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Its official : public sector pay per hour is 49% higher than private sector
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In London and other big uk cities they used to say that when you drunk a glass of water, it had been drunken eight times before
. With so much water falling in Ireland over such a wide, green area for a much smaller population, you would think that if anyone needed the filtration, it would be those across the water.
Anyway, tap water should be safe enough to drink, it does not say much for the government if its not. At least in this country private houses do not pay water rates, or property tax. Thats a huge saving compared to the UK, in fairness.
Yes it is usually safe to drink, assuming you dont mind drinking brown water. But it is also very hard in many areas and does massive damage to pipes and appliances unless the home owner installs a treatment system. Perhaps you should look into this topic before you comment any further on it as you seem to have little knowledge of how much it costs to get proper water in the country. I'd welcome water charges if it meant I didn't have to have a water treatment plant in my kitchen, as would many people living in hard water areas.Count Dooku wrote: »Finland with similar prices, but much lower wages for public servants will be more appropriate
The average wage in Ireland isn't comparable to other countries because the structure of the Irish public sector is wrong. It is too bloated in the middle to allow for a proper comparison on this basis. This is the first thing which should be addressed.
If you wish to look at comparing individual wages you need to take into account the number of deductions public sector workers pay. PAYE, PRSI, USC, Pension Levy, mandatory pension deductions. There are also other things to look at such as benefits. In Ireland you have to pay for proper medical care. Finland has a superb public healthcare system and private healthcare is rare.0 -
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As you can see its considerably cheaper for petrol / diesel on this side of the border. If misguided public servants like you think otherwise, what else do you get wrong ? Please fill up this side of the border any more. Not only will you keep money circulating in this economy, but the considerable tax involved will go towards paying your own wages, and the rest of us in the public service. And you will save yourself up to a tenner on a tank.
why would he fill up this side of the border when its cheaper in NI?you should really read other peoples post before replying as it looks like you live in your student bubble
he is saving 9c per litre, so depending on the size of the tank on site he is making a hefty saving 0 -
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Sorry to have to correct you yet again, but even an auld dog who lives along the border would know which side of the border , petrol and diesel is cheapest on, by observing which side of the border people fill up on.
Many's the cute oul hound living along the border knows rightly that the red diesel is the cheapest of all. 0 -
Diesel and petrol is and has been for many years cheaper on the southern side of the border, as everyone living close to the border knows. I showed you the AA survey link to prove my point.you should really read other peoples post before replying as it looks like you live in your student bubble
I am not a student and do not live in a bubble , and I do read others posts. He is obviously telling lies and I proved his "Up north 2 months ago, €1.429 per liter for petrol here £1.199 there" statement to be incorrect.
Again I plead to you to please fill up this side of the border any more. As said before not only will you keep money circulating in this economy, but the considerable tax involved will go towards paying your own wages, and the rest of us in the public service. And you will save yourself up to a tenner on a tank.0 -
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No way is he in the public sector. He posts 24/7I'd guess failed business man..
. everyone knows public sector uses websense and other filters so they can't be on the internet all day long. The way he cries and whinges about estate agents and buying apartments to provide for a pension he's obviously lost daddy's money in the property market and is now looking for someone to blame.
Its obvious he's a WUM. Why hasn't he been banned?
I suppose he would just post the same crap as one of his alter egos. Some of it is very funny though.:D he's either really really intellectually challenged or a comedy genius.:)0 -
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a couple of cent? Feck all difference. It still costs me 3 times as much to tax my car here. It costs more...much more to buy a car here and it costs more to insure here.There is a cent or two difference in petrol prices but it still don't make motoring cheaper here. End of story. Argument won!I am not your sonny and would ask you to be more polite on boards.ie.
using the link you supply, average newry diesel price is 141.40 stg i.e € 1.66
http://www.petrolprices.com/search.html?search=newry
The gap may be narrowing a bit, but thats still considerably dearer than here.:D 0 -
Again I plead to the public service people who wrote and who thought it was cheaper to fill up in the north, to please fill up this side of the border any more. As said before not only will you keep money circulating in this economy, but the considerable tax involved will go towards paying your own wages, and the rest of us in the public service. And you will save yourself up to a tenner on a tank.:D:D 0
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erictheviking1 wrote: »a couple of cent?
no , up to 20 cent
http://www.aaireland.ie/AA/Motoring-advice/Petrol-Prices.aspx
and that adds up on a tank;)erictheviking1 wrote: »Feck all difference.
maybe if you earn the average p.s. wage of 47k a year you can afford to pay the extra for fuel in the North, but I do not.erictheviking1 wrote: »It still costs me 3 times as much to tax my car here.
others pay 104 or 156 a year to tax their cars here, so its not always dearer than the north
and no wonder when the tax involved goes toward paying our public servants almost double what they get in the UK.erictheviking1 wrote: »It costs more...much more to buy a car here
I never said motoring was cheaper here, only petrol + diesel.erictheviking1 wrote: »There is a cent or two difference in petrol prices but it still don't make motoring cheaper here.
But at least we do not have to pay that property tax, water rates etc they do in the UK.;)0 -
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no , up to 20 cent
http://www.aaireland.ie/AA/Motoring-advice/Petrol-Prices.aspx
and that adds up on a tank;)
That link shows petrol prices from february. Its a lot more expensive now. I bet prices have gone up more here than up North
If your trying to show that prices vary,price varies down here too. They go up to 1.59 Euro here
http://www.pumps.ie/viewNationalStatistics.phpmaybe if you earn the average p.s. wage of 47k a year you can afford to pay the extra for fuel in the North, but I do not.:D Pathetic!
1. Where did I say I go north for petrol??
2.Where did I say I earn 47k.
I'm sorry to hear you don't earn 47k a year. I bet the majority of the public sector don't either. Maybe getting a job would help?;):rolleyes:
A very small minority are paying 156 euro.An even smaller minority are paying 104 euro. Lets go by average as you like averages.:rolleyes:others pay 104 or 156 a year to tax their cars here, so its not always dearer than the north
Again...Pathetic!:D.and no wonder when the tax involved goes toward paying our public servants almost double what they get in the UK.
Friends and family in the UK pay council/property tax which covers bin charges, maintenence of parks etc. I personally pay about 600 in bin charges. Would property tax here incorporate bin charges? Probably not, so again it would be a rip-off!I never said motoring was cheaper here, only petrol + diesel.
But at least we do not have to pay that property tax, water rates etc they do in the UK.;)
My UK family and friends all pay a few quid/week for water and don't mind.The water quality is crap where I live but if it improves I would have no problem paying something for water. When they come here to visit they can't believe the price of a pint, eating out,food, cigarettes, you name it it is all dearer. End of! I say again...argument won. End of!:cool:0 -
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no , up to 20 cent
http://www.aaireland.ie/AA/Motoring-advice/Petrol-Prices.aspx
and that adds up on a tank;)
maybe if you earn the average p.s. wage of 47k a year you can afford to pay the extra for fuel in the North, but I do not.
others pay 104 or 156 a year to tax their cars here, so its not always dearer than the north
and no wonder when the tax involved goes toward paying our public servants almost double what they get in the UK.
I never said motoring was cheaper here, only petrol + diesel.
But at least we do not have to pay that property tax, water rates etc they do in the UK.;)
Can we just clarify that VRT came into existence long before we had the problem of the public sector pay bill, so to use it in this argument makes no sense. If the wage bill were no longer the problem, VRT aint going anywhere0 -
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erictheviking1 wrote: »Just to explain to latecomers we have been sidetracked by gigino's claim that the cost of living in Ireland is now cheaper than the cost of living in the UK.:D:D
Thanks, I got completely lost there....
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