and amp in sync. Playing a crap guitar through a good amp will produce a crap sound. Playing a good guitar through a crap amp will also produce a crap sound. The trick is to find a good amp or guitar at a suitable price point. Obviously the definitions of "good" and "crap" are subjective but hopefully you know what I mean ;).

    I only got around to upgrading my bass amp last year after nearly fifteen years of using a well beat-up, third-hand 80 watt combo amp. Playing either of my basses equipped with a low B produced the correct sound but the tone just wasn't right. The sound was slightly distorted even at low volumes and degenerated totally into yuck territory even at medium volumes.

    I only have experience with four string basses, so possibly the amp, or more importantly the cab, in the case of the low B, could make a difference. IMO playing a good guitar through a crap amp, can produce a reasonably good sound, but not the other way around, as the source sound is most likely inferior to begin with.


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