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What do you want from next years SU?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭ldxo15wus6fpgm


    carlowboy wrote: »
    Meg had a 24 hour library as her main point on her manifesto. Did she get this done? Not even close. That's my point.

    So because one person failed it's impossible?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Only way things like this will be achieved is via sit ins etc imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭ldxo15wus6fpgm


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Only way things like this will be achieved is via sit ins etc imo.

    Shup you :p you should start going to lectures before you go talking about the library!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Shup you :p you should start going to lectures before you go talking about the library!!
    Haha, was well too hungover to go in today!


    Maybe if a candidate runs as a single issue candidate it would have a chance?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭ldxo15wus6fpgm


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Haha, was well too hungover to go in today!
    Maybe if a candidate runs as a single issue candidate it would have a chance?

    Should have seen c*****, showed up to EU and hadn't a clue what happened! Haha.
    Hmm don't reckon a single issue would get into office tbh. Possibly if someone ran with a sort of single focus area, e.g. academics.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭carlowboy


    So because one person failed it's impossible?

    You're shifting the goal posts. I cited the example that she had last year, and yes it was impossible, the library staff insisted it wasn't happening ffs. Yet she still campaigned on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭ldxo15wus6fpgm


    carlowboy wrote: »
    You're shifting the goal posts. I cited the example that she had last year, and yes it was impossible, the library staff insisted it wasn't happening ffs. Yet she still campaigned on it.

    There's a very simple way around the current staff not wanting to work nights... as I said earlier, hire 2/3 people working on and off night shifts, they could have 2 people in each night, very simple, I'm sure it would be very easy to find people.
    Who was she talking to about getting it done?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 717 ✭✭✭Noodleworm


    I still think there is more pressing matters than the library but i'm interested why so many people want it.
    At closing time their are so few people their it doesn't seem to make much sense to keep a whole building running all night. Think electricity costs too, it would double them.
    What do people need at the library at night they can't get elsewhere?
    Would a quiet study room somewhere fulfill the needs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭ldxo15wus6fpgm


    Noodleworm wrote: »
    I still think there is more pressing matters than the library but i'm interested why so many people want it.
    At closing time their are so few people their it doesn't seem to make much sense to keep a whole building running all night. Think electricity costs too, it would double them.
    What do people need at the library at night they can't get elsewhere?
    Would a quiet study room somewhere fulfill the needs?

    As do I, but it would still be helpful.

    I've generally had the opposite experience, loads of people filing out at closing time, have seen security having to go around 4 or 5 times to get people to leave (including me :p ).

    It wouldn't double the electricity bill, there's a night rate which is far cheaper, and it would only be open an extra 10 hours or so. I thought most of the computers are left on overnight as well, I could be wrong though.

    Books, journals, printers, scanners, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭carlowboy


    Noodleworm wrote: »
    I still think there is more pressing matters than the library but i'm interested why so many people want it.
    At closing time their are so few people their it doesn't seem to make much sense to keep a whole building running all night. Think electricity costs too, it would double them.
    What do people need at the library at night they can't get elsewhere?
    Would a quiet study room somewhere fulfill the needs?

    I was citing it as an example of what I don't want from a candidate. Promising something and not getting it done.

    The fact that it's the library is trivial


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭niamhzie


    I wouldn't be looking for an all-night library, but if it opened even 30 minutes earlier, that would be great :) couldn't count the number of mornings that I arrive in off the bus at about 8.10ish, and it's not worth waiting for the library to open when I've got a 9.00 waaaay down in the Grattan :/
    Is an 8.00am opening too much?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭mehfesto


    Out of curiosity, what were Meg's other goals and what has she achieved this year?

    I remember outside DCUfm there was a load of posters with different aims on them One suggested she would rectify the parking problem in DCU. That didn't happen at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭Grudaire


    mehfesto wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, what were Meg's other goals and what has she achieved this year?

    Should we not be concentrating on the people that are going for re-election for failed promises?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭rallye150flyer


    i would want free student parking in the multi story,or more space for students to park like the overflow being open all the time

    the canteen sorted out the prices are a joke they even charge for hot water !

    some facilities in the canteen to heat your own lunch eg microwave or something

    and a quite study room besides in the library which is too far away from everything when you finish a class early and want to do a bit of reading for 20-30 mins there is no point walking down the library again you walk down and back it does hardly be worth going

    alot of these things are achievable and would benefit us all !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,347 ✭✭✭Kavrocks


    and a quite study room besides in the library which is too far away from everything
    Its not for people in the nurses or science building.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 Deckof52


    We'll Canteen is expensive and that needs to be looked at for sure.

    I think a few things will improve the college...

    #1 Library opening earlier
    • I don't think it needs to open later because ten o clock is late enough. The majority of people who attend dcu would either go home or have to leave because of bus times and public travel times. The only students who could avail of it are students on campus.
    • And I might be wrong but one of the main purposes of a Library is the ability it gives to rent books and read at home.
    • If you have an earlier start students might come in earlier to study ahead of classes. When you think about it the average secondary school opens their doors between 7-7:30. The restaurant, gym and library dont open till 8:30.
    #2 Cheaper Food
    • I think there's a lot of slating of the SU on this thread but I think we've got to remember that any political job the majority of the work is never seen. So if something in the end doesn't go ahead that doesn't mean that meetings and discussions and the idea about it wasn't pushed at a university level.
    • The Spar and Nubar might have expensive food but 10% of their profits go back into Union funds. There is always a push to have lower prices but I think people need to address what are their needs rather than their wants actually are, i.e. Do they want cheaper food? Do they want a free area/canteen to sit and eat their own food? ; Do they want outside companies to come in and sell food? or Do they want a facility set up for the union to subsidize traveling outside to get food off campus? If people have a problem with were their SU money is going its a matter of getting involved in the Union because its the Class Reps that approve the Budget and where the money goes towards.
    • The SU have recently achieved being able to set up microwaves, kettles and toasters in the Mezz. This might be hard to view as an achievement but people have got to remember the insurance costs, the running costs, the administrative costs (Yes, with most of these things they're needs to be supervision. :/ ) .
    • The mention of Trinity and other colleges having easy access to shops and fast food outlets. Well hopefully with the introduction of the metro north in maybe 5 years students will be able to take a trip into town that will only take 10 minutes or so.
    #3 Better Rag Ball/Events
    • Like all things in life that involve business the better a thing is the more it costs. If people have a problem with the quality of the events in dcu then they've either got to accept that in a bid to not spend a lot of student money on events that the quality will be lower or you can mandate your class rep to spend more money on a better event.
    • It also takes more involvement and consultation of students. This year the Rubberbandits were very popular in all colleges and so all colleges signed them for their Rag Ball. But if students demand or want an act they've got to show up...I don't think 500 people showed up to the Bandits. This is where a Union will make loses and where students miss out because of apathy.

    #4 Campus Residency
    • I do think the costs are way too high to live on campus and feel the full benefits of the University. €4000 for essentially 8 months in a dorm room is ridiculous. I honestly don't know what can be done about this at the moment with so many areas to look into, i.e Who pays for the upkeep? Was student money invested? Does any SU representative sit on any committee relevant? But the issue needs to be looked at!
    #5 Communication & Interaction
    • Ive found that one of the main problems in DCU is the 80% student apathy rate and the fact that students don't get involved enough in their Students Union. Essentially 20% of students control all the power of the Union and I don't see this as healthy. It is mainly those that get involved in SU politics and Clubs & Societies that are those 20%. Its true that if you don't show up you wont be heard...
    • The ability of the an SU to communicate is vital to student engagement. We need a more active system that engages students. Perhaps every semester two weeks be dedicated to getting students involved on SU issues alone and informing them on the power they hold to control their Union.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 isoSaf


    How do people feel about two of the former sabbats getting re elected? Does this happen a lot?

    I was shocked to find out that their salaries are 30,000 a year, last time I had a look at grad salaries it was in the region of 21-23K, less for professional traineeships(ACCA / ACA etc)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 Killer_Cheese


    isoSaf wrote: »
    How do people feel about two of the former sabbats getting re elected? Does this happen a lot?

    I was shocked to find out that their salaries are 30,000 a year, last time I had a look at grad salaries it was in the region of 21-23K, less for professional traineeships(ACCA / ACA etc)

    Salaries are not 30k they are 22,500!

    And its not the first time that a sabbatical has been re-elected here in DCU but its quite common across the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 isoSaf


    From the college view - "He said that if reelected he will take a 5% pay cut and put it towards the DCU hardship fund. This would amount to €1,500."

    Thats 30,000...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 Killer_Cheese


    isoSaf wrote: »
    From the college view - "He said that if reelected he will take a 5% pay cut and put it towards the DCU hardship fund. This would amount to €1,500."

    Thats 30,000...

    I wouldn't believe everything you read!

    Sabbatical Officers in DCUSU earn 22,464 per annum.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 isoSaf


    Ahhh, the College Spew strikes again. Thanks for clarifying.


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