[CoD Black Ops] - MegaBitch thread

Nuri Sahin · 11-03-2011 10:35AM

almanu wrote: »

Team mates stunning me in CTF when ive just got the flag , always seem to be german or french for some reason , also people moaning about laststand ,ak74u , and certain perks , get over yourselves its only a bloody game:mad:

Last line bugs the crap out of me tbh

But I'll just ignore that.

I'm fairly sure I could trawl through your previous posts almanu and find some comments in this thread with you bitching about all sorts

As for reviving Second Chance users, while I have revived one person(think it was a boardsie going for all pro perks). Tbh I rather have my stats, guns, emblems, prestiges and such wiped out as well tbh than do it again. It'll be a cold day in hell before I buy and use Second Chance. It's the same with RC Cars too. Besides helping others with getting hardline pro, I've never bought it and never will. I can just about get my head around to helping a mate get his pro perks but that's pushing it truth be told.

Dues Bellator · 11-03-2011 11:02AM

El LoCo Ade wrote: »

Last line bugs the crap out of me tbh But I'll just ignore that.

I'm fairly sure I could trawl through your previous posts almanu and find some comments in this thread with you bitching about all sorts

As for reviving Second Chance users, while I have revived one person(think it was a boardsie going for all pro perks). Tbh I rather have my stats, guns, emblems, prestiges and such wiped out as well tbh than do it again. It'll be a cold day in hell before I buy and use Second Chance. It's the same with RC Cars too. Besides helping others with getting hardline pro, I've never bought it and never will. I can just about get my head around to helping a mate get his pro perks but that's pushing it truth be told.

i can bitch all i like about what ever i like in the megabitch thread Ade , as far as laststand goes i dont think it was about that, and if it was it was prob when i just got the game , now im just of the opinion if a perk is in the game i will use it, if it annoys people or if its "tabu" tuff diddys , its my game i paid good money for it ,
now im not back tracking here but i seldom use laststand , but it is in my one of my classes , and i do use it from time to time , i certainly dont use it all the time , infact ive only really started using it in this prestige (7th) i just dont see what the big hullabaloo is and why people get so aggressive when they get shot buy a last stander,my views on it have changed tbh , if im playing against a team who all have laststand on you can be dam sure i will put it on too, i guess ill be flamed and slagged off now for speaking my mind now , but i wont just follow the "crowd" and blank it from my classes as it does come in handy .also if im in a gunfight and the guy shoots me from laststand thats my fault for not following up and making sure the job is done not the other guys fault for having a perk on thats in the game.

IPAM wrote: »

I dont revive :rolleyes:

If you get shot in the head 3 times you shouldnt be "injured" and be able to kill me with 1 bullet to
the f**kin knee!! If you cant win the intial gun fight its your tough, die like a man computer animated guy!!

3 headshots and get injured , are you sure there actual headshots or just in your head .the intial gunfight is over when one of the two is dead , which is more often than not sounds like you if you get off 3 headshots and the guy is still alive or in last stand.

jimbling · 11-03-2011 11:15AM

almanu wrote: »

people moaning about laststand ,ak74u , and certain perks , get over yourselves its only a bloody game:mad:

almanu wrote: »

i can bitch all i like about what ever i like in the megabitch thread Ade

Does not compute

Oh, wait... are you just giving out about people bitching "in-game" as it were? If that's the case then I can somewhat agree... it can be annoying all right. But I must say, I do it all the time too. (although I don't have a mic, so I'm just shouting at a TV

)

gimli2112 · 11-03-2011 11:29AM

Have to say I'm with Almanu on this (even tho I support Liverpool and have a horrible feeling he's a manu supporter

)

Can never understand why people get so annoyed over perks / guns / killstreaks etc. If it's really that annoying play something else, no? If I want to camp in a corner with an AK74u Ghost Pro / Second Chance Rapid Fire RC car set up do I really deserve to be called a cnut? (Hmmm .... probably do) :P

Don't get me wrong I go mental too but if it's getting to the stage y'er not having fun why persevere?

Was getting maimed in a few games last weekend, got angry & decided to try out a noob tube on a Gallil - started have fun again.:rolleyes:

jimbling · 11-03-2011 11:34AM

By the way guys.... My poor Black Ops disk has been destroyed. Some gob****e in my house moved the xbox while the disk was spinning. There is now a perfect circle scratch which is causing a few problems.
The game still loads sometimes, but it crashes on certain maps. Hanoi and Launch.... which isn't too bad really as both ****e levels :pac:

Anyway, point is... I went back and played MW1 and MW2 the last few days. I was completely shocked.

MW1:
Excellent game. Great fun and bloody seamless. Honestly, hardly any lag at all. Graphics obviously look a bit old school, but still holds up. It has a sort of charm to it. I really enjoyed the few games I played.

MW2:
Oh god, I cant figure out how I ever liked this game. Quickscopers and Noobtubes EVERYWHERE. Horrible horrible games.
It also felt too fast. Now that's probably from playing so much Blops, but even still... I'm pretty sure I prefer the pace of blops.
Air-Support :mad:. Every game on MW2 is like the worst games of Blops. Constant flow of choppers / pavelows / AC130s. They ruin games.
I'm an advocate of no high killstreaks anyway, so I obviously hate this.

People give out about ghost or ak74u or galil or whatever.... basically point is... there is SOOOO much more to give out about in MW2. Blops really is an big move forward.

Obviously this is the mega-bitch thread, so I can't say only nice things. FCK MW3... I dont care. All they really have to do is

FIX THE GOD DAMN LAG AND LATENCY ISSUES

jimbling · 11-03-2011 11:47AM

gimli2112 wrote: »

Have to say I'm with Almanu on this (even tho I support Liverpool and have a horrible feeling he's a manu supporter )

Can never understand why people get so annoyed over perks / guns / killstreaks etc. If it's really that annoying play something else, no? If I want to camp in a corner with an AK74u Ghost Pro / Second Chance Rapid Fire RC car set up do I really deserve to be called a cnut? (Hmmm .... probably do) :P

Don't get me wrong I go mental too but if it's getting to the stage y'er not having fun why persevere? Was getting maimed in a few games last weekend, got angry & decided to try out a noob tube on a Gallil - started have fun again.:rolleyes:

But you see, that's not how the world works is it. Just because you don't like some aspects of something doesn't mean you want to rid the world of it altogether.
Bitching and moaning about certain features/gameplays/people etc is not equivalent to hating the game.

You know that saying "hate the game, not the player".... well, that's complete bull**** :cool:

Leeg17 · 11-03-2011 11:51AM

El LoCo Ade wrote: »

As for reviving Second Chance users, while I have revived one person(think it was a boardsie going for all pro perks)

I think that was me

Truth be told I didn't like using it, and had gotten the pro perk in 2 games. Unequipped it forever straight after.

I also took a cold shower and rocked back and forth in the corner for hours.

gimli2112 · 11-03-2011 12:28PM

jimbling wrote: »

But you see, that's not how the world works is it. Just because you don't like some aspects of something doesn't mean you want to rid the world of it altogether.
Bitching and moaning about certain features/gameplays/people etc is not equivalent to hating the game.

You know that saying "hate the game, not the player".... well, that's complete bull**** :cool:

fair point

I guess none of this stuff bothers me as much

jimbling · 11-03-2011 12:36PM

gimli2112 wrote: »

fair point

I guess none of this stuff bothers me as much

Ya, I agree.... none of that stuff even comes close to annoying me as much as the lag/latency issues, so I've pretty much given up getting frustrated by them.

In saying that, you will still hear me mutter "fcking last stand mothr fcker" under my breath when I get killed by one bullet of a pistol from 50ft after putting an entire clip into the biatch.

Dues Bellator · 11-03-2011 12:42PM

jimbling wrote: »

By the way guys.... My poor Black Ops disk has been destroyed. Some gob****e in my house moved the xbox while the disk was spinning. There is now a perfect circle scratch which is causing a few problems.
The game still loads sometimes, but it crashes on certain maps. Hanoi and Launch.... which isn't too bad really as both ****e levels :pac:

Anyway, point is... I went back and played MW1 and MW2 the last few days. I was completely shocked.

MW1:
Excellent game. Great fun and bloody seamless. Honestly, hardly any lag at all. Graphics obviously look a bit old school, but still holds up. It has a sort of charm to it. I really enjoyed the few games I played.

MW2:
Oh god, I cant figure out how I ever liked this game. Quickscopers and Noobtubes EVERYWHERE. Horrible horrible games.
It also felt too fast. Now that's probably from playing so much Blops, but even still... I'm pretty sure I prefer the pace of blops.
Air-Support :mad:. Every game on MW2 is like the worst games of Blops. Constant flow of choppers / pavelows / AC130s. They ruin games.
I'm an advocate of no high killstreaks anyway, so I obviously hate this.

People give out about ghost or ak74u or galil or whatever.... basically point is... there is SOOOO much more to give out about in MW2. Blops really is an big move forward.

Obviously this is the mega-bitch thread, so I can't say only nice things. FCK MW3... I dont care. All they really have to do is

FIX THE GOD DAMN LAG AND LATENCY ISSUES

did you not opt for that 3euro insurance thing that most shops do now , it is for the exact thing you discribe , every time i go and buy a game in gamestop the guy is always trying to flog it to me ,i do go for it on some games but the wife bought me black ops and dont really no if she got it for me on that , but then again there always

xtravision

Nuri Sahin · 11-03-2011 01:18PM

almanu wrote: »

i can bitch all i like about what ever i like in the megabitch thread Ade

Of course.

___

If it's like Jimbling said about in-game grievances towards certain things be it perks, guns, etc. being moaned at I can understand your annoyance I guess.

Personally, in BOPS I'll get more than miffed when killed by the ghost camper sort and rapid fire and AK74u which will drop you no matter what gun you use. Obviously circumstances come into play but you get the point. Being killed by people dependent on the same guns especially overpowered guns feels cheap and tedious.

I use what would be considered unpopular(and frankly crap compared to most) guns like can be seen in my vids for the most part, for simple fact they are unpopular and to show I can get good scores with them.

The game is far more bearable these days overall anyway but for the first 2 months, the game was basically COD: AK74u(and 2nd chance, again as said before that doesn't bother me really as I kill most of them and I know I'll never lower myself to that.

Nuri Sahin · 11-03-2011 01:26PM

Leeg17 wrote: »

I think that was me
Truth be told I didn't like using it, and had gotten the pro perk in 2 games. Unequipped it forever straight after.

I also took a cold shower and rocked back and forth in the corner for hours.

Asshole :pac:

jimbling wrote: »

By the way guys.... My poor Black Ops disk has been destroyed. Some gob****e in my house moved the xbox while the disk was spinning. There is now a perfect circle scratch which is causing a few problems.
The game still loads sometimes, but it crashes on certain maps. Hanoi and Launch.... which isn't too bad really as both ****e levels :pac:

Anyway, point is... I went back and played MW1 and MW2 the last few days. I was completely shocked.

MW1:
Excellent game. Great fun and bloody seamless. Honestly, hardly any lag at all. Graphics obviously look a bit old school, but still holds up. It has a sort of charm to it. I really enjoyed the few games I played.

MW2:
Oh god, I cant figure out how I ever liked this game. Quickscopers and Noobtubes EVERYWHERE. Horrible horrible games.
It also felt too fast. Now that's probably from playing so much Blops, but even still... I'm pretty sure I prefer the pace of blops.
Air-Support :mad:. Every game on MW2 is like the worst games of Blops. Constant flow of choppers / pavelows / AC130s. They ruin games.
I'm an advocate of no high killstreaks anyway, so I obviously hate this.

People give out about ghost or ak74u or galil or whatever.... basically point is... there is SOOOO much more to give out about in MW2. Blops really is an big move forward.

Obviously this is the mega-bitch thread, so I can't say only nice things. FCK MW3... I dont care. All they really have to do is

FIX THE GOD DAMN LAG AND LATENCY ISSUES

I agree with all of that except for the last part, BOPS seems to run fine on my connection :eek: I'm just very disappointed in Treyarch saying everything will be so balanced but as I've said so many times now - the game is about 1 perk, 1 gun and 1 attachment almost.

The supposed nerfing of the 74u is baffling When it comes down to it, if rapid fire was removed I wouldn't get so annoyed with it. I was so looking forward to using the 74u again after COD4(where it wasn't popular to the degree it is now), I didn't expect it to be so head and shoulders over the other guns let alone other SMG's.

In hindsight, I do wish stopping power was back and in the same tier perk as ghost. That would be the end of that.

2nd Chance shouldn't be in the game.

That's about the jist of it for me at least.

Dues Bellator · 11-03-2011 01:32PM

if you have a ak74 you should be able to just pick rapid fire without the grip.i think that would sort out a lot of players issues with it.

thefa · 11-03-2011 02:47PM

Admittedly I'll revive second chance people if they're close cos at the end of the day keeping them alive improves my teams chances. (Despite the fact that the user if probably oblivious to it being a team game and only interested in his kd and running crap like and rx-cd) I hate how cheap it is to get killed by a user of it though but what annoys me more is when youre going over to save a lad and he starts firing his pistol off towards you to get attention~as if its not bad enough that youre the cause of two of us being exposed in an area you just got shot in, youre attracting the enemy for a quick kill & assist.

jimbling · 11-03-2011 02:50PM

thefa wrote: »

Admittedly I'll revive second chance people if they're close cos at the end of the day keeping them alive improves my teams chances. (Despite the fact that the user if probably oblivious to it being a team game and only interested in his kd and running crap like and rx-cd) I hate how cheap it is to get killed by a user of it though but what annoys me more is when youre going over to save a lad and he starts firing his pistol off towards you to get attention~as if its not bad enough that youre the cause of two of us being exposed in an area you just got shot in, youre attracting the enemy for a quick kill & assist.

That is so fcking annoying. I have NEVER revived someone that started doing that.... never will either.

Shammy · 11-03-2011 02:53PM

almanu wrote: »

if you have a ak74 you should be able to just pick rapid fire without the grip.i think that would sort out a lot of players issues with it.

Ak-74 u , good gun , its the weapon i've used most , but never with rapid fire. I'm not sure why all the hate is there for it , like i said it is a good gun (not the best) is it because its used so often ?

Put a grip on the spectre and it blows the 74u out of the water , famas will piss on either of the above but theres no hate for that .......go figure.

gimli2112 · 11-03-2011 03:03PM

Shammy wrote: »

Ak-74 u , good gun , its the weapon i've used most , but never with rapid fire. I'm not sure why all the hate is there for it , like i said it is a good gun (not the best) is it because its used so often ?

Put a grip on the spectre and it blows the 74u out of the water , famas will piss on either of the above but theres no hate for that .......go figure.

I like it too. I think it's disliked for a number of reasons
- it's 40-20 damage most other smgs are 30-20
- put rapid fire on it and it takes away the advantage the weaker smgs have on it
- very good accuracy with hip fire (especially with grip)
- it's super accurate at range (for an smg)
- you can put a grenade launcher on it

it's just a good all rounder but I'd agree that it's not overpowered

jimbling · 11-03-2011 03:36PM

El LoCo Ade wrote: »

I agree with all of that except for the last part, BOPS seems to run fine on my connection :eek:

Well lucky lucky you then. I have an 8mb vodafone connection and the game is pretty unplayable half the time. The other half is still pretty crap.

All along I didn't really realise the difference. But I played on a good connection for a few games and I wish I never had. It just gave me a taste of what the game is like for the rest of ye feckers.
My God like Blops skills just dont have time to shine

El LoCo Ade wrote: »

I'm just very disappointed in Treyarch saying everything will be so balanced but as I've said so many times now - the game is about 1 perk, 1 gun and 1 attachment almost.

I cant really agree with you here. We've discussed it before, so I know I'm not going to change your mind, but I just dont see the problem you see. I don't seem to see that setup anywhere near as much as you, and even when I do it doesnt bother me.
But then, I don't really care that much about dying. It's rare enough I get very high killstreaks (I'm 99.999% sure this is due to my objective play style and poor connection.... really... I swear..... I'm not just crap :rolleyes:). I'm sure if I was getting killed by these guys one kill away from Dogs or something I would get much more annoyed.

dagdha · 11-03-2011 04:43PM

Hey guys I don't know if this might have been mentioned already so I apologise if it has.

My brother got me the first strike map pack for my birthday last month and I downloaded it but ever since then my Blop disc is acting up. When I go to play it it shows up as a DVD disc and nothing happens so I have to open the tray and close it again for it to work and then there is about 10 seconds or more of black screen before the intro graphics show up on the tv. On the Xbox dashboard before I downloaded the map pack there was always the picture for Blops where the option is to play the game but now its always blank. My xbox has'nt moved and it definitely has'nt moved when the xbox was on.

Is anybody else having issues like this?

Oh yeah where the hell is Mercenary Team Deathmatch gone??? That's the game type I would play the most and now its gone and I don't like playing normal team deathmatch because I always get thrown into a game where the opposition team is a party who pretty much rape all the randomers on my team.

Shammy · 11-03-2011 04:46PM

dagdha wrote: »

Hey guys I don't know if this might have been mentioned already so I apologise if it has.

My brother got me the first strike map pack for my birthday last month and I downloaded it but ever since then my Blop disc is acting up. When I go to play it it shows up as a DVD disc and nothing happens so I have to open the tray and close it again for it to work and then there is about 10 seconds or more of black screen before the intro graphics show up on the tv. On the Xbox dashboard before I downloaded the map pack there was always the picture for Blops where the option is to play the game but now its always blank. My xbox has'nt moved and it definitely has'nt moved when the xbox was on.

Is anybody else having issues like this?

Oh yeah where the hell is Mercenary Team Deathmatch gone??? That's the game type I would play the most and now its gone and I don't like playing normal team deathmatch because I always get thrown into a game where the opposition team is a party who pretty much rape all the randomers on my team.

Delete the map pack and re download it , see if that works .

Mec mosh pit is way better than m tdm imo.

Nuri Sahin · 11-03-2011 05:42PM

I've dragged myself into this god damn it

jimbling wrote: »

Well lucky lucky you then. I have an 8mb vodafone connection and the game is pretty unplayable half the time. The other half is still pretty crap.

All along I didn't really realise the difference. But I played on a good connection for a few games and I wish I never had. It just gave me a taste of what the game is like for the rest of ye feckers.
My God like Blops skills just dont have time to shine

I have a terrible connection, 3MB Eircome. I've posted a speed test a good few times in the past to illustrate how bad it is and a few of the lads here have commented on how they wouldn't be able to cope playing on my connection.

Latest speed test -

I was plagued with fairly consistent lag in MW2(unless playing with a handful of guys who were on UPC).

In Black Ops for whatever reason, even when nearly everyone was saying the game was unplayable due to lag before the very first patch, I still had a consistent 3 bar connection. It was actually in between the 1st and 2nd patch that lag issues arose for me for a little while. Funny enough, it's a similar situation with FIFA 10 and 11.

I cant really agree with you here. We've discussed it before, so I know I'm not going to change your mind, but I just dont see the problem you see. I don't seem to see that setup anywhere near as much as you, and even when I do it doesnt bother me.
But then, I don't really care that much about dying. It's rare enough I get very high killstreaks (I'm 99.999% sure this is due to my objective play style and poor connection.... really... I swear..... I'm not just crap :rolleyes:). I'm sure if I was getting killed by these guys one kill away from Dogs or something I would get much more annoyed.

We have indeed.

It's not the fact the game is littered with these players exactly(it is but I'll step away from that for a moment). It's the fact that I die from this crap :pac:(and without sounding big headed, I die less than most I play with or against) It's usually to Ghost and/or the 74u and rapid fire users I die from. It's a very powerful gun already without the need for rapid fire(I might make a poll on this actually to gauge opinion on best or most powerful gun). There is very little recoil as well on top of that. Gimili mentioned the benefits of the 74u. It has so many advantages compared to the other SMG's.

A little recoil and removing rapid fire, it's a fine gun then.

Re: ghost, it annoys me still but far less than before.

Magill · 11-03-2011 06:42PM

gimli2112 wrote: »

If I want to camp in a corner with an AK74u Ghost Pro / Second Chance Rapid Fire RC car set up do I really deserve to be called a cnut?

Yes... you do.

Shammy wrote: »

Ak-74 u , good gun , its the weapon i've used most , but never with rapid fire. I'm not sure why all the hate is there for it , like i said it is a good gun (not the best) is it because its used so often ?

Put a grip on the spectre and it blows the 74u out of the water , famas will piss on either of the above but theres no hate for that .......go figure.

Although i agree that the famas is the best gun in the game... the 74u is also much better than the rest of the SMG's.. the spectre isnt even close to the 74u shammy

My biggest problem with the 74u is that nothing really comes close to it in the SMG class, the mp5 is OK but i mean the lieks of the mac10 is weaker in every single catagory when compared to the 74u. Any of the guns with 20 bullet clip sizes are horrible, you'll barely ever get more than 1 kill per clip.

So although i don't think the 74u should be nerf'd much more, i do think nearly every other SMG needs buffed.

And it does get anoying being killed by the same 2 guns 80% of the time.

yimrsg · 11-03-2011 07:58PM

People acting cnutish in the game deserve being treated like a cnut.

If you dashboard, your're a cnut, you're kids are cnuts. If you hide in an corner with ghost, yup you're a cnut. Do it with an smg with rapid fire; I have news for you; you're a cnut. If you do it in a tactical game, you're a cnuting cnut. And so on.

Saying that just because something "is in the game" as EA say and therefore is allowed doesn't mean it's not acting the cnut.

Note: This isn't a personal attack on any poster here; merely me expressing my opinions based on the experiences I have had in the game. I've no doubt that I've acted cnutish at some points and would have the decency to admit it, you might call me a part time cnut but not a lifetime honourary member of the international high cnut council who was nominated and voted by other highly respected and renowned cnuts to the high cnut council.

Also apologies for the above spelling mistakes/sweariness. I stumbled upon this vid recently as way of explanation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lHTtF8HpCM

To elaborate on the above I think the 3rd perk choices are too diluted in Black Ops compared to Mw2 and this lends itself towards getting greater rewards for choosing camping as a tactic.

In Mw2 Sitrep Pro was a combination of Black Ops' Hacker Pro & Ninja Pro. Now in addition to the awfully unrealistic footsteps in Black Ops and sound in general, like the way you can hear a claymore being planted within 20 metres of you, or an enemy shouts "RELOADING" is completely idiotic. I've good hearing but I'm not f***ing Bravestarr with Ears of the Wolf.

So now I can either hear my enemys movements with Ninja Pro or see their equipment with Hacker Pro. Not both. This means that if I go see the motion sensor expecting to see a motion sensor and get a faceful of camper's gun. And then I return with Ninja Pro to extrace revenge I get killed by a claymore.

The other useful anti camper perk; Tactical Mask Pro is also a 3rd tier perk, marvellous. I have to dilute an anti-camper setup across 3 different classes to cover all the bases. The camper doesn't.

So I choose my Hacker Pro class to locate equipment and a possible camper, get killed by the camper, choose Ninja to surprise the camper and get killed by the camper's equipment until finally choosing tactical mask pro class to locate the camper and kill him.

Cost to me: up to 3 lives for one 1 kill; cost to camper 1 live:up to 3 kills. Simply put the campers will generally win out in 1-Vs-1 but the campers lose out against a coordinated team based strategy. It get's tricky when there are greater numbers for both sides. I've seen teams of campers and I'm sure others have too.

I think the reason for this is that treyarch probably didn't have enough ideas for perks and/or were reluctant to use Commando/Danger Close based ones and ended up diluting the stronger ones down to being nearly useless. It's entirely possible that the 3rd tier perks in Mw2 were overpowered but they favoured the aggressor, in Black Ops the camper is favoured.

Off the top of my head as an extra perk idea, I'd have included a medic based one (similar to COD3) where Second Chance Pro would take 10-15 seconds for a non-Medic teammate to revive a player with Medic Pro it would take 5-10 seconds and you can only kneel/stand reviving a player, any interruptions in treatment means the second chancer dies. It might not solve campers but it would mean that it focuses on greater teamwork and tactics rather than sitting on your own in a corner.

Shammy · 11-03-2011 08:50PM

Magill wrote: »

Although i agree that the famas is the best gun in the game... the 74u is also much better than the rest of the SMG's.. the spectre isnt even close to the 74u shammy

For me i put the spectre above the 74u in maps such as summit , firing range , stadium. 1 v 1 close range the spectre spits them out faster. For every other map an AR is the best bet.(you havent seen my vids with the spectre

)

Magill wrote: »

My biggest problem with the 74u is that nothing really comes close to it in the SMG class, the mp5 is OK but i mean the lieks of the mac10 is weaker in every single catagory when compared to the 74u. Any of the guns with 20 bullet clip sizes are horrible, you'll barely ever get more than 1 kill per clip.

So although i don't think the 74u should be nerf'd much more, i do think nearly every other SMG needs buffed.

And it does get anoying being killed by the same 2 guns 80% of the time.

I agree and thats probably why its hated so much as every man and their dog uses it

brianthebard · 11-03-2011 09:11PM

jimbling wrote: »

Ya, I agree.... none of that stuff even comes close to annoying me as much as the lag/latency issues, so I've pretty much given up getting frustrated by them.

In saying that, you will still hear me mutter "fcking last stand mothr fcker" under my breath when I get killed by one bullet of a pistol from 50ft after putting an entire clip into the biatch.

Is that a problem with the game rather than the perk though? I think everyone who's played blops online for an hour has had the situation where they empty a clip into someone and barely hit them (range not a factor here) and then at another time they are taken out with one shot by someone who may not even be using a high powered weapon.

Magill · 11-03-2011 09:28PM

Shammy wrote: »

For me i put the spectre above the 74u in maps such as summit , firing range , stadium. 1 v 1 close range the spectre spits them out faster. For every other map an AR is the best bet.(you havent seen my vids with the spectre )

Not me for or for most of the community, the times i have used the 74u its clear why its used so much. I've been using pretty much every gun over the last month or so trying to get decent clips for MM, so i think i've got good experience using most of the guns and they just arnt as good as the 74u... and thats with extended mags... apparently rapidfire/grip is the way to go with the 74u. Small maps its #1 - Medium maps its at least on par with the famas - and even on big maps its beastly.

I mean its your #1 most used weapon for a reason shammy

Like the famas is mine.

Also its not that i think its too good... i just think the rest of the guns are a bit... sh1t....

Dues Bellator · 12-03-2011 12:40AM

yimrsg wrote: »

People acting cnutish in the game deserve being treated like a cnut.

If you dashboard, your're a cnut, you're kids are cnuts. If you hide in an corner with ghost, yup you're a cnut. Do it with an smg with rapid fire; I have news for you; you're a cnut. If you do it in a tactical game, you're a cnuting cnut. And so on.

Saying that just because something "is in the game" as EA say and therefore is allowed doesn't mean it's not acting the cnut.

Note: This isn't a personal attack on any poster here; merely me expressing my opinions based on the experiences I have had in the game. I've no doubt that I've acted cnutish at some points and would have the decency to admit it, you might call me a part time cnut but not a lifetime honourary member of the international high cnut council who was nominated and voted by other highly respected and renowned cnuts to the high cnut council.

Also apologies for the above spelling mistakes/sweariness. I stumbled upon this vid recently as way of explanation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lHTtF8HpCM

To elaborate on the above I think the 3rd perk choices are too diluted in Black Ops compared to Mw2 and this lends itself towards getting greater rewards for choosing camping as a tactic.

In Mw2 Sitrep Pro was a combination of Black Ops' Hacker Pro & Ninja Pro. Now in addition to the awfully unrealistic footsteps in Black Ops and sound in general, like the way you can hear a claymore being planted within 20 metres of you, or an enemy shouts "RELOADING" is completely idiotic. I've good hearing but I'm not f***ing Bravestarr with Ears of the Wolf.

So now I can either hear my enemys movements with Ninja Pro or see their equipment with Hacker Pro. Not both. This means that if I go see the motion sensor expecting to see a motion sensor and get a faceful of camper's gun. And then I return with Ninja Pro to extrace revenge I get killed by a claymore.

The other useful anti camper perk; Tactical Mask Pro is also a 3rd tier perk, marvellous. I have to dilute an anti-camper setup across 3 different classes to cover all the bases. The camper doesn't.

So I choose my Hacker Pro class to locate equipment and a possible camper, get killed by the camper, choose Ninja to surprise the camper and get killed by the camper's equipment until finally choosing tactical mask pro class to locate the camper and kill him.

Cost to me: up to 3 lives for one 1 kill; cost to camper 1 live:up to 3 kills. Simply put the campers will generally win out in 1-Vs-1 but the campers lose out against a coordinated team based strategy. It get's tricky when there are greater numbers for both sides. I've seen teams of campers and I'm sure others have too.

I think the reason for this is that treyarch probably didn't have enough ideas for perks and/or were reluctant to use Commando/Danger Close based ones and ended up diluting the stronger ones down to being nearly useless. It's entirely possible that the 3rd tier perks in Mw2 were overpowered but they favoured the aggressor, in Black Ops the camper is favoured.

Off the top of my head as an extra perk idea, I'd have included a medic based one (similar to COD3) where Second Chance Pro would take 10-15 seconds for a non-Medic teammate to revive a player with Medic Pro it would take 5-10 seconds and you can only kneel/stand reviving a player, any interruptions in treatment means the second chancer dies. It might not solve campers but it would mean that it focuses on greater teamwork and tactics rather than sitting on your own in a corner.

i think you will find that life can be a CNUT , never mind cnutish cnuts in cnuting games:eek:

samurai kebab · 12-03-2011 01:38AM

Black ops servers can suck my nuts. I get host for some reason on my connection and can't do anything start the game 0-10 but stick with it as I don't want to ruin the game on anyone else. Then I get kicked for my troubles anyways wish I could get the god mode host others seem to get or better yet a cod with dedicatedc servers eugh. :mad: Thats my rant for the night over.

Shammy · 12-03-2011 01:44AM

Magill wrote: »

Not me for or for most of the community, the times i have used the 74u its clear why its used so much. I've been using pretty much every gun over the last month or so trying to get decent clips for MM, so i think i've got good experience using most of the guns and they just arnt as good as the 74u... and thats with extended mags... apparently rapidfire/grip is the way to go with the 74u. Small maps its #1 - Medium maps its at least on par with the famas - and even on big maps its beastly.

I mean its your #1 most used weapon for a reason shammy Like the famas is mine.

Also its not that i think its too good... i just think the rest of the guns are a bit... sh1t....

For my style of play and the game modes i play yup , in saying that i havent used it the last 2 prestiges , i find the famas with extended mags , spectre with gripe , even the ak47 with extented mags are serving me better these last 2 prestiges.... :eek:

I must try it with rapid fire , i dont think i could give up soh for warlord to also use the gripe

UsernameInUse · 12-03-2011 02:29AM

When is the new DLC coming out?

Isn't it every 3 months - which means, we should be hearing things at the end of the month. More zombie maps please - btw, Kowloon and Discovery are awesome.

Getting used to the aul sniper and crossbow too.

One thing about zombies though - it's hard to get any decent players. Usually, they're just some assholes who'll run up stairs with you thinking you're going to open every door along the way and then have f*ck all to open the random box while they have their fair share of the spoils - it just pisses me off that most don't want to use their points...don't they know that if we die, they're ****ed too? Greedy players everywhere in zombies.

The best part of zombies is when you get isolated from the team and go back about half an hour later and see them still alive, albeit cheating by using the glitches, but still - at least they know what they're doing.

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