Socialist Workers Party Hijacking Unrelated Protests

Blisterman · 28-03-2011 08:42PM #1

Has anyone ever noticed that these guys are at every protest? Anti war protests, environmental protests, political protests etc, waving their placards with their well articulated arguments.:rolleyes:

Even at the St. Patrick's Day parade in Leicester, there were a few of them going around handing out fliers to people watching the parade.

It's ridiculous. Can't they organise their own demonstrations? Why do they insist on hijacking other people's protests? All they do is dilute and confuse people as to the real meaning of the protest.

wonderfulname · 28-03-2011 08:43PM

Of course they can't organise their own, nobody would show.

old hippy · 28-03-2011 08:45PM

Blisterman wrote: »

Has anyone ever noticed that these guys are at every protest? Anti war protests, environmental protests, political protests etc, waving their placards with their well articulated arguments.:rolleyes:

Even at the St. Patrick's Day parade in Leicester, there were a few of them going around handing out fliers to people watching the parade.

It's ridiculous. Can't they organise their own demonstrations? Why do they insist on hijacking other people's protests? All they do is dilute and confuse people as to the real meaning of the protest.

They are an extreme minority; and much maligned. Smashing stuff up wearing balaclavas and spraying anarchy signs is not a revolution. It's laughable.

Sergeant · 28-03-2011 08:49PM

wonderfulname wrote: »

Of course they can't organise their own, nobody would show.

Between writing the blog, posting eye-witness reports on Indymedia, standing outside the GPO and handing out leaflets, and designing posters telling us about "The Crisis in Capitalism" -- it doesn't leave much time to organise the revolution. It's very difficult be a middle-class socialist in Ireland.

Quiet you · 28-03-2011 08:53PM

They post that baseless crap on indymedia too? I knew they were a bunch of twats but I didn't think even they'd stoop so low.

mikemac · 28-03-2011 08:56PM

Not to derail your thread OP but I've not heard about Residents Against Racism either in the last while

There was a time when they were constantly on the news
I've forgotten the name of the lady who seemed to be the main organizer. Been googling for a few minutes and still can't find it.
She was well able to talk anyway, where have RAR gone? They were constantly at protests

RichieC · 28-03-2011 08:58PM

How dare they! the cheek. :mad:

hmmm · 28-03-2011 08:58PM

What would happen if we organised a protest against the SWP. A rip in the space time continuum?

Standman · 28-03-2011 09:06PM

Ah sure they've got revolution on the brain. You can be sure wherever theres a bit of trouble being caused in a protest you'll see the red flags and raised fist symbols of these eejits dotted amongst the crowd.

mikemac · 28-03-2011 09:09PM

Sure they must protest with bourgeois capitalist pigs still controlling the nation.

How did such a dour, miserable person as Clare Daly get elected?
A prize for the poster who can find a photo of Clare Daly smiling.
Herself and Joe Higgins suit each other.

Must be a crime to look happy and smile

Standman · 28-03-2011 09:14PM

feelingstressed wrote: »

Sure they must protest with bourgeois capitalist pigs still controlling the nation.

How did such a dour, miserable person as Clare Daly get elected?
A prize for the poster who can find a photo of Clare Daly smiling.
Herself and Joe Higgins suit each other.

Must be a crime to look happy and smile

Shlap

I'll pm you my address for the prize I will be expecting

PeterIanStaker · 28-03-2011 09:18PM

Standman wrote: »

Shlap

Is that the best she can do? Looks like the Joker after a night on the piss.

PeterIanStaker · 28-03-2011 09:29PM

feelingstressed wrote: »

Must be a crime to look happy and smile

smiling will be outlawed in the Workers Paradise once the SWP sieze power.

PeterIanStaker · 28-03-2011 09:32PM

Sergeant wrote: »

Between writing the blog, posting eye-witness reports on Indymedia, standing outside the GPO and handing out leaflets, and designing posters telling us about "The Crisis in Capitalism" -- it doesn't leave much time to organise the revolution. It's very difficult be a middle-class socialist in Ireland.

You forgot they also have to somehow find the time to buy the Michael Moore boxset in HMV!

super_furry · 28-03-2011 09:37PM

Anyone seen the current posters they have up in Dublin? Calling for a meeting on a 'Nuclear Meltodown of Capitalism', with a picture of a mushroom cloud in the background. They're obviously trying to capitalise on what's going on in Japan at the moment.

old hippy · 28-03-2011 09:37PM

See; there's genuine concerns here & reasons to get angry but the militants eejits ruined it all and turned it into Telegraph worrying bolloccs.

hmmm · 28-03-2011 09:40PM

If the Government didn't have the SWP they'd have to invent it. Their presence in a protest march automatically means that the population ignores it. They are the perfect tool for having a "sensible protest march protesting against unjust action" turned into "militant loons attack our loving and caring government".

My name is URL · 28-03-2011 09:41PM

People need to start protesting against the hijacking of protests, obviously.

PeterIanStaker · 28-03-2011 09:43PM

My name is URL wrote: »

People need to start protesting against the hijacking of protests, obviously.

and then there would be protests over the protest being hijacked by people who hijacked the first protest . . . .

biko · 28-03-2011 09:44PM

Wait, you're giving out about an English party at English protests in England?

super_furry · 28-03-2011 09:46PM

biko wrote: »

Wait, you're giving out about an English party at English protests in England?

The SWP are very much over here and are, on general, organising at least one protest a week here.

Sergeant · 28-03-2011 09:46PM

biko wrote: »

Wait, you're giving out about an English party at English protests in England?

The plight of the worker and the fight against the bourgeoisie is a worldwide issue Comrade.

Mike 1972 · 28-03-2011 09:47PM

feelingstressed wrote: »

How did such a dour, miserable person as Clare Daly get elected?

Because people voted for her ?

BTW Clare Daly is not a member of the SWP. Nor are the SWP anarchists. People really need to read up a bit more on Judean factions.

wonderfulname · 28-03-2011 09:55PM

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

and then there would be protests over the protest being hijacked by people who hijacked the first protest . . . .

Or the protest against hijacked protests would be hijacked to protest what little protesting we as a nation protest.

Protest.

biko · 28-03-2011 09:56PM

super_furry wrote: »

The SWP are very much over here and are, on general, organising at least one protest a week here.

The OP pic and ref to Leicester made me think he was referring only to protests in UK.
Btw, I've never seen SWP protest in Galway, maybe they more active in the east?

squod · 28-03-2011 10:01PM

biko wrote: »

The OP pic and ref to Leicester made me think he was referring only to protests in UK.
Btw, I've never seen SWP protest in Galway, maybe they more active in the east?

Never seen them here either.

mikemac · 28-03-2011 10:02PM

biko wrote: »

Btw, I've never seen SWP protest in Galway, maybe they more active in the east?

Ye have the GAAW.
Used to see them out at the Salthill Airshow
I've moved out of Galway a few years now but I was there in 2003 or was that 2004, the year it was pouring rain. It was so incredibly organized it was a credit to everyone involved. As one plane exited south to Black Head another entered from the West from Galway Airport. It was superb!

Never saw them with the Russian Navy passed close by the west coast of Ireland though

No, they only follow fashionable causes and that's hating the USA and Israel.

Pride Fighter · 28-03-2011 10:18PM

To clear up the confusion the SWP changed their name to the People Before Profit Alliance here in Ireland. This was because they couldn't win an election even if they were the only candidates in the field under the SWP banner. In turn the people before profit then allied to the Socialist Party under the headline of the United Left Alliance. The SWP and SP are both Trotskyist 4th international parties, but the left has splits here there and everywhere, and as a result hate each other even though they are ideologically similar, the disagreements are a result of ideological impurity and personality clashes.

Hope that was of help.

PS I'm not in any of the above mentioned parties but have several friends in all the above mentioned parties.

panda100 · 28-03-2011 10:29PM

feelingstressed wrote: »

Not to derail your thread OP but I've not heard about Residents Against Racism either in the last while

There was a time when they were constantly on the news
I've forgotten the name of the lady who seemed to be the main organizer. Been googling for a few minutes and still can't find it.
She was well able to talk anyway, where have RAR gone? They were constantly at protests

Rosanna Flynn is who your talking about and Residents against racism is still an active campaigning group.

the groutch · 28-03-2011 11:18PM

feelingstressed wrote: »

Must be a crime to look happy and smile

and happy, smiling TDs have been good for the country?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUX745WRIXI/TTN9dJbbwTI/AAAAAAAACBU/pZjfK5hgIuo/s1600/BrianCowen03.jpg

prinz · 28-03-2011 11:21PM

biko wrote: »

The OP pic and ref to Leicester made me think he was referring only to protests in UK.
Btw, I've never seen SWP protest in Galway, maybe they more active in the east?

squod wrote: »

Never seen them here either.

They're worse than Bertie Ahern turning up at the opening of an envelope. Any type of march or protest, particularly in Dublin, and there they'll be, invariably with scarf-covered faces and hoods up, red flags with the yellow fist. There's a smattering of other groups who stick to a similar role. Usually they will arrive with loudspeakers to shout down/over whoever was speaking/leading the protest, and generally they will try to raise tensions with AGS too. The last major march that went down to the GPO in Dublin was a continuation of this policy where a handful of SWP-heads started drowning out the speeches with their own brand of nonsense, then as the crowd dispersed started trying to deliberately start a confrontation with the gardaí who had enjoyed a positive relationship with the crowd where I was on O'Connell Street. Cluster of them in the middle below..

http://lostchildreninthewilderness.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/f-2-ictu-anti-austerity-plan-protest-march-assembling-at-christchurch-dublin.jpg

SWP group break away from proper march and try to rush the Dáil gates

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqNOQemn11o&feature=related

Which of course gets all marches a reputation and decent people stay away and refuse to associate themselves with these nutters. Trouble makers.

Socialist Workers Party Hijacking Unrelated Protests

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