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dragons den season 3

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Bigcheeze


    Groom! wrote: »
    Just tried Growrings site but it's crashed again.

    I think the idea of the treasured memory boxes is good but surely to God she could get them made in Ireland.

    The memory box thing was awful in its execution. It looked like something you'd buy from an undertaker to remember a child who died. I couldn't get comfortable with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 994 ✭✭✭Birdsong


    Thought the Grow Ring was very similar to what the Quick crop guys had on the farming entrapenuer programme about 18months ago, Quick crop was better as far as i remember.

    The memory box was awful, too big and too expensive also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    as one of the dragons pointed out it was a bit morbit
    it looked like a small coffin


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    Memory Box: I'm not superstitious, but would a lot of women not feel that getting one of those memory boxes was tempting fate, or just bad karma.. The problem with this product is that it looks like something you would either have for a) somebody who was dead or b) burying in the ground (like a time capsule).. Personally, I think it IS morbid.. Given that it is for somebody who is actually still alive, it should be much brighter, not in the guise of something that you would bury in the ground, and having a name that doesnt have the word "memory" in it (as there is a direct association with memorial cards / death etc etc)...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    Memory Box: I'm not superstitious, but would a lot of women not feel that getting one of those memory boxes was tempting fate, or just bad karma.. The problem with this product is that it looks like something you would either have for a) somebody who was dead or b) burying in the ground (like a time capsule).. Personally, I think it IS morbid.. Given that it is for somebody who is actually still alive, it should be much brighter, not in the guise of something that you would bury in the ground, and having a name that doesnt have the word "memory" in it (as there is a direct association with memorial cards / death etc etc)...


    talk about putting somebody into an early grave :eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 Feileacain


    If you don't mind me saying from a bereaved parent's point of view, we would have given anything to be given a memory box when we lost our daughter's. We eventually got a suitable one that we liked from England. It's a place where we keep all our keepsake's as they form part of our memories with them before we buried them. So good on them for trying to do this here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Bigcheeze


    Feileacain wrote: »
    If you don't mind me saying from a bereaved parent's point of view, we would have given anything to be given a memory box when we lost our daughter's. We eventually got a suitable one that we liked from England. It's a place where we keep all our keepsake's as they form part of our memories with them before we buried them. So good on them for trying to do this here.

    The problem with their idea is that they weren't trying to make a box for a child who had died but that's what it looked like.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    Thought that Gavin Duffy was childish and disrespectful to the guy with the remote control voice activation stuff..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,668 ✭✭✭nlgbbbblth


    true, but the guy came across as a total spoofer.

    Norah Casey = amazing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    nlgbbbblth wrote: »
    Norah Casey = amazing.

    I wouldnt go that far, but she adds far more to the show than Sarah Newman..

    didnt like the smug
    "ooooh, how would that look on Shrewsbury Road,.... "*guffaw, guffaw, guffaw*

    uncalled for.. they seem to have got more arrogant and aloof despite of the recession.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 994 ✭✭✭Birdsong


    Love Norah too, she offers some good advice to people & when going out is always nice about it, not like Sarah Newman who was just rude


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 817 ✭✭✭Mr Magners


    I wouldnt go that far, but she adds far more to the show than Sarah Newman..

    didnt like the smug
    "ooooh, how would that look on Shrewsbury Road,.... "*guffaw, guffaw, guffaw*

    uncalled for.. they seem to have got more arrogant and aloof despite of the recession.

    I have to agree with you here.

    All of the dragons seem to have gotten carried away with their own importance and there are a lot more snide and mocking comments being used. I have to say Gavin Duffy, particularly has become extremely nasty and I thought the way he dealt with the voice activitation idea was very offensive. Even if there was a certain amount of spoof in the presentation it was so unprofessional the way he declared himself "out".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,358 ✭✭✭crisco10


    Mr Magners wrote: »
    I have to agree with you here.

    All of the dragons seem to have gotten carried away with their own importance and there are a lot more snide and mocking comments being used. I have to say Gavin Duffy, particularly has become extremely nasty and I thought the way he dealt with the voice activitation idea was very offensive. Even if there was a certain amount of spoof in the presentation it was so unprofessional the way he declared himself "out".

    Hadn't seen any of this series but thought the Dragons came across awfully last night with the voice activation thingy...Arrogant, mean and childish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭STIG83


    Norah is alot better than Sarah Im Out Newman.
    They guy with the frost protector for the stopcock was crazy to turn down Gavin's offer, why didnt he try and haggle to 30%?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    first two offers are failures No matter who invested


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    Well Jim, I think what is edited for the final show is a VERY subjective view of each of the inventions.. I dont think it's fair that for some of these people, who have invested a lot of time and money in their work, that the one thing that will be remembered of their appearance is some smart-arse quip by one of the dragons ... Gavin Duffy and Sean Gallagher seem to have spent more time preparing one-liners than actually going through the people's business plans...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    fair play to terry with who has it site i know terry myself yeah they seem to like one liners as an exit but they all know this on entering what the attitude is and can be i would of went on myself but choose not to and doing ok maybe next year when i finalise my new idea one thing i will not take is snide remarks we all started from scratch and the dragons can forget that at times that idea for bins was good and bobby was a bit greedy your man was right to decline


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 817 ✭✭✭Mr Magners


    jimmynokia wrote: »
    Fair play to Terry who has it right. I know Terry myself. Yeah, they seem to like one liners as an exit but they all know this on entering what the attitude is and can be.

    I would have gone on myself but choose not to and I'm doing ok. Maybe next year, when i finalise my new idea. One thing I will not take is snide remarks. We all started from scratch and the dragons can forget that at times. That idea for bins was good and Bobby was a bit greedy.

    Your man was right to decline.

    FYP to make it more readable.

    I agree with you about Bobby, he really pushed it to try and take half the business from Terry, it was a bit much if you ask me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    LOL was posting from my mobile there thanks:D


  • Posts: 19,205 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Gavin Duffy so wants to pork the new woman on the show Norah Casey!


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  • Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    glasso wrote: »
    Gavin Duffy so wants to pork the new woman on the show Norah Casey!


    Ah sh*t thanks now I've that image in my head :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,084 ✭✭✭Shelflife


    I have to agree with previous posters with regard to the petty and snide comments that the dragons are coming up with.

    by and large these are novice entrepreneurs who are looking for guidance as much as money, they are probably nervous enough just doing the presentation without throwing in the cameras.

    The smart comments are childish and unprofessional and they really should know better, as a viewer its offputting to say the least.


  • Posts: 19,205 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    it's tv - they are probably encouraged to make comments like that and what you see on tv is edited in any case - the actual interviews last a lot longer in reality and the producers / editors cut this to produce the tv bit...


  • Posts: 19,205 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Gavin Duffy on the scissors gizmo offer - needs control as yer man would be a nightmare to deal with!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,617 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Pfff getting sick of Gavin and his stupidly high equity demands, his stupidly high 51% offers.

    He was my favorite Dragon previously, but now he just comes off as almost a bully of an investor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    I hate the way these people come to this Irish nationally broadcasted show and say "I'm having them made in China for 5 cents each"...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    He was my favorite Dragon previously, but now he just comes off as almost a bully of an investor.

    I disagree.. I think his only option was to take control of it if anything was going to happen with the product.. This guy invents as his "hobby" as he said himself, so I'm sure he's not gonna be able to sell it himself.. I dont think it's a great idea anyway..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,617 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    I disagree.. I think his only option was to take control of it if anything was going to happen with the product.. This guy invents as his "hobby" as he said himself, so I'm sure he's not gonna be able to sell it himself.. I dont think it's a great idea anyway..

    That guy I agree with but he was the same last week with someone else. He can take control and push the product to the high heavens without making the inventor a minority shareholder. It's not like not having 51% means that he's hugely restricted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    your man should of let him take control he looks like he is near retirement and he could of let gavin make him the money, sit back and relax for Mr scissors


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  • Posts: 19,205 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jimmynokia wrote: »
    your man should of let him take control he looks like he is near retirement and he could of let gavin make him the money, sit back and relax for Mr scissors

    he also was way off on the real market potential that GD saw and seemed very headstrong so getting control was the only way to do it IMO


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